2006 World Cup: Quarter-Finals - Portugal x England [R]

Somebody still has to tell me what was Ronaldo's mighty plan to get Rooney sent off. Did he get Carvalho under Rooney and forced him to stomp on his balls? Or did he asked Rooney to push him like a madman? Or maybe Ronaldo asked the referee gently to give a red card?

The ref gave red card to avoid a Holland vs Portugal esque-situation. Rooney was a loose cannon.

 

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LMAO....seeing as most of Canada likes the EPL and ENG, I bet you got a lot of nasty looks. I respect your insane courage.

 

If the ref wanted to avoid that sort of situation then surely he would have whistled for the fouls on Rooney by Carvalho and Petit (I think it was him). Ref does that, Rooney doesn't stamp Carvalho and the game continues with 11 v 11.

And why was Rooney a "loose cannon"? Before the stamp he'd done nothing to deserve such a title.

 

Maybe in this match, but you must admit that he is a bit of a hothead and his mouth has gotten him booted when he was needed by MUFC.

 

Not really - Rooney's made great strides on managing his temper over the past 12 months for Man U. Sure he blows now and again but when a player runs on emotion as much as Rooney does then he's going to cross the line now and again - Vieira did it for Arsenal in the same way Keane did it for Man U.

Considering the pressure the kid was under in the build up to the World Cup and then having that c0ck Sven play him in a position that was guaranteed to wind him up and frustrate him the end result was hardly a surprise. He's only 20...

 

I agree that his temper has improved but his reputation for losing it is still there and it cost him. I personally don't think Rooney was trying to stomp on Carvalho's privates but he was trying to use his foot to push/stomp him away and he just happened to get him there. If he controlled himself in that moment, the ref would have rewarded him a free kick because he was being fouled.

 

I know you love MUFC and you make many valid points about emotional players, but this is the WORLD CUP! Someone on ENG should have had a leash on the young lad if he is 20 and can't control himself. I think Rooney believes that he is THAT great already.

 

Don't agree - there was no way the ref could have been playing advantage, he was being sandwiched by two players and Carvalho was pulling him down. If the ref was going to blow for a foul he'd have done it well before Rooney stamped.

I agree Rooney still has a reputation - it's just a shame he didn't go down when he first got fouled then all this wouldn't have happened and we'd have been able to see the teams play on an equal footing.

 

So what if it's the World Cup - players should just box up their emotions? Which part of my earlier post did you not understand - he can control himself and is improving all the time. What difference does a players opinion of how good they are make to their game? (assuming of course that you are right that Rooney has that opinion of himself which is contrary to the clear inference in all his interviews)

 

Ronaldo claims no bad blood between him and Rooney and that he has no intentions of leaving Utd:

http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=portugalronaldo&prov=st&type=lgns

 

It won't matter. The fans hate him and he'll have to go. The question is where? The only clubs that can spend that kind of money are Man UTD themselves, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Madrid, Barcelona, AC Milan, and Juventus.

He can't go to another English club and Juventus are screwed. That leaves only 3 teams with that kind of cash and they may not even want him. United will get low offers because Ronaldo ran up to the ref and let Rooney gently shove him

 

they do this all the time, ping-pong the 'i wanna leave, help, save me!' and the 'no, i love Man U, i wanna marry it'.

he's better off in spain. the english have never regarded him as one of their own and he's always second to the english stars. now they have a reason to hate him and his time is, thusly, over.

....and its about time.

 

Toronto FC

 

I forgot Dynamo Moscow

 

Corrected.

You really have no idea why he winked or even who he was winking at. Maybe he was winking at Terry...we all know Terry would love to take Ronaldo out. We have seen it before in the ManU Chelsea matches.

Maybe he was winking at his friends or girlfriend.

To say that they planned on getting Rooney kicked out is f-ing ridiculous. There is no way that the Portugal team could have planned making Rooney stomp on Carvalhos nuts. The little shrek bitch did that himself. Ronaldo did what every other person in the world would have done had the same happened to their team: Appeal to the ref...who had yet to call a foul or card anybody. Even the English were doing the exact same thing at the time, trying to get Carvalho and Petit carded.

 

...not according to the video in the multi-media thread. the BBC sports people said, "we english never run up to the ref like that"

they also said, "rooney was being tenacious, he was trying his best"

 

I can't remember which of the ex-England players said it, but it was hilarious when he asked, "Are we too honest?"

 

lol, it was shearer.

 

its priceless. But I can understand thier grief, just not thier common-sense.

 

...wow. that post was intellectual and philosophical.

you get a rep!

 

Well said, often the English fans complain about not enough English players on a side...well look at the clubs in the Prem with all UK players, fighting it out for relegation. You can't demand your league to be the best and have the best talent and ONLY have English players.

 

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but do English people turn up their nose and leave the stadium when Michael Owen, for example, dives? At the last WC, Michael Owen dove Against ARG to win a penalty. Was Michael Owen taken to task? Was there a day of mourning? Or was it forgotten in the hysteria of Beckham's PK and vengeance against the hated Argies?


This whole argument devolves into a "Yeah, we do it, but not as much as you guys do". A weak defense if I ever heard one.

Another is the "The foreigners have influenced us. They made us divers!"
Another good one.

 

Do you mean cheat his way into drawing a foul by falling down? How dare you even think of bringing the cheating aspect into the English game!

 

yeah kind of like the way he "cheated" vs. Arsenal to finish thier unbeaten record... However when Rooney cheats he's a hero, when portuguese cheat they're dispicable....