2/19/03: U

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by jmeissen0, Feb 19, 2003.

  1. FootyMundo

    FootyMundo New Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    Minneapolis
    No doubt saving a PK is hard. I think they should have a flying volley shot on goal as one of the Top 10 as well. Because to me, that is the absolute hardest thing to do in sports - at least do it well.

    I try to describe it to my brother-in-law, a baseball fan, like this. Ken Griffey, Jr. is asked to stand in the outfield with a bat. Someone hits a ball out to him on the fly on a rope. He now has to use that bat to hit the ball back into second base with great accuracy.

    I don't even bother adding in the goalie.
     
  2. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Anyone know what the top 10 list of hardest sports feats actually is? I'm kind of curious.
     
  3. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078

    it's a series, they've just done the 9th (or second one)... there might be a list there of what the ten are... i didn't look around


    check that story for some links to it on the sides...
     
  4. andylovesoccer

    Sep 2, 2000
    Asheville, NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I swear to my God that if hitting a fcuking baseball is higher on the list than stopping a pk, I will bring my own personal, and very hellacious, retribution to the sports editors at USA Today, or more fittingly, The McPaper.
     
  5. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That ought to scare them. :rolleyes:
     
  6. andylovesoccer

    Sep 2, 2000
    Asheville, NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who said anything about scaring them ??? It would only bring out my mischevious side, nothing worse. Mischief can be hellacious, right?

    :p
     
  7. HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid Member

    Apr 9, 1999
    Yeah, because they hate us! And by god, hitting a 100 mph 3.5" diameter baseball with a narrow cylindrical stick into a specified region of area without putting it into one of 9 smart moving targets on the fly in order to reach a distance 90 ft away from standstill before anyone can get the ball there is the easiest thing to do in history! Easier than falling out of bed, even!
     
  8. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Meola and Preki sure do sound thrilled about their South African trip.
     
  9. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    for some reason, this isn't something i would expect Steve Nicol to say:

     
  10. wasdykec

    wasdykec Member

    May 6, 2002
    Jax, Florida
    Re: Re: 2/19/03: U

    i don't even really like baseball that much, especially since i would be a tigers fan. But i would have to agree, I think hitting a baseball could be the hardest thing to do in sports.
     
  11. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    excellent article by Bonnie Desimone on the vagaries of the qualification process in the Tribune
     
  12. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078

    i dunno, i originally thought that too... but then all he means is that he would rather his players lose the ball trying to beat someone on the offensive side, rather than pass the ball back, have it intercepted and turned into a quick counter attack

    at least that's what i took it as
     
  13. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    Here's my favorite:

    "When goalkeeper Tony Meola was asked about the trip, he simply muttered, 'The safari was good.' "


    I guess Gansler forgot to tell Tony that he was only supposed to "look" at the animals -- not BBQ them. :)
     
  14. kpaulson

    kpaulson New Member

    Jun 16, 2000
    Washington DC
    I've had this discussion before and I think people routinely underestimate how hard soccer is. When I say "passing is difficult" or setting up a free kick is difficult, people think it's just kicking a ball.

    Which it is, in a way, but on free kicks, you're aiming for such a tiny spot, with enough force that the keeper won't see it. How often do professionals fail miserably? I'd be willing to bet that a good free kick specialist converts far less than 1 in 3....
     
  15. HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid Member

    Apr 9, 1999
    "Tony 'Lunchbox' Meola then attempted to stuff a emu in his pants to take as a snack on the long coach class flight"
     
  16. Mimir19

    Mimir19 Member

    Jan 28, 2001
    Buffalo, NY
    Poor fat tony.. Maybe he was thinking that if he was still kicker for the Jets he wouldn't have to go on trips to South Africa and then mutter about it..
     
  17. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078

    yes, but you are comparing an at bat to a free kick... not hitting a pitch into play and safely touching base

    the average at bat is several pitches... meaning that the ability to hit a thrown ball into play and safely touch base is far less that 1 in 3
     
  18. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    well, i can see how you can read it that way. but i consider Nicol more of a long ball, get in the cross kind of guy, and having him urge players to take defenders on 1 v. 1 seems antithetical to at least some of that system.

    maybe i've read him wrong. if he's really looking for players to beat people off the dribble, he must really be pining for an attacking mid who can break down a defense.
     
  19. kpaulson

    kpaulson New Member

    Jun 16, 2000
    Washington DC
    You see the pros send the ball into the stands countless times a game when attempting a shot on goal and, over here, the announcers always say "you really expect a player of that caliber to do better".

    Well, no, the fact is you don't. The norm is that player can't control the ball that's whipped in at 40-50 miles an hour from the flank. The fact is, professional players usually miss.

    So after Thomas Radzinki's eight miss in as many shots, you'd think the announcers would realize it.

    Our sport IS hard. just because anyone can kick a ball doesn't mean lofting a cross field pass that curls into the stride of an on-rushing player at just the right speed is easy...
     
  20. christopher d

    christopher d New Member

    Jun 11, 2002
    Weehawken, NJ
  21. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078
    Re: Re: 2/19/03: U


    lol


    his title was positive and it stayed positive... i think he got mike tyson's meds on accident
     
  22. kpaulson

    kpaulson New Member

    Jun 16, 2000
    Washington DC
    That's not really relevant. It's not like the skill of hitting a ball with a bat exists outside of the rules. It would be a different strategy altogether if you only had one pitch to hit, but that's not the case.

    But even if we take that idea all the way, let's say scoring a goal is like getting an rbi and a good player will get 100 rbis in 500 at bats, with 3 strikes in each at bat. So that would be a 1 in 15 success rate. OK-- so how many players do you think score on 1 in 15 free kicks?
     
  23. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078

    but the talk was of hitting a baseball... not of getting a hit per at bat
     

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