2006 Attendance Thread (Belated)

Discussion in 'New England Revolution' started by patfan1, Jul 3, 2006.

  1. Soccer Doc

    Soccer Doc Member+

    Nov 30, 2001
    Keene, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thats right. I've always chosen to avoid hanging out with the lawless elements of society ;). We "Morgueites" have never been hassled while you reprobates in the Fort have for your foul mouth chants and for throwing things at Tubby Tony or Wide-Load Zack. :D
     
  2. Owlsfan

    Owlsfan Member

    Jun 22, 2000
    FWIW, I'm one of those fans who *very* regularly went to see the Revs in the early years (ex-season ticket holder), and my decline in attendance fairly well coincided with the advent of the Razor.

    To be fair, there have been other factors (new family, work, less disposable income and school) that have made it more difficult than it used to be. However, patfan1 hit it on the head at least concerning one reason for me: I don't have that urge to go as much because I feel the owners don't really care. Add in the experience of the Razor is something I don't like, the increase in ticket prices (I know, I know, prices are still considerably lower than most sporting events, but remember I have considerably less disposable income) and less free time, and I'm more of an armchair fan these days.

    But here's the kicker; even if I had more free time, and even if I had more disposable income, I still wouldn't go as much (I'd certainly not consider a season ticket that's for sure) due to the general malaise in ownership I sense and the cavernous deathly atmosphere of the Razor.

    The enthusiasm's gone, and I can't help but feel it isn't solely due to me or my circumstances.

     
  3. A Casual Fan

    A Casual Fan Member+

    Mar 22, 2000
    My attendance-related post for 2006 will simply be a "recycle" of prior year posts -- in the interest of conservation of electricity and other energy sources, but mostly to conserve hot wind.

    2005 -
    Once Set, Which Hook Does The Best Job of Holding The Fan?:
    https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4865973#post4865973

    2004 -

    Maslow's Hierarchy Applied:
    https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3388031#post3388031

    2003 -

    "Hassle Factor" Coined:
    https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1172083#post1172083


    Some factors have been addressed; many still exist. How they play to the attendance number is STILL anyone's guess. It all comes down to each individual and how they make decisions.

    The key to eventual success is that the Revs keep trying things to to figure out which of these factors is the key to bringing the most fans to (or back to) the fanbase. It is clear that "cost" was one direction in which the Revs focused their attack this year (with the 1996 ticket price rollback and the parking fee drop.)

    Keep on trying, Revs.
     
  4. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2006 Attendance Thread (through 7/9)

    Through July 15th, 2006
    Code:
    Team             GP               Average
    Galaxy           10                19,729
    DC United        10                16,806
    Dynamo            9                16,463
    Red Bulls         9                16,454
    RSL               8                15,712
    Chivas            9                15,198
    FC Dallas        11                14,397
    Fire              6                13,143
    Rapids            9                12,920
    Crew              8                12,907
    Wizards           9                11,615
    [B]Revs              8                10,614[/B]
    MLS TOTALS      106                14,814
    
     
  5. JMMUSA8

    JMMUSA8 New Member

    Nov 3, 2001
    Webster
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2006 Attendance Thread (through 7/9)

    So we are now the new Earthquakes.
     
  6. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2006 Attendance Thread (through 7/9)

    No ... we're actually worse than the E-Quakes.

    In 2004, the Quakes averaged 13,001 per game, we were at 12,226.

    Last year the Quakes finished with an average of over 13k. We were at 12,525. The league average was 15,108, we were over 2,500 worse per game than the league average last year.

    This year we are over 4,000 worse per game than the league average.

    But hey, as long as we have a team, that's all that matters. :rolleyes:
     
  7. KaptPowers

    KaptPowers Member

    Dec 29, 2003
    Arlington, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've said this before, and I'm gonna say it again. From a purely capitalistic greedhead standpoint why wouldn't Kraft want his stadium as full on Saturdays for the revs as it is on Sundays for the Pats? Why would you allow attendance to drop...and drop...and drop...hit the cellar...dig a hole....? It just doesn't make any sense to me.

