18 teams for next season

Discussion in 'Mexico' started by AMEPUNKANIST, Apr 5, 2004.

  1. AMEPUNKANIST

    AMEPUNKANIST Member+

    Dec 16, 2003
    Club:
    America Propria
    Could this happen?.The LIGA Mexicana reducing the league to 18 teams instead of 20.
     
  2. Deleted USer

    Deleted USer Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    i dont know why... but the FMF said it will go from 20 to 19 to 18...

    but in a press conference late last year.. they stated that they did make a mistake expanding to 20 teams...

    the 20-19-18 approach is not 100%.. but thats how it will go most likely..
     
  3. Coster

    Coster Member

    Apr 21, 2003
    Hermosa Beach
    What's wrong with having 20 teams?
     
  4. Levante

    Levante Member+

    Jul 28, 2001
    I don't know.......... the 20 team format works well. Look at all the exciting games this weekend. Puebla vs. Irapuato was exciting. Jaguares came back vs. a struggling but charged up San Luis.
     
  5. Coster

    Coster Member

    Apr 21, 2003
    Hermosa Beach
    The only reason I see for this is to shorten the regular season to give more rest for the players. If this were to happen how would the scheduling, groups, etc. work?
     
  6. Deleted USer

    Deleted USer Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Not to knock on Cabanas or Didis of the MFL, but those are usualy one hit wonders.. We need to eliminate the one hit wonders.

    I think going to 18 teams will make the league more competitive. The reduction of foreigners will also allow for teams to get foriegn players that actually produce. Im tired of having foreign players with 2-4 goals a season. Its beyond me that you have a young Mexican player on the bench over a foreign player that only rakes up 2-5 goals a season.

    I know you ask how is eliminating 2 teams going to help.. wont it take away jobs.. welll.. yess... but it wont be diluted...

    Also, 17 games rather than 19 games can make a world of difference to a players performance. it will decongest the calender. Players will have more time to recover.

    I did the math in another thread a while back..

    20-1=19 teams (chivas factor) 5 foreigners/club
    19x5=95 foreigners on the field
    +/- 1,2,3 (DF factor) = 94,93,92 foreigners on the field

    18-1=17 teams (chivas factor) 4 foreigners/club
    17x4=68 foreigners on the field
    +/- 1,2,3 (DF factor) = 67,66,65 foreigners on the field

    95-68 = 27 less foreigners

    18 more slots for mexican players ..

    there are many ways too look at it....

    22 less positions (taking away 2 clubs)

    10 less foreigners on the field
    12 less mexicans on the field..

    the way i look at it.. 18 more mexican slots for mexican players.
    more concentrated rather than diluted product.
     
  7. Coster

    Coster Member

    Apr 21, 2003
    Hermosa Beach
    I think you guys go way overboard in your crying about foreigners over Mexican players.
     
  8. AMEPUNKANIST

    AMEPUNKANIST Member+

    Dec 16, 2003
    Club:
    America Propria
    Theres also the possibility of reducing foreigners to 4 plus 1 naturalized per team.
     
  9. AMEPUNKANIST

    AMEPUNKANIST Member+

    Dec 16, 2003
    Club:
    America Propria
  10. lond2345

    lond2345 Member

    Aug 19, 2002
    USA
    If they FMF is so worried about the condition of the players why don't they make more night games? why don't they order Jaguares/Veracruz to get some lights and use them? some of the 2 teams with the hottest climates.

    the quality of play is better at night. Do this if you are worried about players getting tired. Keep the 20 teams.
     
  11. So, two will decend or none is going to get promoted?
     
  12. Don Boppero 3000

    Don Boppero 3000 DNALMQNLGLLMX!

    Jan 15, 2001
    National Museum of Mexican Art
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I wish it was not a big deal, but at the moment it is. Take a look at the goal leaders list.
     
  13. Hecho en Mexico

    Hecho en Mexico Member+

    Mar 22, 2002
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    how bout the 20 and 19 decend and 18 and 17 fight for a place in the first division agains the 2 primera a teams in a year/season to be decided?
     
  14. Coster

    Coster Member

    Apr 21, 2003
    Hermosa Beach
    Are there still Mexican players in this league? Yes. Are there Mexican strikers in this league? yes. So basically what you're telling me is that they are not as good as the strikers in the league that come from the rest of the world. To be the best you have to play with the best. Playing in a league with a lot of talent will only force everyone else to raise their playing level. If foreigners are taking their spots that just means that they are not good enough to compete. What makes good people great, IN ANYTHING, is competition. Like I said, it forces them to raise their game. Also its funny how some of you say that we should send some of our top players overseas, yet don't want any foreigners playing in the Mexican league. It works both ways.
     
  15. nergserg

    nergserg Member

    Jan 15, 2004
    SoCal
    I think I was watching La Jugada last night and they brought up a good point. If you want to develop good young players then only allow foreigners at the Primera division and not the lower divisions. Afterall, its the lower divisions that are suppose to be the farm system for future players.

    I agree with this point. Develop yourself at the lower levels and compete for a starting job at the Primara division. Survival of the fittest.

    I do enjoy having 20 teams though.
     
  16. Rusty_Shackleford

    Mar 24, 2004
    I totally agree. A lot of people like to say that the Mexican national team will suffer because of all the extranjeros, but I think it would be quite the opposite. Look at how many foreigners play in the top leagues of Europe-Spain, Italy and England.
     
  17. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    GOALS BY NATIONALITY:

    Total goals after 13 weeks: 389

    Mexico- 165 (42.4%)
    Naturalized- 5 (1.3%)

    Players from other countries:
    Argentina- 85 (21.9%)
    Brazil- 38 (9.8%)
    Uruguay- 28 (7.2%)
    Chile- 24 (6.2%)
    Paraguay- 19 (4.9%)
    Colombia- 7 (1.8%)
    Honduras- 7 (1.8%)
    Ecuador- 4 (1.0%)
    Venezuela- 4 (1.0%)
    Peru- 0

    For last week's record-breaking 50 goals:
    Mexico- 23 (46%)
    Argentina- 10 (20%)
    Chile- 7 (14%)
    Paraguay- 4 (8%)
    Brazil- 3 (6%)
    Naturalized Mexicans, Uruguay, Colombia- 1 each
     
  18. El Guero Naco

    El Guero Naco New Member

    Sep 1, 2003
    Atlanta, GA
    The reason they're moving to 18 teams is because last year FIFA said that domestic leagues shouldn't have more than 18 teams, so basically everybody is going to get into gear.
     
  19. Ricky_DCU

    Ricky_DCU New Member

    Feb 1, 2001
    Somerville, MA
    I could be wrong, but I think Blatter actually said 16 teams.

    As for foreigners blocking the development of Mexican talent, I think not allowing foreigners in the lower divisions makes a lot of sense.

    I'm curious as to what the rules about naturalized Mexicans are? In MLS, once you get a green card (not even citizenship) you no longer count against a team's limit on foreign players. Is the situation similar in Mexico?
     

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