News: 115 Charges - The Other Teams Thread [R]

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  1. CybrSlydr

    CybrSlydr Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Jun 30, 2013
    Casper, WY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ********ing hell. They're going to get off scott-free, aren't they?

    The death of football.
     
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  2. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Lots of spin - both claiming victory as some judgements in favour of either side.

    Also not the main case, just City taking a few successful potshots at the foundations of the EPL case.

    Shows what we all know anyway - highly paid lawyers vs incompetent football body leaves plenty of room for getting off on legal technicalities. Some mud will stick but whether enough and even then what done about it remains to be seen.

    The article on the beeb a bit more balanced. Think we all know where this is likely headed anywho.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cq5eyvl7nggo
     
  3. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    https://www.skysports.com/football/...n-by-fifa-for-racially-abusing-wolves-forward

    better than a fine
     
  4. CybrSlydr

    CybrSlydr Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Jun 30, 2013
    Casper, WY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How long until yelling someone sucks is abuse and worthy of arrest?...
     
  5. SF19

    SF19 Member+

    Jun 8, 2013
    Sucks is a great word, tho. If that became an arrestable offense, that would literally suck dick.
     
  6. thefly

    thefly Member

    Aug 9, 2007
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
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  7. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    https://www.skysports.com/football/...-latest-on-deals-signings-loans-and-contracts

    coincidence or possibly related to the 115 case?
     
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  8. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    our clubs are working together on this, so I'm just just dropping by to share this.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league-civil-war-man-city-court-b2626264.html

    The Premier League has descended into open civil war, with over half the clubs stunned by the nature of Manchester City's email following the judgment on their case against the competition's Associated Party Transactions. Some executives are particularly annoyed by threats of further legal action, and the situation has been described by numerous sources as "seriously escalating" ahead of next Thursday's meeting.

    City's general counsel, Simon Cliff, wrote in an email to all 19 clubs that the Premier League's 1,200-word summary of the judgment was "misleading" with "inaccuracies", while stating that City's "position is that this means that all of the APT rules are void, and have been since 2021".

    The Premier League's legal advice is that this is absolutely not the case, and the rules can be easily and quickly amended through forthcoming meetings, starting next Thursday. There, the clubs will discuss three potential changes to the laws. The mood is expected to be extremely tense, especially with City strongly resisting any attempt to push changes through in what they would see as a "knee-jerk" way.

    Cliff's email added: “Such an unwise course would be likely to lead to further legal proceedings with further legal costs. It is critical for member clubs to feel that they can have trust in their regulator.”
     
  9. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
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  10. thefly

    thefly Member

    Aug 9, 2007
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Feels like it and Txiki leaving is a big one
     
  11. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    When it becomes racist?
     
  12. CybrSlydr

    CybrSlydr Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Jun 30, 2013
    Casper, WY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why is insulting someone over their race worse than insulting them over their perceived lack of ability in a situation?
     
  13. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Huh?

    You can work on your ability, you cant change your race [if one wanted to]. Thats just one of many reasons that should be common sense to a human.
     
  14. Chaz Striker

    Chaz Striker Member+

    Jul 26, 2005
    Denver
    Also, no one has been genocided because they suck at soccer….
     
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  15. CybrSlydr

    CybrSlydr Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Jun 30, 2013
    Casper, WY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But you're still insulting - why is one acceptable but the other isn't?

    I thought hate is hate is hate and none of it should be acceptable?
     
  16. CybrSlydr

    CybrSlydr Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Jun 30, 2013
    Casper, WY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Genocide, no - but they certainly have been murdered for poor performance, no?
     
  17. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Yeah the Colombian centre back in 94 that passed to a striker

    Alan Hansen said he should be shot for that defending, and was
     
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  18. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Because one is racism and the other is not. Are you that fcuking dense?
     
  19. CybrSlydr

    CybrSlydr Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Jun 30, 2013
    Casper, WY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So hate directed at individuals is ok but hate directed at racial groups isn't.

    Got it.
     
  20. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    three lions. yikes.

    Pavlidis might be the closest thing Greece has had to a proper striker/goal scorer since Gekas
     
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  21. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Didn't watch it, but was a pretty damning write-up of Carsley tactics on the BBC.

    On the one hand you could argue that the Nations League which replaced friendlies is the place to try things. However on the other hand it is clear that a team (and especially a national team where you don't get time with the players) needs a fairly traditional shape and structure - especially in the middle of the pitch.

    Plus anyone who watched England fail recently could see that Bellingham / Foden / Kane were tripping over each other as all trying to play in the same area. This just seems to be repeating that same mistake.

    Sigh ...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/live/cdjenmld0p1t
     
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  22. Holy__Joe

    Holy__Joe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 31, 2007
    Manchester
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    He's not even first choice funnily enough, Fotis Ioannidis missed out through injury. Lots of teams were pushing for him in the summer (Sporting, Girona, Ipswich) but all offers of approx 24m were rebuffed.

    Was a shame he missed this match through injury
     
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  23. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    You're equating saying you suck to a player with a racist comment directed at a player. If you cannot see the difference, nothing more needs to be said.

    Fin.
     
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  24. SF19

    SF19 Member+

    Jun 8, 2013
    England need a new manager. Can't believe my sucky Greece won. Didn't even watch thinking we'd get our asses handed.
     
  25. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    racism is worse than anything else

    Especially when white to black people, due to you know, slavery and destroying peoples culture and lineage over a 200 year period?
     

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