Round: 2nd Venue: Camp Nou, Barcelona Rules: 90 minutes, followed if necessary by extra-time (original rules with multiple goals possible in 30 minutes) and then if the scores are still tied a penalty shoot-out * Note - If you think the game will go to extra-time please choose that option (at the bottom end of the poll) and then you can say what you would choose for the score at full-time in normal time/90 minutes in the thread, as well as give details of how you'd see extra-time going Line-ups: (diagrams in following posts) Real Madrid 01-02 - Iker Casillas; Michel Salgado, Fernando Hierro, Ivan Helguera, Roberto Carlos; Claude Makelele; Luis Figo, Zinedine Zidane, Santiago Solari; Fernando Morientes, Raul. Real Madrid 13-14 - Iker Casillas; Dani Carvajal, Raphael Varane, Sergio Ramos, Marcelo; Luka Modric, Xabi Alonso, Angel Di Maria; Gareth Bale, Karim Benzema, Cristiano Ronaldo. Voting deadline - 9th May 2015 (1 week from now) Main thread: http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/1989-2014-fantasy-world-club-cup.2012816/page-22 Feel free to discuss the match and how you think it would play out, and then after you vote for a scoreline feel free to provide reasoning. If considering substitutions, please check the players were at the club in the relevant season and then you are free to consider 3 substitutions selected from the whole squad for each team, in the scenario you envisage
Another interesting match up this one. The 13/14 team had marginally better results in their CL campaign, having only 1D and 1L in 13 games to the 01/02 team's 3Ds and 2Ls in 17 games. But in games against top opponents, like the wins vs Bayern Munich, the 13/14 team had to remain reactive (concentrating on defence and counter attacks) as opposed to being proactive and controlling the game. The 01/02 team did not need to fall back on such tactics (although it can be argued that it never faced a team quite as good as itself, but that in itself might be considered to be proof of that team's strength). Furthermore, if one looks at the teams in depth, the attack looks better for the 13/14 team, the midfield for the 01/02 team while the defence looks about equal on both. The only major difference in quality seems to be in the gk department, where Casillas 01/02 can be considered to be some ways ahead of his older self and I think, in the bench, where the 13/14 team don't have anyone comparable to the 01/02 team's Mcmanaman (Isco from last year is comparable in quality to Guti of 01/02 and Jese to Portillo IMO), who as an experienced and skillful player could come on and change the game significantly (defensively the 13/14 team has a better bench with Pepe while the 01/02 team has Pavon, but these players would rarely act as game changers unless a starting defender happens to get injured). Thus I see the 01/02 team controlling the game and going ahead early by exploiting the aerial ball weakness of the 13/14 team's Casillas, but being hit either on the counter or on a corner/freekick to concede themselves. They however should have enough quality to sneak in a winner later on with the 01/02 Casillas denying the 13/14 front three from getting another equaliser. Thus 2-1 to the 01/02 team.
Having commented on other games I'll just bump this new thread back to the top in case it helps get more votes.
I'll go into further detail at a later time, but having added my vote now I'll say that I decided on the 2013/14 team just to edge it 3-2 with a goal in extra-time after it ends 2-2 after 90 minutes.
Despite the hostile crowd at Camp Nou, Real Madrid wins in extra time Due to a Casillas blooper... the older one
Like the post msioux - I'm thinking the ground is mainly filled with Real Madrid fans who are there to see plenty of goals! But a few Barca fans probably would gain entry, and bring a radio to see how the Barcelona 08-09 vs Barcelona 93-94 match is developing in Madrid (I thought we should have proper neutral grounds in the end, rather than two teams both in their home stadium). So, you have got the older Real Madrid side winning, due to the older Casillas making an error to decide it. I could see that happening. I wonder if the younger Casillas would go and console himself?!
I didn't notice that Barca I vs Barca II is coming In this one, it will be nice to see some "old fellas" taking to the stadium to their nephews to support the old team, just to see them jump like crazy and shouting the goal scored for the new Galacticos.
This is the other game I needed to expand on re: my thoughts: - Due to the unique nature of a same club match, I think the atmosphere would encourage both teams to attack often and I think both teams can carve out some good chances throughout. However I could see the first half even going goalless, as both teams have a few close efforts but don't break through. Even if so though I guess they'd come out and get some goals sooner or later after half-time. - Figo, and perhaps Solari too, would probably be needed in terms of coming to help slightly more centrally with closing down and also providing options for a pass. Makelele would provide cover for the defence but occasionally I would think Modric and Di Maria might give him too much work and manage to bring the ball forwards and pick out forward players in good positions. But I do think the 01-02 team in possession can retain the ball well themselves and Zidane would surely be central to that, as well probably making inroads towards the 2013-2014 team's box. I wouldn't think the 01-02 build-up should be too disrupted by the 13-14 midfield, but when they get possession themselves the modern midfield would be able to play quite freely and progressively too I should think. - There is plenty of class in the 13-14 team, and although on paper I'd say even more in the 01-02 team I don't think their form is quite so optimum and age might go against some of their best players as the game wears on too. - I think this type of all Real game might be one in which Cristiano Ronaldo did have an effect on the scoreline once or twice, even though it could seem at times like he is being overshadowed when the 01-02 team do get on top. Maybe an individual goal, or maybe an assist after some interplay with team-mates down the wing or in an inside channel. - I'm thinking it could seem like Real 01-02 have taken the game away from the 13-14 side as the second half draws on, after getting in front, and classily taking over the bulk of possession, but that they might concede as the 13-14 side manage to get more of the ball and put pressure on the 01-02 defence again. Then Real 13-14 might have the momentum and greater energy to get that winner for 3-2 in extra-time.
This game is deemed to go to extra-time since the votes for Real Madrid 01-02 to win in 90 minutes did not total 50%. I think it's an obvious and fair call to use the popular 2-1 scoreline as the result after extra-time though. Result Real Madrid 01-02 2-1 Real Madrid 13-14 (after extra-time - 1-1 after 90 minutes)