1960's: Decade All Star Lineup

Discussion in 'Players & Legends' started by leszek-antonio, Dec 12, 2011.

  1. leszek-antonio

    Mar 16, 2008
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    Lets go back to the 1960's. This was the time of Pele and others. Infact, it was a decade of true soccer legends. Lets focus on a time period between 1958-1970. This period surely illustrated the best of the 1960's. Three Great Brazilian Teams of 58, 62 and 70. An England World Cup winning team of 66. How about the "Great Inter" team of the early-mid 60's. And finally the Man Utd of 67-69. Lets look at a balanced and legendary 1960's Decade All Star Lineup:

    Formation Used: 4-3-3

    Yashin- Facchetti, Moore, Djalama Santos, Carlos Alberto- Gerson, Suarez-Charlton- Garrinchia, Pele, Best

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    GOALKEEPER

    1. LEV YASHIN (USSR)

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    LEFT BACK

    2. GIACINTO FACCHETTI (ITALY)

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    CENTER BACK

    5. BOBBY MOORE (ENGLAND)

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    CENTER BACK (He played both CB and RB)

    4. DJALAMA SANTOS (BRAZIL)

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    RIGHT BACK

    3. CARLOS ALBERTO (BRAZIL)

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    CENTER MIDFIELD

    6. LUIS SUAREZ (SPAIN) (He played all CM, AM and FW)


    8. GERSON (BRAZIL)

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ATTACKING MIDFIELD

    17. BOBBY CHARLTON (ENGLAND)

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    LEFT WING

    7. GEORGE BEST (NORTHERN IRELAND)

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    CENTER FORWARD

    10. PELE (BRAZIL)

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    RIGHT WING

    11. GARRINCHIA (BRAZIL)

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    BENCH: EUSEBIO (CF) (PORTUGAL), DZAIJC (LW) (YUGOSLAVIA), JAIRZINHO (RW) (BRAZIL), RIVIERIA (AM) (ITALY), BURGNICH (RB) (ITALY), BECKENBAUER (CB) (WEST GERMANY), BANKS (G) (ENGLAND).

    I HAVE TO SAY.... FANTASTIC SQUAD !!! :cool:
     
  2. Perú FC

    Perú FC Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Lima, Perú
    Why do you think Djalma Santos played as centre-back?, I don't remember him any single time playing there. On the other hand, Carlos Alberto played as centre-back during his spell in New York Cosmos but just only during the late 70's.
     
  3. mwjppgr

    mwjppgr Member

    Dec 23, 2008
    Montevideo
    Club:
    CA Peñarol
    Nat'l Team:
    Uruguay
    1960's: Decade All-Southamerican Champions

    1960: Peñarol Champion of the Copa Libertadores
    1961: Peñarol Champion of the Copa Libertadores
    1961: Peñarol Champion of the Copa Intercontinental
    1962: Brazil Winner of the World Cup
    1962: Santos Champion of the Copa Libertadores
    1962: Santos Champion of the Copa Intercontinental
    1963: Santos Champion of the Copa Libertadores
    1963: Santos Champion of the Copa Intercontinental
    1963: Bolivia Winner of the Copa America
    1964: Independiente Champion of the Copa Libertadores
    1965: Independiente Champion of the Copa Libertadores
    1966: Peñarol Champion of the Copa Libertadores
    1966: Peñarol Champion of the Copa Intercontinental
    1967: Uruguay Winner of the Copa America
    1967: Racing Club Champion of the Copa Libertadores
    1967: Racing Club Champion of the Copa Intercontinental
    1968: Estudiantes de La Plata Champion of the Copa Libertadores
    1968: Estudiantes de La Plata Champion of the Copa Intercontinental
    1969: Estudiantes de La Plata Champion of the Copa Libertadores

    Total:

    Argentina 7 titles
    Uruguay 6
    Brazil 5
    Bolivia 1

    Here are some of uruguayan soccer players who stood out in that decade: Ladislao Mazurkiewicz, Néstor Goncálvez, Roberto Matosas, Luis Cubilla, Julio César Abbadie, Pablo Forlán, Emilio Álvarez, Pedro Virgilio Rocha, etc, etc, etc, ...
     
