My DD had like eight nursing majors on her D1 soccer team, they all passed/graduated too. Every school is different, every coach is different, every prof is different. The difficulty is in labs, if you have labs or clinicals, you can only miss so many, or you get dropped. If your child is organized and a communicator, it works, if not, they will be in trouble.
Right. I know the same. All I have said is that there are some majors that are just not athlete friendly. And, it’s also very different at various schools too. Some work with athletes. Some the coaches understand. Some the school won’t permit athletes in certain fields. It happens. It’s all over the place. But, I’ve never heard where being an athlete truly hurts for anything beyond undergrad. Never heard it for grad school. Never heard it for med school. Never heard it for any job. Not saying it couldn’t happen, but it would be more rare than anything.
Jesus, you're a trip. Your kid is what, 10? at least prepubescent and you honestly are considering whether he can play two college sports? Wait until your son actually starts to compete at a national level league wise in soccer before you start plotting this all out. I'm sure he is talented but you seem pretty cavalier about what it takes just to make it to one D1 team in any sport not to mention two. Pump the breaks and enjoy the scenery out your window right now while on this ride. You don't know what you don't know.
its just a question bro. chill if you don't want to answer it then don't. some people get so riled up over simple questions. that is kinda trippy
I'll agree with Stig about it being waay too early for a young kid. However, yes lots of dual sport athletes in D1. Most are baseball / football. Scholarship always counts to the revenue sport, so scholarship counts towards football if baseball football. Soccer / baseball terrible combination as neither are full scholarship sports in D1 at least it's VERY rare to get a full athletic scholarship for either sport.
I will also push back against you and @The Stig about the notion that it is too early to think about. My kid is now playing U11 soccer. Soon he will be eyeing MLS Next, which starts at U13, BUT there have been several players at our club, including U11 players, who played up to U13 MLS Next. And why that matters is that MLS Next does not allow you to play HS (or middles school) soccer (and perhaps other sports, not sure). And why that matters it that you have to be pretty much soon thinking about whether you are going to do soccer year round (aiming to climb the highest levels, ie MLS Next which starts soon) or if you are going to not do that so that you can play another sport. HS will be here soon enough. And you don't just prepare for it when you show up to tryouts freshman year. You have to prep before that. So I would argue that now is a good time to start thinking about it. You have to consider how MLS Next plays with HS sports if you are a multi sport kid. And that plays into what will happen in college. While college is a long time away, it is a chain reaction kind of thing, where you have to look at all the stages that lead up to college. You won't play in college if you don't make the HS baseball/football team. And if you are going to do that then you have to consider if you're gonna do MLS Next or do multi sport (you could do baseball+soccer in HS). Anyways, I want to look ahead and make sure I'm not leaving any stone unturned because you only get one shot. I want to know what the options are. He could... *do MLS Next only *do baseball+HS soccer *baseball+football kicker *baseball+football+soccer (HS) *do lower club league (ECNL) + HS sport etc The local pro academy (Sac Rep) starts at U13 which is soon. Some kids play up a year, so they are 11 playing at a pro academy U13. That is not very far for my son. Is it?
As I've asked repeatedly... what does your SON want to do? This is a decision HE should be making. Yes, gather the info as far as "if you play MLS Next, you can't play school ball" and inform him. Answer any questions he may have, or tell him you'll help him research things. This is not a decision for YOU. I know, we all want what's best for our kids. But they get a say in it. Yes, they will make decision we don't agree with. But that's how life goes.
How many times do different people on this and other threads have to point out that you are going to make your kid quit, before you actually take some advice to heart? If you are never going to listen, why keep posting and asking here?
Do you though? If your son says "I don't want to play soccer any more, nor baseball, basketball, or any sport! I want to play the trombone in marching band!" Are you saying you get to overrule him? Sorry, the kids get more than "a say". They get to make the decision. IMO, the only time I'd "overrule" them is if they wanted to quit before the end of the current commitment. Nope, not going to happen. You committed, you finish.
I would say pick a sport. You can chose. You can also chose an instrument. Pick any sport and any instrument. There's time for both. Maybe until he's a certain age, maybe 16 or 17. By then he's close enough to adulthood and he can make his own decisions. But I will still advise him. I think parents should give advice.
So in your mind, he MUST play a sport? That's how I read your post. If that's not what you mean, I apologize. I TOTALLY disagree with forcing any child to play a sport. Must they be involved in SOMETHING? Sure. But that could be church youth group, a dungeons & dragons group, a theater group, a band, SOMETHING. I have no problem with giving advice. In my mind "giving advice" <> "getting a say". To me, "getting a say" means actually have a choice in the decision.
Yes Sam I would force my kid to play a sport. But he can also do theater, band, and other stuff you mentioned. I think sports are good for the body, and good for other things, so I don't see the problem. We force kids to take PE class right? Why do we do that? Because its good for them.
