2006 Division II Rankings Ratings Top Teams Thread [R]

Discussion in 'Women's College' started by Tsunami, Aug 23, 2006.

  1. Tsunami

    Tsunami Member

    Oct 16, 2000
    SD, CA
    Club:
    Arsenal LFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    September 26th Rankings

    The only difference in the top 10 is that Tusculum sneaked into 10th place ahead of West Texas A&M. UCSD fell to 13th, 1 spot behind West Florida, who has a worse record (5-1-2) against inferior competition. No other CCAA teams are in the top 25, and only 1 is listed in the 'also receiving votes' category.

    http://www.nscaa.com/seniorRes.php?it=202
     
  2. Tsunami

    Tsunami Member

    Oct 16, 2000
    SD, CA
    Club:
    Arsenal LFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    October 3rd rankings

    Top Ten this week:

    UNO
    W Chester
    Tampa
    Tusculum
    St Rose
    Quincy
    UCSD
    Billings
    Metro
    W Fla

    Although I'm glad to see UCSD (9-1-2) at 7th, I wouldn't have ranked them above Metro State (12-1-0).

    I'm glad to see Tusculum up there, I've liked them ever since they traveled out to play UCSD 4 years ago.

    How does W Fla (6-2-2) jump from unranked to the 10th spot?

    http://www.nscaa.com/seniorRes.php?it=226
     
  3. Tsunami

    Tsunami Member

    Oct 16, 2000
    SD, CA
    Club:
    Arsenal LFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    September 30th A-J ratings

    Albyn-Jones ratings finally updated. Here is the top 30. There is still no 2006 Conference Strength ratings yet, so I've up behind each team the average rating for their opponents so far.

    1735 Metro St 938
    1600 UNO 1039
    1571 UCSD 1255
    1533 GVSU 942
    1489 Seattle Pac 1050
    1460 St Rose 1044
    1448 W Chester 959
    1408 Carson-N 852
    1397 Tampa 1180
    1390 Quincy 1123
    1388 FPU 1109
    1361 Seattle 1033
    1358 Chico St 1255
    1352 NKU 1089
    1319 Mercyhurst 1107
    1318 St Edwards 1079
    1313 Merrimack 906
    1312 W Tex A&M 1016
    1308 W Fla 1004
    1307 Montana St 967
    1303 Cen Okla 997
    1298 Columbus St 993
    1284 Tusculum 999
    1281 CSU LA 1227
    1261 Washburn 875
    1255 CSU DH 1248
    1248 Pomona 1033
    1238 W Wash 992
    1237 Regis 1028
    1226 St Leo 795
     
  4. tobayernfan

    tobayernfan New Member

    Mar 11, 2005
    Still can't figure out how they rank. I guess the big change, from UCSD's perspective, was that Seattle Pac. lost to seattle. As SPU now lost to two teams that UCSD beat they fell off alot. Seems a bit harsh to me though.(especially considering CHico beat UCSD, tied Seattle and lost to SPU, I think)

    Also Chico is better than they get credit for. I think they could be in the top 25.

    Just seemed like a huge amount of movement in the polls. I had asked earlier if the polls had any influence on who goes to the play offs, and was told no. My daughters coach said that the top 4 ranked teams in the far west go to NCAA. So I guess it does matter?
     
  5. Tsunami

    Tsunami Member

    Oct 16, 2000
    SD, CA
    Club:
    Arsenal LFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From my limited experience, it is not the top 4 teams. The rankings do not occur until after conferences have their playoffs. The CCAA only gets at the most 2 teams going to the NCAAs (the 2 who were in the conference championship game), regardless of how many really should be going.

    * * *
    I guess that Tampa has been playing better teams than I thought, judging from their A-J ratings and the average rating of their opponents.
     
  6. tobayernfan

    tobayernfan New Member

    Mar 11, 2005
    Not to be a pain....but last year 3 teams from the CCAA went to the NCAA's, UCSD, CSDH and CHice, as well as SPU. From what I gather they were the top 4 teams in the far west region. So I think that it does matter? Anyway, win the CCAA and I'm pretty sure you get to go.
     
  7. EastCoastBias

    EastCoastBias New Member

    Sep 7, 2006
    The first region rankings from the NCAA have been posted at the following link:

    http://www.ncaasports.com/soccer/womens/polls/divii

    Again, the top four teams in each region make the postseason. This is your best gauge of who's on track to getting in.. the coaches poll, third-party power rankings et al are nice to have, but they have no bearing whatsoever on who gets to the NCAAs.
     
  8. tobayernfan

    tobayernfan New Member

    Mar 11, 2005
    Thanks for the info.
     
  9. Tsunami

    Tsunami Member

    Oct 16, 2000
    SD, CA
    Club:
    Arsenal LFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Top 25 'upsets' for 10/4-10/8

    Results are from the NSCAA scoreboard. Two teams ranked in the top 10 lost twice during this period.