  4. leszek-antonio

    Mar 16, 2008
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    Djalma Santos did play as a CB at the start of his career. He then transfered to RB. Carlos Alberto also played CB, but then again in 1970 (most important year for him) he played RB. Either way, Santos was adjusted, however not beyond realism.
     
  5. leszek-antonio

    Mar 16, 2008
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland

    Very good list of players ! With all respect, I don't think any of these names could replace the 1960's All Stars, or even the bench? Do you agree? If not, show me a player. 1950's All Stars would have some Uruguayan players for sure, not so much 60's I think.
     
  6. Perú FC

    Perú FC Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Lima, Perú
    It's not true mate, when Djalma Santos debuted with Brazil in the early 50's he didn't play as a centre-back, but as a right full-back.

    Since he played in the 1953, 1956 and 1957 editions of the Copa America he played in that role, probably confusing if you read in a tactical drawing that he was part of a 2-men defensive line, but, actually, Brazil at that time had an ultra-offensive style and used the player that in the drawing was the central midfielder as the only centre-back. For example, in the 1953 Copa America that role was played by the Sao Paulo's defensive midfielder José Carlos Bauer, Haroldo was the player who attended behind as "zagueiro" and Djalma played by right more oriented to what is a modern side-back than a centre-back. This tactical style was also used in the 1954 FIFA World Cup being the midfielder Brandaozinho the player who covered the role of the centre-back.

    I know mate, he was mainly a right-back. The reason I mention he also played as centre-back is because if you want to select both of them (Carlos Alberto and Djalma Santos) at the same time by greatness seems me more reasonable to put Carlos Alberto as centre-back because he actually played there in a 4-men defensive line.
     
  7. mwjppgr

    mwjppgr Member

    Dec 23, 2008
    Montevideo
    Club:
    CA Peñarol
    Nat'l Team:
    Uruguay
    1980's: Decade All-Southamerican Champions

    1980: Nacional (URU) Champion of the Copa Libertadores
    1980: Nacional (URU) Champion of the Copa Intercontinental
    1980: Uruguay Champion of World Cup Winners
    1981: Flamengo Champion of the Copa Libertadores
    1981: Flamengo Champion of the Copa Intercontinental
    1982: Peñarol Champion of the Copa Libertadores
    1982: Peñarol Champion of the Copa Intercontinental
    1983: Gremio Champion of the Copa Libertadores
    1983: Gremio Champion of the Copa Intercontinental
    1983: Uruguay Winner of the Copa America
    1984: Independiente Champion of the Copa Libertadores
    1984: Independiente Champion of the Copa Intercontinental
    1985: Argentinos Juniors Champion of the Copa Libertadores
    1986: Argentina Winner of the World Cup
    1986: River Plate Champion of the Copa Libertadores
    1986: River Plate Champion of the Copa Intercontinental
    1987: Peñarol Champion of the Copa Libertadores
    1987: Uruguay Winner of the Copa America
    1988: Nacional (URU) Champion of the Copa Libertadores
    1988: Nacional (URU) Champion of the Copa Intercontinental
    1989: Nacional (COL) Champion of the Copa Libertadores
    1989: Brazil Winner of the Copa America

    Total:

    Uruguay 10 titles
    Argentina 6
    Brazil 5
    Colombia 1

    Here are some of uruguayan soccer players who stood out in that decade: Rodolfo Rodríguez, Hugo De León, Darío Pereyra, Fernando Morena, Rubén Paz, Jorge Da Silva, Enzo Francescoli, Antonio Alzamendi, Carlos Aguilera, Pablo Bengoechea, Ruben Sosa, etc, etc, etc, ...
    ...
     
  8. leszek-antonio

    Mar 16, 2008
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    Good tactical info. Yeah, I want both of them on my 1960's defensive line. They just simply cannot be left out. I am happy there is a way to put them together.
     
  9. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    Both C.Alberto and D.Santos were able to play as either RB or CB. Alberto was a bit better in attack on the flank though. D.Santos was like Thuram a very solid DF and reliable.
     
  10. leszek-antonio

    Mar 16, 2008
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    Yes he was. I just finished watching the 1970 World Cup Final and I noticed that C. Alberto on that flank was probably the man of the match.
     
