1990's: Decade All-Star Lineup

Discussion in 'Players & Legends' started by leszek-antonio, Sep 10, 2011.

  1. leszek-antonio

    Mar 16, 2008
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    In my opinion this was the best possible starting eleven of the 1990's. Each of the players position was taken into consideration as to balance the team as much as possible. I used a popular 90's formation: The 4-4-2

    Some of these players continued or even surpassed their success in the early 2000's, however, I still included them in the 90's team because during this decade they were already top class.

    My question :

    1. Are they really the best of the 1990's ?

    2. Would these players balence each other in the starting lineup ?

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    Goalkeeper: 1. Peter Schmeicel (Captain)


    Left Back: 3. Roberto Carlos

    Center Back: 4. Ronald Koeman

    Center Back: 5. Paulo Maldini (played both left back and center back)

    Right Back: 2. Lilian Thuran


    Defensive Midfielder: 6. Matthias Sammer (Vice Captain)

    Right Midfielder: 7. Luis Figo

    Left Midfielder: 11. Ryan Giggs

    Central Midfielder: 21. Zinedine Zidane (Vice Captain)


    Forward: 9. Ronaldo

    Forward: 18. Jürgen Klinsmann
     
  2. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    Maldini was mostly a left in the 90s wasnt he?

    also Batistuta or Romario instead of Klinsman

    Baggio needs to be in there somewhere, also Laudrup
     
  3. leszek-antonio

    Mar 16, 2008
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland

    -Maldini was a left in the 90's (before a CB later in his playing days) but I wanted to include R.Carlos and moved Paulo to the center, as he also did play there.

    - Bati-goal and Romario were quality, I would place them both on the bench..... Klinsi would fit well with Ronaldo I think. And he was deadly in the 90's at each major tournament for Germany, winning two of them.

    M.Laudrup would be a back up to Zidane.
     
  4. zahzah

    zahzah Member+

    Jun 27, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    I agree on Klinnsman ahead of Batistuta and Romario. May not be flashy, but was deadly and clinical. Could be a great match-up between him and Ronaldo.
     
  5. Daniel96

    Daniel96 Member

    Aug 12, 2011
    Australia, NSW
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Best Right Back - Cafu
    Best Left Back - R.Carlos
    Attacking Mid - Zidane
    Striker - Ronaldo 9
     
  6. schwuppe

    schwuppe Member+

    Sep 17, 2009
    Club:
    FC Kryvbas Kryvyi Rih
    Matthäus was better than Sammer, but his best years were in the late 80s/early 90s so it's debatable whether he merits consideration or not.

    Same concerns with Rivaldo or Raul as their primes came in a decade transition.
     
  7. leszek-antonio

    Mar 16, 2008
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland

    You have a good point. It was difficult to choose between Sammer, Matthaus and.... Rijjakard for the D-MF position. But I could only select one, so I decided on Sammer becasue Matthaus merit runs deeply into the 1980's, same as Rijjkard's.
     
  8. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    Klinsman was not better than Bati or Romario

    and if anyone is a good fit to pair with Ronaldo that man would be Romario

    also Laudrup over Zidane

    Baggio really has to be somewhere in a 90's team
     
  9. Loddar

    Loddar Member

    Oct 12, 2009
    Herzogenaurach
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Goalkeeper: 1. Peter Schmeichel (Denmark)


    Left Back: 3. Paolo Maldini (Italy)

    Center Back: 4. Jürgen Kohler (Germany)

    Center Back: 5. Marcel Desailly (France)

    Right Back: 2. Cafu (Brazil)


    Defensive Midfielder: 6. Lothar Matthäus(Germany)

    Left Midfielder: 7. Hristo Stoichkov (Bulgaria)

    Right Midfielder: 8. Overmars (Netherlands)

    Attacking Midfielder: 10. Zinedine Zidane (France)


    Forward: 9. Ronaldo (Brazil)

    Forward: 11.Romario (Brazil)
     
  10. leszek-antonio

    Mar 16, 2008
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland

    Very Interesting. I always considered H. Stoichkov as a striker, but yes he also played left-wing, so its actually possible to include him. As for J.Kohler....maybe. Desaily is also a very good choice.