    Sigh.
     
  8. ngower

    ngower foolish grin

    May 24, 2006
    Nashua, NH
    Two things the Revs need to do more of are:

    1. Advertise

    As a graphic designer I know that the easiest way to get your name out there is too do as much stuff as you can, whether it be free or not. That is what the Revs need to do. I have seen more advertisements on TV, Billboards, newspapers etc for the friendlies (Milan v Chelsea, NE v Celtic, and Juve v Barca I believe) in the past few years than I ever have for the Revs.

    2. Better promotions

    Do you really care about Disney night? Does anyone take their kids for Disney night? No, so put better promotions. The win a dat with James Riley could have been a promotion where one lucky seat wins that date. Maybe we could give the first 1,000 people in the stadium a free ticket or something. Maybe we could provide buses like RBNYdid the NY game.


    As much as I love the Krafts financial stability, I think a new owner is necesarry. If Kraft buys Liverpool and we get some sort of a partnership with their youth players, then I wouldn't mind so much, but Kraft is focusing about 10% of his time towards the Revs. Sumil Gulati is too busy with the national team rightnow and can't improve the Revs situation much at all so in order to draw fans, the players need to win games. When New England teams win, New England fans follow.
     
  9. JMMUSA8

    JMMUSA8 New Member

    Nov 3, 2001
    Webster
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Trust me, the last thing we need is a new owner.
     
  10. ngower

    ngower foolish grin

    May 24, 2006
    Nashua, NH
    I'm not saying Kraft is bad, he just has different priorities.
     
  11. Soccer Doc

    Soccer Doc Member+

    Nov 30, 2001
    Keene, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know if things would make any more sense if we knew all the facts and factors involved but this is clearly a multi-factored issue and attandance figures are just one of the factors. When we have the rumor that the Revs are either breaking even or making money and that the Krafts are planning/seriously considering building a SSS the significance of the drop in attandance is even a bit more confusing. I do thin it's safe to say that while the drop in attendance is worrysome the Revs franchise is not going to be leaving town.
     
  12. Chowda

    Chowda Member

    Sep 13, 2004
    Rhode Island
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Best unintential comedy I've seen in at least six hours. I keep picturing Drew sitting in that lucky seat.


    With AEG and HSG having so much trouble unloading their extra teams, I find it very hard to believe we could find a better owner that wanted to keep the team in the area. Management just needs to get their act in gear.
     
  13. The Magpie

    The Magpie Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Cambridge, MA
    I was looking to make some pithy remark here, but the fact of the matter is this: depsite the Revolution's efforts to provide good, new incentives to make it on down to Foxboro each weekend, the Revolution's home attendance numbers continue to freefall.

    One has to wonder what, if any changes might be made after the season should this trend continue.
     
  14. JMMUSA8

    JMMUSA8 New Member

    Nov 3, 2001
    Webster
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yea shes a ho.

    On a serious note, I don't think the Revs care because they don't lose that much money. Who knows, they could be saving their resources for their new marketing strategy and refocus their target market *wink wink new stadium*
     
  15. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2006 Attendance Thread (through 7/9)

    Wow, we suck this year. The silver lining is league wide attendance is down, so it's not like we're bucking the overall trend.

    With that said, what was the attendance from last Friday night? Seemed like a better crowd than most but it's deceiving at the Razor and I didn't look up the numbers. I guess Disney night has its appeal!
     
  16. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2006 Attendance Thread (through 7/9)

    The overall attendance drop throughout the league is 2% from last year. The Revs are 15% below their numbers from last year, so yes, we most certainly are bucking the trend.
     