  11. Perú FC

    Perú FC Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Lima, Perú
    Starting Lineup:

    YASHIN

    ---- MOORE ----- SCHNELLINGER
    - D. SANTOS ---------------------------------- FACCHETTI
    MACKAY

    CHARLTON -------- SUÁREZ -

    GARRINCHA ------------ PELÉ -------------- BEST ----


    Substitutes:

    - BANKS, Gordon (England)
    - GILMAR (Brazil)
    - VASOVIC, Velibor (Yugoslavia)
    - CARLOS ALBERTO (Brazil)
    - MARZOLINI, Silvio (Argentina)
    - ZITO (Brazil)
    - GÉRSON (Brazil)
    - MASOPUST, Josef (Czechoslovakia)
    - RIVERA, Gianni (Italy)
    - SÍVORI, Omar (Argentina)
    - DZAJIC, Dragan (Yugoslavia)
    - EUSÉBIO (Portugal)
    - SEELER, Uwe (Germany)
     
  12. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Yashin
    D Santos-Moore-Marzolini-Fachetti
    Best-Charlton-Dzaijc
    Pele
    Garrincha-Eusebio

    Mazurkewic and Rocha would be on an all-decade squad.
     
  13. burco

    burco New Member

    Apr 10, 2011
    Didn't Carlos Alberto play as a CB with Santos too?!
     
  14. burco

    burco New Member

    Apr 10, 2011
    Ahh the 60's, arguably the golden age of football. This my 60's team (bolded names are untouchable):


    ------------------------Yashin

    ---D.Santos---Carlos Alberto----Moore------Facchetti


    -------------Mackay----------Luis Suarez


    ---Garrincha-------Pele--------Eusebio-------Best



    2nd team:

    ------------------Banks/Mazurkiewiczs

    ------Marzolini----Perfumo---Vasovic----Schnellinger

    ------------Zito/Stiles-----Rivera/Gerson

    Omar Sivori---Charlton/Pedro Rocha---Spencer/Greaves/Law---Dzajic
     
  15. Perú FC

    Perú FC Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Lima, Perú
    I don't think so mate (maybe just only sporadically).

    In 1974 (during his last months with Santos) he got a persistent injury knee that kept him inactive and made him miss the FIFA World Cup that year. When he returned he had been transferred to Fluminense and just only there he was converted in a regular centre-back because he lost his dynamic to move by the band after recovery.

    He started to play as centre-back in 1975 playing for Fluminense exploiting his ability to read the game, there he had still a very good period being part of the team called "A Máquina Tricolor" and won twice the Campeonato Carioca.
     
  16. Perú FC

    Perú FC Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Lima, Perú
    I could be wrong but I think Marzolini never played as right-back, with the exception of some emergency. He was a close left-footed who played as left-back.

    Also as a replacement for Zito I'd appoint to Voronin and Rattín in a second lineup.
     
  17. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    First, i agree that Carlos Alberto could be selected as RB or CB, but in this last one role, he only get 1 international-class season, and that's is said too much.

    About Djalma Santos, i agree that he only played as Right Back in a 3 backline (53-57: Brazil using mostly WM) and in a 4 backline (58-66: Brazil using mostly 4-2-4).


    BTW, in the mid 50s, the centerback in the Selecao was Pinheiro (same generation of Mauro & Bellini, i also read old articles considering Pinheiro as best CB -in skillset i though- than the other two) and the lateral defenders were Djalma & Nilton Santos, in a 3-men deffensive line. They were starters in the Copa America 1953 & the World Cup 1954 :)
     
  18. Perú FC

    Perú FC Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Lima, Perú
    I know mate, the mention it's only to support the idea how would be more reasonable to put Carlos Alberto as centre-back than Djalma Santos.

    How do you draw the Brazilian lineup for the 1953 Copa America and the 1954 FIFA World Cup mate?
     