And also, I do listen. I'm fairly chill with my kid compared to some parents. I don't scream at him during games. I let him fail and that's how you learn. I tell him before every game to try hard and have fun. Some parents don't push their kids much at all, and some push them a lot. I am somewhere it between it seems. The main thing I do is try to keep my kid active and keep him working on his hand-eye coordination (for baseball) and foot-eye coordination (for soccer) and stuff like that. We do some skill work here and there to keep his skills going and not get too rusty. Building and keeping an athletic base. I would advise this for all kids. It can be as simple as having the kid go out and shoot some basketballs and juggle the soccer balls. But the kids should be doing something because its good for the brain and eyes and body. Rather than just on screens for many hours. There is an epidemic of myopia because people and kids are inside too much and on screens too much.
I do think sports are good for kids (and adults, wish I did more). But, I don't think they should be forced on kids. We force kids to take English (and Math, Science, and History among others). Would you force your son to do a book report on Shakespeare (not assigned in class)? Dissect a frog? Memorize the Gettysburg Address?
I would force him to do something with his spare time. A sport is a good thing to do. I wouldn't force him to do academics because I feel he gets enough in school. But I would support him if he wanted to dissect frogs as a hobbie. While I would force him to play a sport, it would not have to be competitive. Let's say I had a kid who was not athletic. I would not pressure him to perform well in sports. I would just say pick a sport or two and we would find the level that fits him. Rec soccer, or whatever. Maybe he does martial arts and goes at his own pace. Actually probably if my kid were more introverted and preferred solo sports, I would say ok pick a solo sport (like rock climbing or track) and also pick a team sport (like rec soccer) because I think its good for him to learn to be on a team, and he can make friendships too. A lot of kids are just stuck in their rooms on the interenet on bad websites and/or watching bad things and playing really negative and violent video games for many hours while drinking red bull or Monster energy drinks. Or worse they're using Oculus Rift alot and hurting their eyes. You have to get outside. There are plenty of sports our there, so I don't see the problem. There is no kid in the world that can't pick a sport out of the entire world of sports. Pick one: volleyball, baseball, basketball, hockey, football, flag football, soccer, indoor soccer, futsal, wrestling, tennis, table tennis, track and field, cross country, golf, badminton, lacrosse, field hockey, rugby, skiing, snowboarding, skateboarding, cycling, ju jitsu, martial arts, boxing, gymnasitcs, archery, fishing, cheerleading, dance, rock climbing, sailing, horse riding, race car driving, row, swim, water polo, short track speed skating, surfing. I would say, you have to pick one or maybe even two of these. In fact, there should be pressure from the fed govt for every citizen to participate in one of these. This way there would be healthier society, people talking to neighbors and socializing and committing less crimes. Maybe I should run for President. You get a tax credit if you sign up for a sport. Do I have your vote Sam?
After your first few posts I realized the best path was just to let you build-your-own-adventure. But, quick heads-up, you are not “somewhere in-between”. Still, God bless ya. I hope all your plans work out in the way you visualize.
how do you know i'm not somewhere in between - you don't even know me. i don't yell at my kid like some parents. i don't setup all these private trainings like some parents. so tell me, why do you think one of those parents?
Maybe not at the level you seem to be envisioning for him. If you're worried about his not getting fundamental soccer skills or whatever by age 10, then he's waaaaaay behind on an instrument (especially if he hasn't picked one yet).
He already does an instrument at his school band. Doesn't matter as much for instrument because you can't get a scholarship for instrument, or maybe you can but it's not like something that is largely recruited on. Also, when it comes to sports, for any kid they should play at their level. Did you see my post to Sam, I listed a lot of sports. Pick one. Good?
If you’re talking about a talent and technical level that is potentially pro-level, comparable to a pro soccer academy track, then yes absolutely—being a gifted musician can be something that plays into admissions or even scholarships, just like if you’re actually great at theater or math or graphic arts. But how are you going to know when your kid is 10 what he’s actually going to love enough to dedicate himself to at that level? If you just want your kid to play sports, instruments, learn math at whatever level because it’s good for him then by all means—everyone here probably would agree with you. But your posts constantly give the impression that you are trying to plan out a much more ambitious sports future for your son. I think people are just trying to share some cautionary wisdom for both you and your son.
Well, this is flat out wrong. Top musicians and scholars ARE "recruited", just not in the same way an athlete is. Get a 4.0+, max out the ACT/SAT, and yes, schools will be knocking down your door and throwing money at you. Again, I don't think anyone is saying kids shouldn't play sports. Heck, everyone on the board presumably has (or had) a kid who played at least one sport. What *I*, and I'm guessing others, have a problem with is you think sports should be "forced" on kids. Doesn't matter if their interests lie else, they're going to play a sport! Yes, I think that's wrong.
Yes I see a special talent in my son. And I know what you are thinking. "I've seen a lot of dads that see something special in their son. You are just one of those dads" But anyways... regardless of that... there is what the dad might subjectively see through rose colored glasses... but then there is objective stuff that the rest see. My kid has done well in the highest level available. No he is not probably top 1% and that is ok because a lot of those kids will burn out. I don't even want to push him to be top 1%. He is probably more like top 5%. Which is a good place to be. He has been on the top team in a top club for now the 4th year. If he were good at something else then I would support that. He's becoming good at baseball and I support. For the next year or two he will be playing both sports at a competitive level. And then I don't know what happens from there. I guess he'll have to pick a sport since sports these days demand that kids specialize if they are competitive. Unfortunately.