2003 CONCACAF Champions Cup: Both Revs games in Costa Rica

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by The Magpie, Feb 21, 2003.

  1. The Magpie

    The Magpie Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Cambridge, MA
    According to the CONCACAF official website, the New England Revolution will be playing both first round matches against LD Alajuelense (Costa Rica) at Estadio Alejandro Morera Soto:

    http://www.concacaf.com/news/article.page/1226

    So the Revs "home" game is effectively away...

    Unbelieveable.

    I'd love to see Jeff Bradley or one of the MLSNET columnists wrap their heads around this one.

    Every other MLS team will have one home match, but the Revs won't, or so it seems.

    If this is a decision on the part of the Revs organization and the Krafts then they can kiss my season ticket renewal goodbye.

    I hope to #@!$ God it's a typo.

    The Magpie
     
  2. HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid Member

    Apr 9, 1999
    Did they sell the game to Alajuela, or did they just say 'not interested'? cause while dumb either way it's profoundly dumb if the second.

    Seems odd after they talked about maybe playing matches in New Britain, Providence, or whatever.

    Cap it off with the fact that this is one of the closer first round matchups. Alajuela is a good team.
     
  3. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    a) If this is true, it is indeed indefensible, even if they had to play in Williamstown.

    b) Magpie, I would recommend in not being too rash and not renewing your season tix. No need to cut off your nose to spite your face (or however the saying goes). Get the tix but write the most mean-spirited letter to the Vice-Pres, the GM and Pres you can muster. Then send it to the letters to the editor section of the Globe and the Herald.

    I don't think the players or Nicol would put up with this. I just don't.
     
  4. The Magpie

    The Magpie Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Cambridge, MA
    Flashman.

    If you had a sense of the manner in which the Krafts have regularly cut corners at the expense of the fans support, then you'd understand why I'd take that course of action.

    The Revs wouldn't give a #@!# about a mean-spirited letter, they probably have a bn that goes straight to the incinerator.

    When it comes to the relationship between supporters and club, the Revolution remain the least progressive in the league.

    If this is true then the Revs are going to have to beg for my money; I've already given them enough (and a few pounds of flesh) on a silver platter.

    The Magpie
     
  5. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

    Jun 16, 1999
    Davis, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is shocking. What better way to expand the fan base in the New England region by getting Costa Ricans to the stadium.

    Perhaps there's a rush to judgement, or maybe an error somewhere...
     
  6. Jose L. Couso

    Jose L. Couso New Member

    Jul 31, 2000
    Arlington, VA
    Soccer America has New England as the home team, but has the site as (TBD), i.e. to be determined. SA

    I would assume it is a typo.

    If it is not, then it would be shocking!
     
  7. Coach_Barry

    Coach_Barry Member

    Aug 18, 2001
    Taunton, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No final decision yet.

    As I posted on the Revs forum...

    I just got off the phone with someone from the Revs office.

    No decision has been made about where to play the 'home' leg.

    Clearly, Gillette Stadium has been ruled out. They are actively searching for another venue, but I am told that they have not found a suitable one, yet. I am told that with the feet and inches of snow on the ground, it has been difficult to evaluate the conditions of the local pitches.

    Playing in Florida is an option as is playing both games in CR.
     
  8. Rodan

    Rodan New Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Providence
    Re: No final decision yet.

    When seeing this phrase repeated, I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
     
  9. Treetaliano

    Treetaliano Member

    Jun 29, 2002
    Charlotte, NC
    why the hell is Gillette "not an option" ??
     
  10. soccerfan

    soccerfan BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 13, 1999
    New Jersey
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I do prey to the Gods that MLS and the Revs have more brain then to play both games in CR. Worst case senarion ( maybe not that bad idea) to use this game in a potential expansion city to test the market, but give the Revs some kind of home feel as well. Of course best would be to have it at home stadium.
     
  11. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    That's my question, too.
     
  12. Sachin

    Sachin New Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Probably too expensive to open for the likely attendence. Is this game part of the season ticket package?

    Sachin
     
  13. roarksown1

    roarksown1 Member

    Mar 30, 2001
    Playa del Rey, CA
    Club:
    Hamburger SV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's obviously a typo. Anything else would be unheard of, and that's just not the case. Rest assured - there will be a home game somewhere for the Revs.
     
  14. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's obviously a typo. Anything else would be unheard of, and that's just not the case. Rest assured - there will be a home game somewhere for the Revs.
    So roarkstown1, you really think you know? These are the Krafts we are talking about, so I wouldn't be sure. I hope you are, but...
    Well, I called the Revs office, and after listening through a recording hyping a game that happened 4 months ago, I got a guy in sales. I gave him a piece of my mind in a polite way, since he was just the messinger, etc.

    He said that they had "discussed" various options read: other potential stadiums in New England, i.e. Providence, New Britian, Nickerson Field (Breakers) Ludlow (D3 WMass Pioneers), and "none of them could guarantee that the field would be playable. Obviously the field at Gillette would be playable, since they have undersoil heating and we knew that we'd be in this tournament the moment we sent the Crew packing in mid-October.

