2004 Lhusoc (r)

Discussion in 'US Open Cup' started by chn71, Oct 15, 2003.

  1. chn71

    chn71 Member

    Jul 23, 2000
    Elyria, Oh
    Region II finals

    someone on the USL Discussions board posted the draw for the Region II finals

    First Round
    4/25/04 Michigan v. Indiana
    Semifinals
    5/9/04 Michigan/Indiana winner v. Wisconsin
    5/9/04 Wisla v. Missouri

    Final, date TBD

    I also e-mailed a bunch of the states I don't have info on, and I already got a response from Texas North, They are setting the schedule tomorrow, three teams entered.
     
  2. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Region II finals

    Nothing quite like hosting the tournament to get some teams to enter. As long as I've been following this (at least 5 years now), North Texas has never entered a team in it.

    Last North Texas team I know of that was involved was the Richardson Rockets... who lost in the final to Brooklyn Italians in '91.
     
  3. Red Star

    Red Star Member

    Jan 10, 2002
    Fayetteville, AR
    I believe that they are now having round robin play at the regional level, I am pretty sure for Reg III at least. This removes the one and done factor which is a deterrent to teams that would have to travel a long (expensive) way. This would get increased particiapation.
     
  4. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It would... except if I have any memory at all (and sometimes I'm sure I don't) Region III has done round robin in the past. Check out chn's website, under Cup History. In 2001 they had a round robin. Looks like they didn't the past two years. Maybe it's a combination of having two teams per state allowed plus the round robin format.
     
  5. SJJ

    SJJ Member

    Sep 20, 1999
    Royal Oak, MI, USA
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Region II finals

    (f.y.i.) Notes from Region II:

    Region II Policies
    http://www.usasa.com/National Cups/NC Regional Policies 2004 RII.pdf

    Regional Policies

    1. The U.S. Lamar Hunt Men’s Open Cup competition will now allow two (2) regional champions in each region to play in the Open Cup. This means that we will conduct our Open Cup games as we always have (inter-state games) and the two semi-finalists will continue on to the Open Cup competitions. The two semi-finalists will play the final for the regional winner (going on to play for the Werner Fricker Cup) at the Regional Finals.

    IMPORTANT DATES TO KNOW

    Region II National Cups will be played June 18-20 in Milwaukee, WI

    National Cup Finals will be held Aug 6-8 in Orlando, FL

    MEN’S OPEN CUP NOTE:

    All State Winners must be declared no later than April 15th. We will then begin playing interstate competition (luck of the draw) so that our two regional finalists are determined by May 23rd.
     
  6. chn71

    chn71 Member

    Jul 23, 2000
    Elyria, Oh
    Indiana qualifying is finished
    First Round April 3
    Bloomington Cutters 4-1 Elkhart Bayer

    Semifinals April 10
    Reggae Boys 3-1 Bloomington Cutters
    Lafayette Vera Cruz 3-2 FC Indiana

    Final April 11
    Reggae Boys 6-2 Lafayette Vera Cruz

    Thanks to Shek Borkowski from FC Indiana for providing daily updates on the matches this weekend
     
  7. chn71

    chn71 Member

    Jul 23, 2000
    Elyria, Oh
    Eastern Pa. Final result

    Lighthouse SC 3, United German Hungarians 1
     
  8. chn71

    chn71 Member

    Jul 23, 2000
    Elyria, Oh
    Schedule for North Texas qualifying

    The games will be at RE Good #1 at 7:30pm on:

    Thursday, 4/22 (team 1 and team 2)

    Thursday, 4/29 (team 2 and team 3)

    Thursday, 5/6 (team 1 and team 3)

    Looks like they're doing it round robin style, so I'm assuming they're sending the top two teams. Otherwise I'm sure they would've done the usual knock-out tourney. They will draw the teams into their slots on Friday
     
  9. chn71

    chn71 Member

    Jul 23, 2000
    Elyria, Oh
    Region II and IV info

    Got this info from Phillip Detmer of Tyneside United in Las Vegas:

    "The USASA has confirmed the state entries for the 2004 Men's Open Regional Cup Championships in Sacramento, California. The following states have entered in this years Cup Tournament: Nevada (1 team); Cal-South (2 teams); Cal-North (2 teams); Arizona (1 team); MPSL (2 teams). The format for the tournament will be two groups of four teams and play Friday afternoon (May 21). Everyone will have games on Saturday (May 22) morning and again in the afternoon. Sunday (May 23) will be the championships around mid-morning."

