2009 USL attendance thread

Discussion in 'United Soccer Leagues' started by The Marquis, Apr 13, 2009.

  1. CFL-fan

    CFL-fan Member

    May 1, 2006
    Maryland
    na zdrowie
     
  2. brentgoulet

    brentgoulet Member+

    Oct 12, 2005
    PuertoPlata, DomRep
    Well, than it will be a little lower right now with ''only'' 5,190 fans for the Rhinos against Minnesota on wednesday
     
  3. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    13,845 in Portland tonight.
     
  4. Taly

    Taly Member

    Feb 25, 2001
    Big Al's Brewery, WA
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All the above.

    The Miami community will only check out international exhibitions.
     
  5. brentgoulet

    brentgoulet Member+

    Oct 12, 2005
    PuertoPlata, DomRep
    And that for a game against the Blues, I bet the Miami players were really impressed by that large crowd
     
  6. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    The Miami community, ad nauseum, is not a hardcore sports audience. Nothing will change that. They support team when they win and they like flash. It has always been this way. The way it is and little will change that.

    I I said way back my brother lived in Miami for seven years and worked high up for AAirlines. He got tix to everything for free and I was down there a couple of weeks a year. I went one Panthers game, and it was because they were playing the Rangers, adn I, like 75% of the crowd was rooting for the Rangers...and th ePanthers were a playoff team that year and the Rangers sucked. I turned down all other events.

    Why? I was in S Florida and there are way to many other things to do. Hardcore sports and Miami don't mix - better be a big winner or have real flash or foregt it. Yeah, I know. Old tired cliche...

    ...that just fits. It is what it is.
     
  7. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    USL1/A-League

    Code:
    % of season completed
    80.0%
    Year	Average	Median	%<2K	%>10k
    2002	2945	2151	41.8%	3.0%
    2003	3145	2218	46.9%	3.8%
    2004	3738	3061	32.0%	3.9%
    2005	4320	3437	19.4%	8.2%
    2006	4491	3194	17.9%	10.4%
    2007	4657	4148	20.1%	9.0%
    2008	5156	4531	10.6%	11.4%
    2009	4584	3687	22.0%	11.4%
    
    Final Numbers
    Year	Average	Median	%<2K	%>10k
    2002	3037	2185	40.1%	3.6%
    2003	3335	2463	42.9%	4.1%
    2004	3878	3107	30.9%	4.5%
    2005	4527	3554	19.6%	7.7%
    2006	4666	3370	18.5%	10.7%
    2007	4771	4274	19.6%	10.1%
    2008	5164	4510	10.9%	12.1%
    
    USL2/D3 Pro League

    Code:
    Final Numbers
    Year	Average	Median	%<1K	%>3k
    2005	1680	1457	21.4%	11.9%
    2006	1803	1703	14.1%	11.8%
    2007	1575	1423	28.1%	6.3%
    2008	1614	1629	26.0%	7.3%
    2009	1608	1525	32.1%	7.1%
    
    Code:
    USL2				Total	Team Avg	Playoffs
    Real Maryland Monarchs		 3649	 608
    Bermuda Hogges   		 7440	 744
    Pittsburgh Riverhounds   	11778	1178
    Crystal Palace Baltimore   	11807	1181
    Charlotte Eagles     		11322	1258		 760
    Harrisburg City Islanders   	18571	1857
    Western Mass Pioneers   	17130	1903
    Wilmington Hammerheads		24666	2467		2783
    Richmond Kickers   		28737	2874		1923
    
    With the way Portland is going, there's a shot at breaking last year's >10k pct. Last year, it was just Montreal that was pulling in those numbers. The winning streak seems to be making a difference.

    A very nice number in Wilmington for the week-night playoff game. Too bad they couldn't get the win.
     
  8. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's interesting about the winning streak, because it only started to get really good press at 23 now. I mean the Timbers get very good press as it is, for a soccer club in the U.S. but they only gave it extra at 23.

    The thing is I think both Portland and Montreal have a majority of their remaining games at home and Portland always finishes the season with a bang in terms of attendance. I think we did 15,880 and 13,000+ the last two seasons. The way it's looking this season we should get at least that again. Damn we're getting SPOILED up here.
     
  9. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Last year you had 4 games over 10k. With four home games to go, y'all have already had 3 over 10k. Final game last year was 13050. And you're right about that 15,880 two years ago. But it was the only game over 10k that year.

    Your lowest average (at least, as far as I can tell -- I don't have game by game numbers for 2002) was in 2004, and y'all have gone up every year since then, peaking at last year's 8567. Currently y'all are averaging 9315. It will be interesting to see if you hit 10k.

    I hope y'all aren't peaking too early. Gotta save a little of that general goodness for 2011;)
     
  10. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh, we're certainly not peaking early. The cool thing about Portland is there are tons of soccer fans.

    Downtown Portland during the last world cup final...

    [​IMG]

    What's happening here is that euro fans are actually buying in. It's kind of cool. I wouldn't be surprised if the same type of trend happens in 10 years in Austin. Similar thinking cities.
     
  11. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    11,683 in Portland last night. 12,000+ in Montreal the night before.
     
  12. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Things have been crazy here at work. So at this point I'm probably going to skip posting last weeks, and just post it on Tuesday with a two week update.
     
  13. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So far this week the attendance is RIDICULOUSLY high.