  17. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2006 Attendance Thread (through 7/9)

    Through July 22nd, 2006
    Code:
    Team             GP               Average
    Galaxy           10                19,729
    DC United        10                16,806
    RSL               9                16,213
    Dynamo           10                15,838
    Red Bulls        10                15,677
    Chivas            9                15,198
    Rapids           10                14,449
    FC Dallas        11                14,397
    Fire              7                13,422
    Crew             10                13,074
    Wizards           9                11,615
    [B]Revs              8                10,614[/B]
    MLS TOTALS      106                14,869
    LAST YEAR                          15,108
    
     
  18. Minutemanii

    Minutemanii Member+

    Dec 29, 2005
    Abington MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Has anyone considered that some people are hurting economically lately? Some of my neighbors -who live beyond their means- have been selling their honkin SUV's and cutting back on things. This may have something to do with it. When times get tight, I think a Rev ticket would be one of the first things to give up on. People would rather go to the Sox or Pats. I'm not one of them but I think it may be true. (I'd rather see a Rev's game than anything else.)

    Also, We need to remember that even if the Revs lose money, they really don't. The Krafts can easily absorb any financial losses into the overall overhead and justify it. Their desire to hold onto this franchise, for its future potential, far outweighs any minor losses they may create presently.

    The Krafts are very shrewd and they are just biding their time. They are waiting for the league to mature and hit a critical mass. When that happens they will make their move, and, with all their big moves, it will be a grand, bold stroke.

    Everyone needs to just settle down and keep supporting the Revs. Kwit-cha-belly-ach-in about things that are not perfect and realize what we have. We have a great team to follow!
     
  19. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes people are hurting. But if they somehow think that it's cheaper to go to a Pats/Sox game than it is to go to a Revs game, they're ... well idiots. Or have they not seen the ticket prices for the Pats and Sox.

    Actually, it's pretty well accepted that this team is either making money or just barely losing money. So that's not really an issue.

    And what would that grand/bold stroke do?

    No one here has stopped supporting the team. But I think most of us acknowledge that we are nowhere close to a "great" team.
     
  20. peabrainedidiot

    peabrainedidiot New Member

    Nov 21, 2005
    wessagussett
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    dead on! although we've had some good seasons, 1 could even be considered great. 2 others very good, But no hardware.... it's really a tale of overall mediocrity.

    as for not supporting, lets face it, considering how much of our lives we waste (not really, but...) on here (BS), watching obsessively, attending games, etc. we analyze it to death, then over analyze it, then talk about it more. Safe to say we are all something a bit more than casual fans. we exhaust ourselves over this crap and if we're going to expend ourselves and commit ourselves like this, we are going to demand more from our team, it's part of the passion. it's half the fun (even though it miserable fun sometimes, like RSL, last Sat, etc.) The highs are higer for us and the lows are lower. Right now, we're all a bit low. I'd still chop a pinky or two off to see these guys win it all.
     
  21. Minutemanii

    Minutemanii Member+

    Dec 29, 2005
    Abington MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe the Front Office is trying very hard to put out a winner. Injuries and the loss of Dempsey for the W.C. definitely reveals their struggles. I have no doubt that when they get healthy, and if they stay healthy, they will begin to steamroll.

    I stick to my guns on that one. I say we have a great coach and a great team waiting for their moment.
     
  22. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We'll see I suppose. I hope you're right and they get proven to be a great team. Right now, they're mediocre.
     
  23. Chowda

    Chowda Member

    Sep 13, 2004
    Rhode Island
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    I don't see the current team surpassing the form they had late last season. That is what scares me.

    On the attendance issue, the lack of saturday night home games this season is simply stunning.

    BTW, any clue as to the Celtic crowd? It looked like 16-18k.
     
  24. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    16,312
     
  25. Minutemanii

    Minutemanii Member+

    Dec 29, 2005
    Abington MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, also, if The Duece bolts for Bolton, or some other Euro team, we can pretty much stick a fork in the Revs.
     

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