    Also, I got a hold ot Tiom Zaiss of Bavarian SC, he confirmed the Michigan and Missouri reps in Region II

    Region II Finals
    First Round
    4/25/04
    Chaldean Arsenal (Michigan) v. Reggae Boys (Indiana)

    Semifinals
    4/25/04
    Wisla (Illinois) v. Busch SC (Missouri)
    5/9/04
    Chaldean Arsenal/Reggae Boys winner v. Bavarians SC (Wisconsin)

    Final TBD
     
  10. chn71

    chn71 Member

    Jul 23, 2000
    Elyria, Oh
    Did I miss a rule change this year? The California Gold-Utah Blitzz match ended 0-0, but they decided the game on penalties, which Cal won 3-1.

    Are they doing this for just the matches designated as qualifiers?
     
  11. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Maryland site now has the full Region I draw. I know it's on the page, but wanted to add it here. Quarterfinal games are (supposedly) this Sunday.

    Northern United (New Hampshire)
    v.

    NY Greek American-Atlas (ENY)

    Boston Olympiakos (Massachusetts)
    v.
    Bridgeport Italians (Connecticut)


    LCC International (DC/Virginia)
    v.

    Sports Club Portugese (New Jersey)


    Allied SC (Maryland)
    v.
    Lighthouse (E. Pennsylvania)
     
  12. Eric B

    Eric B Member

    Feb 21, 2000
    the LBC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's improved a lot lately. It hadn't been updated in over two years. Now it has pretty extensive results for their State Open Cup, which featured over 150 teams, which is huge compared to what I've seen on some other sites. But I don't think it serves as a qualie for the LHUSOC.

    This begs a question I've had about the state level: Why don't the states, and then the regions, just make their national amateur tournament the qualifying for the Open Cup? Why have seperate tournaments? If a regional finailst doesn't want to go on and play a PDL team, then take a third place team. I'm pretty sure most USASA teams in SoCal think they can still beat the USMNT (even after Jeonju), let alone USL teams, so maybe they just don't get excited enough about having to spend more money and take off more time from their lives. If there was one catch-all tourney that served that function, ti could encurage more clubs into the state qualifications, which would make a lot of you Open Cup-ophiles completely lose it! :)
     
  13. emaddy

    emaddy New Member

    I did a double-take at that myself, until I noticed this in a Modesto Bee article a couple of days later:

    "The Gold played to a 1-1 draw with the Utah Blitzz on Saturday after two overtime periods. The Gold thought it had won Friday's game on penalty kicks after double overtime.

    But United Soccer League rules dictate that penalty kicks are only used to decide playoff games. So Friday's decision was ruled a tie."

    Apparently, the refs just screwed up.
     
  14. chn71

    chn71 Member

    Jul 23, 2000
    Elyria, Oh
    Wisla is the first team to qualify for the 2004 Cup!

    They defeated Busch SC 2-1 after extra time to claim one of the Region II spotsChaldean Arsenal of Michigan, who defeated Indiana's Reggae Boys 2-0 yesterday, will face Bavatians SC on May 9 for the other Region II spot, and Wisla will then face the winner of that match for a spot in the USASA National finals.

    Only have one score from Region I so far, Allied SC of Maryland defeated Lighthouse SC 2-1.
     
  15. chn71

    chn71 Member

    Jul 23, 2000
    Elyria, Oh
    More results from Region I

    LCC International 1-2 SC Portugues
    Greek American Atlas 5-2 Northern United (NH)
    Boston Olympiakos ?-? Bridgeport Italians
    the Maryland website says Olympiakos won on PK's

    Semifinals - May 9
    Allied SC v. SC Portugues
    Greek American Atlas v. Boston Olympiakos

    winners qualify for the US Open Cup
     
  16. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would once again like to give a huge THANK YOU to chn for keeping on the USASA teams/regions to keep us all updated. I know very well the time and energy it takes, and it's much appreciated from this end. I'm still mulling over whether to make the trip up to Dallas for the Region III tournament.
     
