From MLS Underground Below you can find the 2007 salary of all players in Major League Soccer. The MLS Players Union released the information Friday morning. All salaries are listed in alphabetical order by team. There are two salary numbers. The first number is the base salary, while the second number represents guaranteed compensation. http://mlsunderground.blogspot.com/2007/05/2007-mls-player-salaries.html TFC Below 2007 MLS Player Salaries Club Last Name First Name Pos Base Salary Guaranteed Compensation TORONTO FC TFC Boyens Andrew D 30,000.00 $ 47,500.00 TFC Braz Adam D 67,200.00 $ 74,950.00 TFC Brennan Jim D 150,000.00 $ 158,000.00 TFC Buddle Edson F 140,000.00 $ 150,000.00 TFC Canizalez Maycoll M 36,000.00 $ 40,000.00 TFC Dichio Daniel F 150,000.00 $ 158,125.00 TFC Djekanovic Srdjan GK 17,700.00 $ 17,700.00 TFC Edu Maurice M 50,000.00 $ 132,500.00 TFC Eskandarian Alecko F 155,000.00 $ 175,500.00 TFC Gala Gabriel M 12,900.00 $ 12,900.00 TFC Goldthwaite Kevin D 30,870.00 $ 30,870.00 TFC Guzman David M 12,900.00 $ 12,900.00 TFC Hemming Tyler M 17,700.00 $ 17,700.00 TFC Ibrahim Abdoulaye F 30,000.00 $ 31,250.00 TFC Lombardo Andrea F 17,700.00 $ 17,700.00 TFC Lumley Stephen D 12,900.00 $ 12,900.00 TFC Melo Joey M 12,900.00 $ 12,900.00 TFC Nagamura Paulo M 89,250.00 $ 89,250.00 TFC O'Brien Ronnie M 240,000.00 $ 258,750.00 TFC Pozniak Chris D 90,000.00 $ 95,000.00 TFC Reda Marcos D 100,000.00 $ 105,000.00 TFC Robinson Carl M 300,000.00 $ 315,000.00 TFC Sutton Greg GK 125,000.00 $ 132,562.50 TFC Welsh Andrew M 195,000.00 $ 204,750.00 TFC Wynne Marvell D 47,500.00 $ 150,000.00
those reserves should be making at least 35k at least! how can they survive in this city??? man, that is terrible. they should all be falling between 55 - 125k except for maybe robinson, esky, dichio, brennan and obrien. i hope these guys start making more quickly. no wonder asante left... why stay here for that kind of money???
Maybe MLSE should give them jobs working at BMO field during the games. That is horrible how much they are paying them.
Sorry for the repost, but I was finding the original data hard to read with no formatting. Code: TORONTO FC Last First Base Guaranteed Club Name Name Pos Salary Compensation ========================================================== TFC Boyens Andrew D 30,000.00 47,500.00 TFC Braz Adam D 67,200.00 74,950.00 TFC Brennan Jim D 150,000.00 158,000.00 TFC Buddle Edson F 140,000.00 150,000.00 TFC Canizalez Maycoll M 36,000.00 40,000.00 TFC Dichio Daniel F 150,000.00 158,125.00 TFC Djekanovic Srdjan GK 17,700.00 17,700.00 TFC Edu Maurice M 50,000.00 132,500.00 TFC Eskandarian Alecko F 155,000.00 175,500.00 TFC Gala Gabriel M 12,900.00 12,900.00 TFC Goldthwaite Kevin D 30,870.00 30,870.00 TFC Guzman David M 12,900.00 12,900.00 TFC Hemming Tyler M 17,700.00 17,700.00 TFC Ibrahim Abdoulaye F 30,000.00 31,250.00 TFC Lombardo Andrea F 17,700.00 17,700.00 TFC Lumley Stephen D 12,900.00 12,900.00 TFC Melo Joey M 12,900.00 12,900.00 TFC Nagamura Paulo M 89,250.00 89,250.00 TFC O'Brien Ronnie M 240,000.00 258,750.00 TFC Pozniak Chris D 90,000.00 95,000.00 TFC Reda Marcos D 100,000.00 105,000.00 TFC Robinson Carl M 300,000.00 315,000.00 TFC Sutton Greg GK 125,000.00 132,562.50 TFC Welsh Andrew M 195,000.00 204,750.00 TFC Wynne Marvell D 47,500.00 150,000.00
Keep in mind that all of the leagues reserve players are making those amounts, not just TFC's. A lot of TFC's reserve players are teenagers living at home, so its' not so bad (thought obviously not great). Though Guzman & Djekanovic are a bit older than that.
None of this makes any sense to me, every player on our list is either overpaid or underpaid. Except for maybe Wynne. Robinson making almost as much as twellman, are you kidding me? I was never one to throw the fire Mo responses but 3 or 4 more losses and bad games by players like Mr.205K(WELSH) and MLSE might have to take a serious look at managment.
Here we go. The great debate begins. This is one that has no right answers, and the debaters usually have zero experience or expertise in the field. Opinions are like a$sholes, everybody has one.
those reserves are actually making less than minimum wage. I really hope that they are just kids and being in TFC is like a summer job.
Yeah...but when people presume to know what they're talking about when it comes to how to spend an MLS salary...this topic takes the cake of stupidity........and in the end who cares? I bought a season ticket with the only expectation being having fun, and supporting the team. In the end, I'll leave the running of the team to those that are best qualified. I'm supportive regardless.