    Good lineup:)
     
  11. Loddar

    Loddar Member

    Oct 12, 2009
    Herzogenaurach
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Well for me Kohler is not just one of the best defender in the 90´s, but of all time. In an all time lineup Kohler would be one out of 4 players from that 90´s lineup I would include.
     
  12. leszek-antonio

    Mar 16, 2008
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    J.Kohler was a fantastic defender. Its tough competition in the 90's as they were many very good Italian and French teams that with amazing defenders (also Baresi).... Wasn't Kohler more of a late 80's player??? I know he had lots of later success in the 90's as well.

    Also, I may have omitted Kohler because there was something about his style of play. I don't remember exactly, but it may have been based on disciplinary records.

    Well, its very difficult to seperate between guys like Kohler, Koeman, Baresi or Maldini.....
     
  13. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    Line up 4 2 2 2

    ----------- Ronaldo(9) ---- Romario(11) ---------

    ---Baggio(8)-------------------- Stoichkov (7)---

    ----------Laudrup(10) ----- Mathaus(6) ----------

    Maldini(5) -------------------------------- Cafu (2)
    --------- J.Stam(4) --------- Desailly(3) ----------

    --------------- Scmeichel (1)------------------

    SUB:

    11: Bergkamp
    10: Zidane
    9: Batistuta
    8: Overmars
    7: Cantona
    6: Sammer
    5: Brehme
    4: Baresi
    3: Albertini
    2: Thuram
    1: Taffarel
     
  14. Loddar

    Loddar Member

    Oct 12, 2009
    Herzogenaurach
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Kohler definitely belongs in a 90´s lineup. Koeman is more 80 than him btw. Also Koeman was a better free kick taker than defender... Wouldn´t have him even in an top ten CB list.
    Also I can not remember Kohler being sent off that often. The only sending off I remember was in his last match in the UEFA-Cup final in 2002 and there he was 36 years old and way past his prime.
     
  15. leszek-antonio

    Mar 16, 2008
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    No Jurgen Klinsman, not even on the bench??? Come on man.... you can't be serious. As great as R.Baggio was, he wasn't as consitent and prolific at major tournaments as Klinsi.... :confused:
     
  16. leszek-antonio

    Mar 16, 2008
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    That's a good point about Koeman and his defensive abilities.

    However, Koeman was a sensation on a historical scale with his hard shot and free-kicks and style of play..... there has never been a player like it since (Roberto Carlos was a left back and had a different style). On the other hand, there has been a few players similar to Kohler's style or abilties.
     
  17. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Many great players during that decade, here's my XI:

    GK: Schmeichel (I also like Chilavert)
    RB: Zanetti (or Cafu, both better than Thuram)
    CB: Koeman
    CB: Hierro
    LB: Maldini or Roberto Carlos
    DM: Redondo (the best in the deepest position of the decade)
    HM: Veron (or Guardiola)
    RM: Zidane
    LM: Rivaldo
    FW: Ronaldo (or Romario)
    FW: Stoichkov (or Batistuta)
     
  18. Estel

    Estel Member+

    May 5, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    My 'Modern' All Star XI (applicable for the mid to late 90s IMO):


    -----------------------------Schmeichel----------------------------


    ----------------Thuram----------------------Maldini----------------
    -----------------------------Sammer(C)----------------------------


    ---Zanetti-------------------------------------------------Carlos---
    ------------------------------Redondo------------------------------


    -------------------------------Zidane------------------------------


    -------Figo--------------------------------------------Giggs-------
    ------------------------------Ronaldo------------------------------


    Subs: Baggio, Laudrup, Cafu, Desailly, Kahn

    Coach: Louis Van Gaal (employing an unfamiliar to him 3-3-1-3 formation)


    Things keep on changing for me, so this is more like a 'current' version and not a definitive one.
     