  17. chn71

    chn71 Member

    Jul 23, 2000
    Elyria, Oh
    Thanks for the props Violet. You forgot to add frustration to time and energy! For every one e-mail asking for info that I get a reply back for, there are 15 more that go unanswered.

    Here is the schedule for the Region III finals
    http://www.ntxsoccer.org/Adult/regionals/finals_schedule.pdf

    Round robin format, 6 teams involved. There are two Open Cup matches scheduled for Friday, Saturday and Sunday, with the final to determine the Region III's USASA National represenative on Monday.
    http://www.ntxsoccer.org/Adult/regionals/region3nationalcupstournament2004.pdf

    The teams involved:
    DS United (Florida)
    Sunrise & OES (Florida)
    Depotivo Peru (South Texas)
    Reynados, Azzuri or Legends, 2 teams get in (North Texas)
    1 team from Mississippi
     
  18. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can't believe, with Dallas so close, that no-one from Oklahoma decided to go for it.

    And regarding the frustration, I *totally* understand. At least there are emails for a lot of these folks now. I did you're doing before there were any email contacts for any of these guys. So I know *exactly* what you're going through. That's the reason that I wanted to thank you again!
     
  19. gsterp

    gsterp Member+

    Jul 16, 2003
    College Park
    Richmond qualified as one of the A-League teams last night by beating Virginia Beach 2-0, winning the series 3-1 on aggregate.
     
  20. GIO17

    GIO17 Member

    Nov 29, 1998
    Sioux Falls in the hole losing their first two qualifiers. Lost 3:4 to KC Brass & 0:2 to St. Louis Strikers. Looks like Differential might save them if they win the next two. PDL Central.
     
  21. SJJ

    SJJ Member

    Sep 20, 1999
    Royal Oak, MI, USA
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  22. chn71

    chn71 Member

    Jul 23, 2000
    Elyria, Oh
    Three more USASA teams get in this weekend

    Region I
    Greek American Atlas v. Boston Olympiakos
    Allied SC v. SC Portugues

    Region II
    Chaldean Arsenal v. Bavarians SC
     
  23. SJJ

    SJJ Member

    Sep 20, 1999
    Royal Oak, MI, USA
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Region II

    Yes, here is the blurb on the Region II game:

    http://www.soccermidwest.us/NatlCups.htm

    The Chaldean Arsenal beat the (Indiana) Reggae Boyz 2-0, and the Arsenal will now host the next rounds of games against the (Wisconsin) Milwaukee Bavarians. That game is currently scheduled for May 9th at 1:00pm at Hurley Stadium in Berkley, MI.

    The Illinois S.A.C. Wisla beat the (Missouri) Busch SC team 2-1 in overtime and will now advance as one of our two semifinalist winners to become part of the USSF Lamar Hunt Open Cup.
     
  24. chn71

    chn71 Member

    Jul 23, 2000
    Elyria, Oh
    PSL qualifying update

    Last night Charlotte became the fist PSL team to complete their four qualifying matches, defeating Northern Virginia 5-0. This gives them 9 points from their 4 games, and a tiebreaker goal differnce of +6*, which should see them clear into the final top 6 for qualifying.

    San Diego stands second, with a maximum 6 points from their 2 games. A draw with Utah on May 14 should assure them of a top 6 spot.

    The rest of the clubs are still jumbled up in the middle, but some of that should be cleared up tonight, with 4 matches kicking off. Northern Virginia is the only club eliminated, sittiong at the bottom of the table at 0-3.

    *-I'm assuming the USL is using the same tiebreakers as last season, which is a maximum 3 goals + or - counted towards goal difference and goals scored. Those gome after head-to-head record, and total wins.

    http://lhusoc.tripod.com
     
  25. JG

    JG Member+

    Jun 27, 1999
    Not sure if you've gotten the score by now but it was 1-1, and then Olympiakos won 4-3 on penalties. Got the info from the Olympiakos website:

    http://www.geocities.com/boston_olympiakos/
     

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