Because people just like to chat. When they start writing angry crackpot letters to the team then we can worry, but this is just a chat board for people to chat because people like to air their opinions.
I could think of other ways to have fun without spending this much money on season tickets. Everyone has the right to an opinion on a posted topic, that's the whole point of a forum. If everything is hunky dory with you about how TFC runs its operations then fine but don't be resorting to insults when others have a complaint, or an opinion on the matter. I support the team with my hard earned dollars and if I feel like commenting on an issue then that's my prerogative.
Buddy, those contracts are going to be harder to get rid of then Bryan McCabes'. I wonder how long the deals are for each of them, cuz i don't want to be stuck with these guys for anymore than the end of this year. See, the problem with Mo is he goes looking for players in the wrong place. Why would you go look to England when you know full well you're constrained by a salary cap? There is so much better value everywhere else in the world than the most over priced league in the world.
1. As others have pointed out, the developmental salaries are par for the rest of the league. It's shameful but that's where it is. That is why some potential talent choses to go to the USL or skip a pro soccer career. 2. As for why talk about the salaries? That's a really easy answer (other than people wanting to say something): they directly and absolutely impact your team. Every MLS team has a $2.1 million salary cap. I didn't sit down and do the math so I don't know where you stand. But clearly TFC could afford to upgrade the team talent in some areas. And you still have a DP slot available. And to use that slot requires that you have $400K available on the cap (and thus, no more than $1,700k in existing commitments) or you'll have to cut players to create cap room (and you can't do it by cutting developmental players b/c their salaries are exempt from the cap). Expansion teams are often bad. The players need to learn how to play as a team and the organization goes through growing pains. But ideally the team (b/c it should be full of young players or guys who haven't had much of a chance to prove themselves and thus earn a high salary) should generally be low on the salary cap. If you get capped out early, than the only way to give really good pay increases if a Boyens turns out to have a great rookie season or keep another player is good enough to attract foregn attention is to have the cap room to afford to pay for those increases.
Excel actually comes in handy sometimes ... $2,130,520 is the base, $2,453,707.50 is the guaranteed. Shipping Nagamura off drops the base under $2.1M but the guaranteed amount is still over - I hope this doesn't mean we still need to drop more players. I agree with a previous statement - some seem well underpaid - I didn't realize some are getting $12,900 (although let's face it, most of us would do this for the opportunity), and some are overpaid in comparison (Welsh and Robinson come to mind).
From Simon Samano: http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/05/07/sports/samano/5607184947.txt Major League Soccer's players voted unanimously last week to make their salaries public last week in hopes of embarrassing the league into fixing substantial disparities. The most startling fact: 26 percent of MLS players (93 of 359) make less or barely more than a minimum-wage worker in California could earn in a year. Paid $7.50 an hour for 40 hours a week, a California minimum-wage employee would make roughly $15,600 in a year. That's more than the 57 MLS players who earn the league minimum of $12,900 for development rosters and only slightly less than the 36 players who earn $17,700. The league minimum for players on senior rosters is $30,000, hardly adequate to live comfortably in MLS cities like Los Angeles, New York, Chicago and Washington. "It's a big, big problem," Bob Foose, executive director of the players' union, told the Los Angeles Times. "A third of the league has to ask their parents for money to pay rent." There could a bright side, though. With television contracts and jersey sponsorships strengthening the league's financial picture, MLS should ---- and better ---- be able to correct matters.
Boo Hoo. Let's take this into account, with respect to the Developmental Players: 1. They only "work" ~4 hours per day, assuming a ~90 minute practice + ~1 hour fitness work + ~1 hour film sessions + ~30 min or so of rehab/treatment work, IF necessary. 2. [This isn't as big a thing in Canada, but] Free medical is a big deal in the US. The equivalent for monthly premiums, copays, and co-insurance costs for the average US worker is nearly enough to double the compensation for a Developmental player. And again, a MLS player is really only "working" part-time. 3. These Developmental Players are being given a chance to pursue a dream: To play a game we all love, and TRY to "make it" to a Senior Roster position, or to Europe. IF they do, there are increases that, by a percentage basis, are greater than the average US or Canadian worker. And IF they remain on the Devlopmental Roster, their CBA-mandated raises are a minimum 5% year-over-year. [Comparably, the average US worker's annual adjustment is around 2.6%.] Given the freedom of time, a Developmental Player has more than enough time to use the other Four Hours/work day to improve his finances. He can coach youth, he can run camps. He can work in a retail capacity. He can work as a Mortgage Loan Originator. He can pursue further schooling. This really isn't too unlike minor league baseball players, IMO. Moreover, the player's "work year" does not comprise of 52 weeks @ 4 hours/work day. It is more like 9 1/2 months @ 4 hours/day, and then 2 1/2 months either free, or to workout for a few hours/day, or to do something else with their time. Compare that to the 8 hour/work day for the average minimum wage worker. IMO, pity used on the Developmental Player is misplaced. Far better to pity the person who is actually making minimum wage @ a 8 hour workday for 52 weeks. Pity the guy who is trying to make it work by working at Wal Mart or Target or McDonald's or the like. They neither have the freedom of time, nor the ability to chase a dream, nor the free medical, nor the locked-in annual increases that MLS Developmental Players enjoy.