  19. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    From my mind and drawing a WM system, it would be:

    ------------ Castilho
    D.Santos ----- Pinheiro ----- N.Santos
    ----- Bauer ------ Brandaozinho
    ------- Didi ---------- Pinha
    Julinho ----- Baltazar ----- Rodrigues
     
  20. Perú FC

    Perú FC Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Lima, Perú
    Are you sure mate? What I know about their lineups is that in the 1953 Copa America Bauer and Brandaozinho played together just only in the final match because an injury of Danilo Alvim and Zizinho was still playing as right inside-forward. Also that they was using an atypical 2-3-5 / 3-2-5 tactical system putting to Nílton Santos as left wing-half. Something like this:


    CASTILHO

    D. SANTOS ------------------ PINHEIRO
    BAUER

    - D. ALVIM ------------------- N. SANTOS


    ZIZINHO -------- PINGA -
    -- JULINHO --------- BALTAZAR -------- RODRIGUES


    Then, they had started to use the 3-2-2-3 system to the 1954 FIFA World Cup already with Nílton Santos as left full-back, Didí as right inside-forward, but Brandaozinho as centre-back between him and Djalma Santos and Pinheiro alongside Bauer in the midfield.
     
  21. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    According this link
    http://www.rsssfbrasil.com/sel/brazil195356.htm

    There was no clear starter between Danilo / Brandaozinho and between Didi / Zizinho, even Ipojucan played various matches instead Baltazar in that Copa America.

    In the forward line, i agree with you in the tactical system.
    BTW, how can you put the G in the #10 name, because my post was banned for a bad word :p


    In the backline, i'm sure that Pinheiro was the centerback, all sources & articles i read said that.
    http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/João_Carlos_Batista_Pinheiro

    At that time, all SA teams used 3-2-5 (WM system), also Peru did. Maybe Uruguay don't, but i'm not so sure about their tactic in 1953.

    Danilo was clearly a Centerhalf in the classical mould of the Pyramid System. Most South American teams, still tried to remain that role (Pipo Rossi is a good example) and to help him in midfield job, the #5 had a free role mid as a partner, i mean someone who run more than anybody and cover their partners.

    So, in that Copa America the partnership was: Bauer - Danilo (Brandaozinho)
     
  22. Perú FC

    Perú FC Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Lima, Perú
    An old trick, test it quoting this message: PINGA

    It's funny in an English forum :D.

    I know mate, sounds logical because Pinheiro was a centre-back and Danilo Alvim a centre-half, but somewhere I read the disorder of the tactical system of Brazil there. Check how are represented the Brazilian lineups here: http://www.rsssf.com/tables/53safull.html
     
  23. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    que buena!!!!!!!!!
    :D :p

    I also see something similar in the brazilian list of intl. matches at RSSSF.

    But is obvious for me that the inclusion of "-" drawing the system was wrongly used. Mainly because any NT used more 2-3-5 w/exception of Uruguay.

    The correct way would be put "-" a one player after, i mean after the third player listed (excluding GK).

    The exceptions are Paraguay & Chile NT (Gavilan & Cortes were clearly DM) and of course Uruguay (the only one who used 2-3-5)

    Source: Peruvian newspaper, La Prensa from 1953 (National Library)
     
  24. JGGott

    JGGott Member

    Nov 10, 2012
    I think Nílton Santos and Didi are more 50s players than 60s, aren't they?

    This is my squad - still just a draft (haven't given it any hard thoughts yet):

    DEFENSE
    1) GK: Lev Yashin/Gordon Banks
    2) RB: Djalma Santos/Carlos Alberto Torres
    3) CB: Bobby Moore
    4) CB: ?
    6) LB: Giacinto Fachetti/Silvio Marzolini

    MIDFIELD
    5) DM: Zito/Piazza
    8) CM: Gérson/Ademir da Guia
    11) AM: Rivellino/Charlton/Dirceu Lopes
    10) AM: Pelé/George Best

    ATTACK
    7) Garrincha/Tostão
    9) ST: Eusébio/Coutinho/Vavá



    Sorry, mates.... but the 60s were the Brazilian Golden Era of football - 70 to 80% of such squad would have to be formed by Brazilian players necessarily.
     
  25. JGGott

    JGGott Member

    Nov 10, 2012

    I forgot Jairzinho, Pedro Rocha and I'm sure MANY other players. LOL!... =(
     

Share This Page