2010 J. League Transfers & Off-the-field News - part II

If Finke (+ Urawa management) were actually smart, they'd be going for players like Aoyama, Chiyotanda... Hell, even Yuzo Kobayashi from Kashiwa would be a good addition (though probably hard to sign).
(I would have liked us to sign Kim Dong-Jin while he was a free agent instead of Sanou on loan, as well.)

With the ambitious management we have, if we're going to go for someone in a more attacking role, surely a player like Inui would be a no-brainer.
(Then again, this is Urawa we're talking about.)


Since we lost Tulio and Abe in the space of roughly eight months, surely we should be looking to cover those losses as our number one priority. It's obvious we don't have adequate cover in those areas, not to mention the players we DO have aren't getting any younger...

 

I think that Daigo Kobayashi is a player that many J-League clubs are looking at right now.

He's an excellent player who's playing off the bench at his club right now. I'm sure that he wouldn't mind coming back to Japan and I'm pretty sure that every single J1 club would love to have him.

He would be great for a team like Hiroshima or Shimizu.

 

Agreed, Daigo's excellent and I dare say he would start for most teams in his position (aside from, say, Nagoya with Magnum and a few others).

I hadn't even thought about him. I actually considered him a while ago as someone I wouldn't mind for Urawa, but I doubt he'd ever sign, considering the whole "having played for Omiya and in plenty of Saitama derbies" thing.

 

Marinos made an offer for Makino too.

http://www.nikkansports.com/soccer/news/p-sc-tp0-20101019-691810.html

 

Well, Urawa isn't really on shortage of young players (talents in the making), Yamada, Umesaki, Escudero, Ugaijin, Takasaki and many others..Many of them were plagued by injuries or has yet to mature, but the basis is there nonetheless. Urawa Reds lacks leaders in my opinion, confirmed players who can provide an immediate satisfaction and a swift return of investment. An ambitious/aggressive recruitment is necessary, Tulio was f'n right when he said he wasn't going to wait until the players grow and fulfill their potential because he wanted titles now, football careers are pretty short after all.

Having said this, Finke should have been sacked loong time ago, he isn't the right man for the team.

Nagoya had a solid group to start with, and a charismatic coach but the reason of their success this season is the smart and ambitious recruitment :
- Kennedy finally providing entire satisfaction after a rather average start.
- Tulio best defender of the league, a born-leader, huge contribution to the attack.
- Kanazaki : The enthusiasm of the youth, Stojkovic getting the best from his abilities.
- Danilson, not always in a good form but it was a nice addition to the squad nonetheless.
- Chiyotanda : A decent replacement for Yoshida.

 

Oh, I'm quite aware that we have plenty of good young players. I was talking more about picking up an unknown foreigner who turns out to be an excellent buy for the J. League, similar to Davi, Juninho, Emerson, et al.
... But in terms of getting a foreigner, I still think it should be a solid, experienced defender.

I don't think anyone's going to disagree with you regarding the termination of Finke's contract. I've been banging on about that nearly all season.

And as for the lack of leadership, that's one of the points I've been making when making a case for needing a new goalkeeper. Attacking's not so much a problem as having an organised defence, for Urawa. That's why I'm so focused on wanting that corrected.

 

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I'd be happy with Marcio. Honestly.

 

I know. Just wanted to make sure, hope I didn't jinx it.

Although he'd probably get a nice raise if he'd play for us.

 

Nope he's a regular starting member.

 

My bad, I saw that he came off the bench in his last match.

 

I think the best method for Urawa to gain lots of talented players is to move to Tokyo.

Tokyo is the biggest city in Japan and there is so much diversity there that Urawa's youth squads would almost guaranteed to be filled with talented young players. Just look at FC Tokyo and Tokyo Verdy, there's a reason why their youth squads are so good.

Of course this is not plausible. But in principle it would work.

 

Not really. It's not like every kid in youth teams are necessarily from that prefecture. Shinji Ono didn't come from Saitama, nor did Keita and Naoki Yamada. It all depends on the quality of scouting.

Anyway, we've already established that Urawa's youth system is just fine.

 

Yea, but in reality the strength of a team's youth squad is dependent on the population of the area in its jurisdiction.

The more people you have the bigger talent pool you have. Also since Tokyo is a global city you get a great deal of variety and mixing of genes. Which is why Verdy has so many kids that are half-Japanese. Scouting plays a role, but when you're presented with 10 pro level players per 100,000 people in a city with over 10 million then its not hard to find talent as compared to a place like Okinawa prefecture with a population of about 1 million.

 

... I think there's some miscommunication.

Saitama is right next to Tokyo. I doubt Urawa wouldn't already have people looking in that talent pool, just as Omiya, Chiba, Kashiwa, Yokohama, Kashima and Kawasaki would also be doing on a regular basis.


How did all of this become about Urawa's youtth system, anyway?

Looking to sign Marcio Richardes/Pedro Junior --> Complaining about needing to sign defenders instead/make use of foreign spots in other ways --> Urawa's youth system is good enough --> Urawa isn't located in the right place to have enugh good youth?

Massive sidetrack.

 

You also have to add that in bigger cities young people have much more things to do than play football. There are simply centers where football is popular and in some places not (more pressure is put on other sports for example). It's not like that - than China NT would be the greatest team of all... Scouting is another thing.

 

Of course, but the problem with China is that their GDP per Capita is extremely low.

Money plays a huge role in determining how well a country will perform. Which is why Africa will not win a World Cup before a country in Asia or even America.

They don't have the resources and their people do not make enough money.

 

Urawa is pretty much a suburb....it's like New Jersey. Urawa has had a pretty successful youth program, its along the lines of Verdy or FC tokyo. Their main problem is that Kashiwa has a good program and is able to recruit in the same area. The Musashino line area pretty much is divided between the two.

 

Have you heard about the bunch of U19 and U17 going to Hercules (espana) on trial ? Something about a deal signed with Ramzes, I don't know what it is.
http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/breves2010/20101020_130848_l-hercules-teste-dix-japonais.html

 

Oita Trinita sign DF Yu Yasukawa (22)

http://www.oita-trinita.co.jp/information.php?_mode=detail&id=5136

 

Nagoya has made an offer for Fujimoto. Marinos and other clubs are also interested in him :
http://www.sponichi.co.jp/soccer/news/2010/10/23/06.html
http://hochi.yomiuri.co.jp/soccer/jleague/news/20101022-OHT1T00300.htm

Nagoya also wants Makino, and managed to convince Kennedy to stay one more year. They also found a club for Burzano ... oh wait, no.

 

I found the Japanese article

http://www.sanspo.com/soccer/news/101022/scb1010220501000-n1.htm

Its 10 players aged 16-19 who are going to be on trial for 15 days.

Article from Hercules site

http://herculescf.com/noticias/448-el-hercules-firma-con-japon.html

I used google translate, but from what I can gather it sounds like it might be a yearly thing. I think that Ramzes might be some club in Japan, but I have no idea.

 

Gamba Osaka sign FW Shouta Kawanishi (21)

http://www.sponichi.co.jp/soccer/flash/KFullFlash20101023048.html

Another FW? Seriously.....

Someone must be leaving.



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