    The Revs have clearly made their choice. They don't want to open up Gillette for the game, even if it was part of the season ticket package and would be guaranteed at least 6,000+ tickets sold. And God forbid, they might get even more if they promoted the @#*&%$# game (maybe the phone message on 1-877-GET-REVS might be a start, huh?)

    We should let them know that this is not acceptable, and that playing both legs in Costa Rica is a disgrace. Winning one game against a good team down there will be difficult enough, but winning two will be near impossible.

    There is a petition going around and we are asking all fans (even of other teams) to sign this. Hopefully I got the URL right. Thank you for your support.

    N.E. Revolution to play their "HOME" leg at home
    http://www.petitiononline.com/revsccc/petition-sign.html

    Tom
     
  15. Smurfquake

    Smurfquake Moderator

    Aug 8, 2000
    San Carlos, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't the Krafts own the stadium? How can it be more expensive for them than for the Galaxy (who are renting out Titan Stadium in Fullerton for their home game) or the Quakes (who are renting out Spartan Stadium for their home game)?

    I gotta go with the Revs fans on this one -- the Krafts suck. Sure, opening up Gillette costs money, since you gotta pay the staff for parking and concessions, etc. but at least the other MLS teams are making the effort in this competition even if it may be a financial hit for them.
     
  16. soccertim

    soccertim Member

    Mar 29, 2001
    Mass
    Apparently you're unfamiliar with our management/ownership. I'd put a home game in NE at no higher than 40%.
     
  17. Hattrix

    Hattrix Member

    Sep 1, 2002
    Chicago
    This must be a typo. Any suggestion that a mid-February storm jeopardizes an early April game is insane. Play the game at some college and hire Hell's Angels to do security. Make it BYOB.
     
  18. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Bring Your Own Biker?
     
  19. pething101

    pething101 Member

    Jul 31, 2001
    Smyrna, Ga
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bring your own Bitch?
     
  20. Tea Men Tom

    Tea Men Tom Member+

    Feb 14, 2001
    Wow, that's pretty harsh. With the winter we've had, there is zero guarantee that any grass field in New England will be playable in late March.

    I'm guessing a game like this wouldn't attract 1000 fans to Foxboro. Keep in mind there's a good chance that it'll be raining with temperatures in the low 30's.

    I'm wondering if they might actually make money playing Costa Rica because I would assume they would get a larger share of the gate.
     
  21. The Magpie

    The Magpie Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Cambridge, MA
    Not a typo from what I'm hearing. Revs are and have been looking for other venues, but it sounds like they're not having much luck.

    As for Gillette? Hell, I was a chaperone when they were giving the stadium tours towards the end of construction back in January of 2002. The project manager spoke of the miles and miles of undersoil heating, the hearty turf, and how games could be played there in ANY weather...

    ... but it's the "bottom line" rather than the weather that's preventing this match from being played in Foxboro.

    Anyone familiar with the Krafts know that they spend the bare minimum to remain competative. While they own the stadium there are the costs associated with concessions, security, parking, etc.

    The Revs, or rather, the Krafts... won't spend the money...

    So why even bother playing?

    As I said in another forum, if there's going to be the indignity of playing a "home" game outside of New England, play the mother down in South Florida as a benefit for FIU like United just did. With the large Costa Rican population there a good penny could be raised... but that won't happen.

    Bitterly disappointed and angry,

    The Magpie
     
  22. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    What an apologist.

    Play it in another US city. Like the MLS test games in Oklahoma City and Tulsa. Just don't play the game in Costa Rica.

    If you're worried about money - just keep winning and advancing. You'll get some nice warm weather games.
     
  23. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I will fully agree that the Krafts suck, but perhaps another reason that they are taking this tournament less seriously than others is that these CONCACAF clubs don't have the same drawing power in New England that they do in the rest of the country. If the Revs can get past the first round, they will likely face America (unless America tanks the first round, since they probably don't care about this tournament). Pretty much anywhere else in MLS, except Columbus, where they will take the tournament seriously simply because the folks running that team have more clue, the prospect of a competitive match against America would give the GM visions of many dollar signs and cause them to do whatever possible to get past a difficult opponent like Alajuelense. But the greater Boston area isn't crawling with Americrap fans, so the Pats/Revs management doesn't care.

    Of course, they should have been spending the last 7 years building a loyal and knowledgeable fan base that would show up regardless of the popularity of the opponent, but they are the Krafts, after all. Though the lack of a large number of fiercely loyal home fans is a problem for all MLS teams.
     
  24. Beerking

    Beerking Member+

    Nov 14, 2000
    Humboldt County
    This is the God's truth, ask any Quakes fan about the Krafts and they'll tell you the same.;)
     
  25. Delta Blues

    Delta Blues New Member

    Jun 25, 1999
    King Willieville
    Looks like Seattle's available March 29th. Probably get 20,000 just because they want to see some soccer after being broomhandled by USSF, who as the match kicks off will still be saying "we expect Japan to show up any minute..."

    Kevin
     

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