  19. leszek-antonio

    Mar 16, 2008
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    I would love to see this formation with the exact linup. Its looks very well balanced. The Wings would be soooooo deadly:p
     
  20. United_xxx

    United_xxx Member

    Aug 10, 2004
    Thailand
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    ................... Ronaldo

    .................................... Baggio (FK taker no. 1)

    ........ Giggs .......................... Savicevic......... Beckham (FK taker no. 2)

    ..............................Kean (C)

    Maldini .................. Turam.......................Stam.................... Zanetti


    ...........................................Schmeichel
     
  21. Estel

    Estel Member+

    May 5, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Actually, in true Bielsa fashion, the wingbacks tend to move diagonally towards the center and near the edge of the box to provide support to the lone playmaker. Ofcourse they can also always move to the outside as well, if needed. Only if the wingbacks are versatile enough and have a big enough engine to regularly be available at both ends of the pitch will the formation work.

    Also, the striker is not ideal IMO but too good to leave out. My ideal striker would be clinical with the head as well.

    However, the wings sure are deadly since all of the wingforwards, wingbacks and side-center backs can make runs on the outside, whenever they see space. Ohh and btw, I use this formation in all my FIFA games. Works great for me.:)
     
  22. y.o.n.k.o

    y.o.n.k.o Member

    Jan 12, 2010
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Some interesting lineups and opinions here.

    It's all about people's different preferences. If we use a 4-4-2 formation (classic/flat or diamond) then some very good players would be left out. Same could happen if we use other formations.

    For a balanced formation/team, I personally prefer Thuram and Maldini as fullbacks over players like Cafu, Carlos or Zanetti, even though they were very good as well. Sammer can only find a place on a team if the formation involves a sweeper, as that is how he was most influential and best used. Similarly, Zidane should be included only if the formation uses an AM (not in a classic/flat 4-4-2).

    Here is my take:

    Using 4-4-2 classic/flat:

    GK - Schmeichel
    DR - Thuram
    DL - Maldini
    DC - Desailly
    DC - Stam
    MC - Davids
    MC - Keane
    MR - Figo
    ML - Giggs
    ST - Romario
    ST - Ronaldo

    Using 4-4-2 diamond:

    GK - Schmeihel
    DR - Thuram
    DL - Maldini
    DC - Desailly
    DC - Stam
    DM - Redondo
    MR - Beckham
    ML - Davids
    AM - Zidane
    ST - Romario
    ST - Ronaldo

    Using 3-5-2:

    GK - Schmeichel
    SW - Sammer
    DRC - Thuram
    DLC - Maldini
    WBR - Cafu
    WBL - R.Carlos
    MC - Redondo
    MC - Keane
    AM - Zidane
    ST - Romario
    ST - Ronaldo

    Using 4-3-3:

    GK - Schmeichel
    DR - Cafu
    DL - Maldini
    DC - Thuram
    DC - Desailly
    DM - Redondo
    MC - Davids
    MC - Seedorf
    WFR - Figo
    WFL - Stoitchkov
    ST - Ronaldo

    Using 4-2-3-1:

    GK - Schmeichel
    DR - Cafu
    DL - R.Carlos
    DC - Thuram
    DC - Desailly
    MC - Redondo
    MC - Keane
    AMR - Figo
    AMC - Zidane
    AML - Giggs
    ST - Ronaldo
     
  23. Thomas T.

    Thomas T. Member

    Jul 24, 2011
    Hamburg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    When all-time greats are discussed, players from small nations are often not given the respect they deserve because their national team was not good enough for them to shine more often at the latter stages of ECs or WCs. Gheorghe Hagi, Michael Laudrup and Stoitchkov are such players.
     
  24. Perú FC

    Perú FC Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Lima, Perú
    Peter Schmeichel

    ---- Cafú ---- Jürgen Kohler -- Marcel Desailly -- Paolo Maldini

    Matthias Sammer

    --- Luís Figo ------ Zinedine Zidane ---- Roberto Baggio

    Romário ----- Ronaldo​

    Substitutes

    - Oliver Kahn
    - Lilian Thuram
    - Ronald Koeman
    - Javier Zanetti
    - Roberto Carlos
    - Fernando Redondo
    - Michael Laudrup
    - Rivaldo
    - Ryan Giggs
    - Dennis Bergkamp
    - Gabriel Batistuta

    * Franco Baresi, Frank Rijkaard and Lothar Matthäus weren't only because their highest peak is divided between 80's and 90's.
     
  25. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Why would you put Sammer above Redondo? Also, Koeman is far better than Desailly to be his sub.
     

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