    Montreal 12,680
    Montreal 11,163
    Vancouver 5,081
    Portland 11,683
     
  14. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Austin's working hard to get a good turnout for our game Monday. Though I expect with everyone's attention turning to UT football, it will be a challenge to get anyone's attention. Plus, it being a holiday weekend, and a Monday, I don't have high expectations to continue that solid run.

    Oh, and a home game for Miami on Saturday will kill that streak dead.
     
  15. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd say if Austin can draw 4,000 that they have succeeded. Last nights Portland match was head to head against Oregon @ Boise State. Both ranked, first all top 25 game of the college football season I guess.
     
  16. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Holy crap. Wow. Well, that pretty much should shut up anyone that doubts MLS in Portland.

    ...wait. Is Oregon IN Portland? I don't know my college football.

    UT IS Austin, and Austin IS UT. (Pardon to any Tennessee reader that wanders by;)) And Texas is football. There's a reason for the Friday Night Lights thing.

    Granted, in this case, it's not a head-to-head game. If it were, the Aztex would lose that, and lose it badly.

    I personally would love to see a season-best, breaking 5,000, but with all the various factors (holiday weekend, Monday) would also be quite satisfied with breaking 4,000.
     
  17. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, Oregon is not IN Portland, neither is Oregon State. It's 2 hours away in Eugene while OSU is 1 1/2 hours away in Corvalis. So neither of the big schools are repped in Portland, so basically both of them are. It's a huge deal. Granted not as huge as UT, because well... we're talking about OREGON here. Texas IS American football. Oregon is not.
     
  18. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Updated through last night's game.

    USL1/A-League

    Code:
    % of season completed
    90.9%
    Year	Average	Median	%<2K	%>10k
    2002	2942	2158	41.0%	3.1%
    2003	3239	2411	44.2%	3.7%
    2004	3763	2965	31.5%	3.4%
    2005	4428	3527	20.3%	7.8%
    2006	4545	3243	19.0%	10.5%
    2007	4683	4215	20.3%	9.2%
    2008	5168	4531	11.3%	12.0%
    2009	4600	3486	22.0%	12.7%
    
    Final Numbers
    Year	Average	Median	%<2K	%>10k
    2002	3037	2185	40.1%	3.6%
    2003	3335	2463	42.9%	4.1%
    2004	3878	3107	30.9%	4.5%
    2005	4527	3554	19.6%	7.7%
    2006	4666	3370	18.5%	10.7%
    2007	4771	4274	19.6%	10.1%
    2008	5164	4510	10.9%	12.1%
    
    USL2/D3 Pro League

    Code:
    Final Numbers
    Year	Average	Median	%<1K	%>3k
    2005	1680	1457	21.4%	11.9%
    2006	1803	1703	14.1%	11.8%
    2007	1575	1423	28.1%	6.3%
    2008	1614	1629	26.0%	7.3%
    2009	1608	1525	32.1%	7.1%
    
    Code:
    USL2				Total	Team Avg	Playoffs
    Real Maryland Monarchs		 3649	 608
    Bermuda Hogges   		 7440	 744
    Pittsburgh Riverhounds   	11778	1178
    Crystal Palace Baltimore   	11807	1181
    Charlotte Eagles     		11322	1258		 760
    Harrisburg City Islanders   	18571	1857
    Western Mass Pioneers   	17130	1903
    Wilmington Hammerheads		24666	2467		2783
    Richmond Kickers   		28737	2874		1923, 2991
    
    Sadly, the Aztex final game pulled them under 3,000 average for the season. I'm also missing, at the moment, the attendance for the Miami - Austin game on Sept. 5. Considering that they only drew 460 to the game after that, I don't think they did much better. Miami are threatening to average under 1,000. The last team to draw under 1,000 a season was... Miami, in 2007.

    While the average is staying OK, thanks to Portland and Montreal, the median is tanking because of all the other teams. Cleveland at least improved toward the end of the season. But Charleston and Carolina have had 5 games in a row below 3,000.
     
  19. Krammerhead

    Krammerhead Guest

    Well Vancouver doesn't have a higher average as Vancouver's stadium only seats 5,200 people and are averaging about that many a game. Had they a stadium with twice that number I'm sure they'd average a lot more.
     
  20. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The rest of the season seems generally favorable for attendance...

    @ Portland x3
    @ Rochester x2
    @ Vancouver x2
    @ Montreal x1

    That's pretty much a guaranteed 8 of the remaining 13 matches will be over the current average and median. Of those 4-6 are likely to be far over.

    On the other side of the coin...

    @ Carolina x2
    @ Miami x1
    @ Charleston x1
    @ Minnesota x1

    We know Minnesota will do around 3500, Is this the Miami head shaving thing? If so who knows for that one? Likely around 1,000. Charleston and Carolina COULD do 4,000+, but are likely around 3,500. So I think the average will be going up. Probably quite a bit seeing how well Portland has been drawing, and how a draw in any one of those games wins the Timbers the regular season.
     
  21. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wasn't meaning to dump on Vancouver. I was being lazy in my comments. I didn't have time or feel like going into a team-by-team commentary.

    Vancouver is what it is, and is solid and reliable.
     
  22. moeron15

    moeron15 New Member

    Jun 18, 2009
    Iowa City
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm still missing that figure as well. Does anyone have word on the Austin/Miami score?
     
  23. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Try here for all scores.

    ...or was that a typo, and you meant attendance?
     
  24. moeron15

    moeron15 New Member

    Jun 18, 2009
    Iowa City
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sorry about that, it was a typo. I meant attendance.
     
  25. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I should get it sometime over the weekend.
     

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