    04 October
    #6 Quincy lost 1-2 to unranked SIU-Edwardsville

    06 October
    #8 Montana State wiped out by #9 Metro State 0-5
    #12 Mercyhurst lost 0-1 to unranked W. Virginia Wesleyan

    07 October
    #14 Adelphi lost 0-3 to unranked Bridgeport

    08 October
    #6 Quincy defeated 0-1 by unranked Indianapolis
    #8 Montana State edged 0-1 by unranked Regis
     
  10. tobayernfan

    tobayernfan New Member

    Mar 11, 2005
    Seattle Pacific dropped a second game, to Western Washington and Seattle tied against (I think) Central Washington. Maybe a chance for Chico to move up or at least into the top 25 (with away wins at Bakersfield and Cal State LA). Western Washington may move up a little as well. Sure looks like the top four out of CCAA will be Chico, UCSD, Sonoma and CSDH. Hope the playoffs are down south this year!
     
  11. Tsunami

    Tsunami Member

    Oct 16, 2000
    SD, CA
    Club:
    Arsenal LFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NCSAA 10/10 Rankings

    This week's rankings are out. Top 10 are:

    UNO 13-0-0
    W Chester 13-0-0
    Tampa 11-1-0
    Tusculum 8-0-2
    UCSD 12-1-2
    St Rose 11-1-1
    Metro 14-1-0
    GVSU 12-1-0
    W Fla 8-2-2
    Columbus St 13-1-0

    Seattle Pacific didn't receive any votes (only 2 teams not in the top 25 did get votes). Chico State is listed at #24.

    http://nscaa.com/seniorRes.php?it=240
     
  12. Tsunami

    Tsunami Member

    Oct 16, 2000
    SD, CA
    Club:
    Arsenal LFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    10/11 NCAA Regional Rankings

    When I checked last Thursday they weren't up, but they are now. Here are the current top 4 in each region:

    Central: UNO, Washburn, Truman, Cen MO St
    Great Lakes: Quincy, Mercyhurst, GVSU, N. Mich
    Midwest: Metro, St Edwards, W Tex A&M, Mont-Billings
    New England: St Rose, FPU, Merrimack, Mass-Lowell
    Northeast: W Chester, IAPA, SPU, Bridgeport
    South: Tampa, W Fla, Rollins, St Leo
    Northeast: Columbus St, Tusculum, Carson-Newman, Armstrong
    Far West: UCSD, Seattle, Seattle Pac, CSU Chico
     
  13. Tsunami

    Tsunami Member

    Oct 16, 2000
    SD, CA
    Club:
    Arsenal LFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    10/11 Albyn-Jones ratings

    1625 Metro
    1606 UNO
    1498 UCSD
    1486 W Chester
    1448 GVSU
    1446 FPU
    1441 Tampa
    1392 CSU Chico
    1382 Carson-N
    1377 Seattle Pac
    1372 Seattle
    1371 St Rose
    1369 St Edwards
    1344 Cen Okla
    1320 Columbus St
    1305 Tusculum
    1304 Merrimack
    1302 Quincy
    1294 Mercyhurst
    1289 W Fla
    1288 NKU
    1286 BYU Hawaii
    1280 Montana St
    1273 W Tes A&M
    1257 Wisc-Parkside
    1251 CSU DH

    So right now the 4 Far West region would have the 3rd, 8th, 10th, and 11th rated teams facing each other.
     
  14. Tsunami

    Tsunami Member

    Oct 16, 2000
    SD, CA
    Club:
    Arsenal LFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    this weeks draws & losses

    Top 25 teams that either drew with or lost to an opponent, according to the NSCAA scoreboard:

    13 Oct
    Tampa lost 0-1 to Barry
    Quincy lost 0-3 to 8th-ranked GVSU

    14 Oct
    Truman St lost 0-1 to SW Baptist
    Tusculum drew 0-0 with Catawba

    15 Oct
    Truman St lost 0-1 to Missouri Southern
    GVSU tied 0-0 with SIU Edwardsville

    16 Oct
    none listed
     
  15. Tsunami

    Tsunami Member

    Oct 16, 2000
    SD, CA
    Club:
    Arsenal LFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    10/17 Rankings

    The 17 Oct rankings are out, here is the top 10:

    UNO
    W Chester
    UCSD
    Tusculum
    Metro St
    St Rose
    GVSU
    Tampa
    W Fla
    Seattle

    I've often wondered how many voters there are - how is it that last week there were only 2 teams not in the top 25 listed as receiving votes, and this week only 5? With none of them being Seattle Pacific, who is 13-3-0?

    Last week Tusculum was listed as having a record of 9-0-2 and this week it is 10-0-0 (they have 3 ties now). Chico State, this week at 21, is listed as not receiving votes last week when it was actually ranked 24th.

    Columbus State (10th last week) and Truman State (15th) dropped out of the rankings all together. Tampa dropped 5 spots.

    http://www.nscaa.com/seniorRes.php?it=254
     
  16. EastCoastBias

    EastCoastBias New Member

    Sep 7, 2006
    The records thing is a flaw in the NSCAA's website.

    Coaches put in their results each week, and the web site tabulates results based on what coaches input. But as you can see, there are inconsistencies. If you look at the region rankings, for example, it'll list a match that happened that week under one team's results but not the other.

    I don't know who the programmer is, but it's an issue, especially when the coaches' association is looking for legitimacy in what is increasingly becoming an illegitimate poll to the casual observer.
     
  17. house18

    house18 Member

    Jun 23, 2003
    St. Louis, MO
    I can't believe how flawed the rankings are this season. The GLVC only has one team in the top 25. The top five teams have four losses or less (only three of those 19 losses are non-conference games) and the next two teams only have 5 and 6 losses. There is one 10 game winner, two 11 game winners, two 12 game winners, a 13 game winner and a 15 game winner. Anyone who has seen the top teams in the GLVC knows that there should be more then one team in the top 25.
     
  18. Tsunami

    Tsunami Member

    Oct 16, 2000
    SD, CA
    Club:
    Arsenal LFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Glvc

    http://www.glvcsports.com/sport.asp?path=wsoc

    Even though the GLVC was only the 8th rated conference at the end of last year, they certainly seem to have a lot of worthy teams. I'm used to seeing NKU, Edwardsville & Parkside up there, but hadn't noticed Bellarmine (then, I usually just check the top 25 scores...)
     
  19. Tsunami

    Tsunami Member

    Oct 16, 2000
    SD, CA
    Club:
    Arsenal LFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thur/Fri/Sat losses & ties

    18 October
    #23 Catawba falls 1-2 to unranked Pfeiffer
    http://www.goindiansgo.com/article.php?sid=2150&mode=nested&order=0&PHPSESSID=5337a37116e4389723b8fb1218afa3a6

    #13 St Edwards and #25 New Haven both were tied by unranked opponents

    19 October
    #4 Tusculum suffered a 1-2 OT loss to Wingate
    http://www.tusculum.edu/athletics/soccer_women/releases/WS_10-19-06_WU.htm

    20 October
    #23 Merrimack lost 1-2 to Bryant
    http://www.merrimackathletics.com/News/wsoc/2006/10/20/10202006wsocbry.asp?path=wsoc

    21 October
    Catawba loses a 2nd game, this one to Presbyterian
    http://www.goindiansgo.com/article.php?sid=2158&mode=nested&order=0&PHPSESSID=639b86090449dad50a1571ce3c291a9c

    Note there were some games at the NSCAA site during this period with unreported scores...
     
  20. Tsunami

    Tsunami Member

    Oct 16, 2000
    SD, CA
    Club:
    Arsenal LFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  21. Tsunami

    Tsunami Member

    Oct 16, 2000
    SD, CA
    Club:
    Arsenal LFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    10/24 NSCAA Rankings

    http://www.nscaa.com/seniorRes.php?it=268

    Top 10 are:
    UNO
    W Chester
    UCSD
    Metro
    St Rose
    GVSU
    Carson-N
    Tampa
    Seattle
    FPU

    Tusculum dropped down from 4th to 12th
    Chico State, even though they didn't lose, dropped out all together
    Carson-Newman jumped up 5 spots
    Seattle Pacific made it onto the list in the 20th spot
     
  22. Tsunami

    Tsunami Member

    Oct 16, 2000
    SD, CA
    Club:
    Arsenal LFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Albyn-Jones updated through 10/23

    1646 Metro
    1502 UNO
    1493 W Chester
    1469 FPU
    1465 GVSU
    1456 UCSD
    1448 Tampa
    1422 St Rose
    1403 Cen Okla
    1396 Seattle
    1396 Seattle Pac
    1387 Carson-N
    1384 St Edwards
    1373 Chico St
    1320 W Fla
    1303 NKU
    1302 Quincy
    1301 W Tex A&M
    1282 S Ill
    1273 St Leo
    1271 Tusculum
    1264 Mercyhurst
    1263 Merrimack
    1260 W Wash
    1260 Humboldt St
    1248 CSU DH
    1246 N Mich
    1234 Indianapolis

    Note - I just checked, and the NCAA selection committee regional rankings are still those of the 11th...
     
  23. house18

    house18 Member

    Jun 23, 2003
    St. Louis, MO
    The next time the rankings come out is next week.
     
  24. EastCoastBias

    EastCoastBias New Member

    Sep 7, 2006
  25. house18

    house18 Member

    Jun 23, 2003
    St. Louis, MO
    Totally spaced on the date, thanks! These rankings blow my mind, NMU has only played two teams in these rankings and lost 5-1 and 4-1, while a team like Bellarmine has played four going 2-2, with a 2-1 and a 2-1(ot to #2 Quincy) loss. The rankings show the GLIAC being below the GLVC, yet the top for don't reflect that.
     

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