11 Yanks Rumor: "Dream List" coaches (plural) have expressed interest

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  1. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001


    There's more at the link, including noting these are still a ways off due to contract details and lifestyle change, etc.

    11 Yanks Pete's source has also said that Crocker can spend up into the high seven figures. Which would make us competitive for every coach that isn't named Pep. That's a little exagerated. But let's say $8.2 million. That would be $1.2 million more than the new Liverpool coach's base salary (He gets more in incentives, etc.). That would be $2.5 million more than the base the FA paid Southgate.

    If that number is true, then we're really aiming high. Because we're not paying that kind of dollar figure to Renard, Henry, or Vieira. But you know, it seems like it's one source.

    I was wondering who would be on a Dream List. I figure:
    Pep
    Klopp
    Mourinho
    Ancelotti
    Zidane

    Then maybe:
    Tuchel
    Poch
    Low

    And maybe two of:
    Xavi
    Bielsa
    Wenger
    Van Gaal
    Conte
    Scaloni
    Deschamps
     
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  2. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Respectfully this is not a particularly credible source. He may have heard something through the grapevine through the agent rumor mill but I take things with far more credence from Fabrizio Romano that they are keeping the search very buttoned up and there’s not much out there in terms of news.
     
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  3. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Rumor is it going to be Matarazzo.

     
  4. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    He would be an improvement. Not a dream list candidate.
     
  5. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    I'd put him in the wait and see category. I think there could be enough there if the stars align it could go pretty well. Not expecting anything and just grasping for a reason to care.
     
  6. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    The best club record of any American in a top league. He would be a very good and popular choice for 2027. But for 2026, I have been hoping for a little more wow.
     
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  7. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    I guess that was fun while it lasted.

     
  8. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
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    Uh oh, ‘dolo door might not be shut.
     
  9. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    As I pointed out elsewhere, the Matarazzo doesn't leaves a little wiggle room. He never says I'm staying. But it's not an enthusiastic acceptance, either.
     
  10. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    OK, which one of you is Noah Riffe? Wild comments.

     
  11. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    How many of these do we have to go through before they give the job to Cherundolo?

     
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  12. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Hahaha... the real news.

     
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  13. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    Poch is one of the top 10ish coaches in the game right now. He'd be a huge signing.

    As an Arsenal fan, I used to marvel at how elegant his Spurscteams played.

    Some posters who have been advocating for Renard or MLS coaches are ragging on Poch. What are they thinking? If you have a chance to get a top caliber coach, you should do it. Unless after a rd of q6 exit we want to wonder what could have been.
     
  14. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    Also, we should stop worrying about what could go wrong and start thinking about what could go right.
     
  15. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan Member+

    Jul 6, 2006
    poch would look at this team and start crying he wouldn't be able to play the way he wants to.

    renard is used to garbage and trying to get results that is what the us needs.
     
  16. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    If we can't get a top coach, my backup is Henry. The MLS fans have convinced me our players aren't good enough for a deep run (after claiming all those crap MLS players were good enough for the USMNT), so I am focusing entertaining soccer, quality mentor for our players, and an intelligent discussion about soccer (our media isn't capable and Berhalter was just trying to sound smart while using corporate doublespeak).

    Edit: he is a backstop well above the MLS guys

     
  17. HScoach13

    HScoach13 Member+

    Nov 30, 2016
    Club:
    Atlanta
    I have higher expectations than Henry. If we have to wait until after September camp to get the right coach I don't have a problem with that.
     
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  18. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Understood. I am just setting a floor. If we can't find someone that meets out short term needs which are especially important with the WC, then we should expand focus to longer term and he is much better than many alternatives thrown out.
     
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  19. HScoach13

    HScoach13 Member+

    Nov 30, 2016
    Club:
    Atlanta
    I just do not see the admiration for Henry the coach. He was not a great success as a club manager. I will grant you that as a player he was great and our players might find him inspiring. His greatest success as a manager was winning at the Olympics with one of the best player pools of the age group in the world. We need a manager that can make us better as a whole than the sum of our parts.
     
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  20. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    Ours is a unique circumstance as well. A coach would have to be regularly briefed by scouts across a broad range of leagues, cultures, and playing styles. This might be an adjustment for some foreign coaches, especially those in Europe.
     
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  21. The Clientele

    The Clientele Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Jun 25, 2005
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’m with you… I just don’t think Henry is innately a great coach.

    Top player? Absolutely.
    USA coach for 2026? I hope not.
     
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  22. zhe fulano

    zhe fulano Member

    Real Madrid
    United States
    Jan 31, 2010
    Florida Keys, USA
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The USMNT player pool is better than in years and decades past. However, let's be honest about the fact that it simply isn't at the same talent level as the top tier nations. IMHO, we need to recognize where we realistically are at and go after a coach that has shown the ability to get the best out of a decent but not exceptional player talent pool. A Diego Simeone or a David Moyes would be a better fit for our player pool than any of the wish list options we've seen - and continue to see - floated.

    Just my 2 cents.
     
  23. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Where is the admiration for Henry as coach?

    We are country that is growing in the game (absent the normal MLS stagnation due to continued interference). As such, i would want a coach to help us win, help grow the game, and build for the future. I normally would want to balance those items at this stage in our countries development. However, a WC at home is different animal. A deep run in the WC would do amazing things for the game in this country and would warrant taking a more win at all cost approach.

    I'd love to get a big time coach, a serial national team coach like Renard or Bora, or a serious coach who has fought in top leagues. Unfortunately, I don't have much faith in our federation securing a guy like that. What I dont want is some crappy coach who thinks they are much smarter than they are. I dont think we have the talent for a semi type run and therefore I would prioritize growing the game and building for the future. Other criteria is dont do anything Berhalter did. Dont overuse MLS players and act like the USMNT is only there to market that silly league. I also don't want to play defensive, boring soccer.

    If we aren't getting a quality coach, we should accept that and change the criteria for the search and expectations. If we are looking for a manager to oversee the team then, I think Henry is the best option out there. This was my view of what we needed last cycle, but we advanced as far as most would have hoped.

    Henry is a big name and known around the world. He carries himself in a way that he would have the locker room from day 1 and not let guys coast. He has been an assistant with Belgium at the WC and Euros. He extremely knowledgeable about the game and many top footballers have spoken about how much he helped them. He was an attacking player and appears to be where he gets the most out if his players. So even if isnt an ideal coach based on whatever criteria people want to use, he would still has relevant experience, could control the team, help players individually, and playing an attacking style.

    BTW, mls coaching experience is irrelevant to me. I doesn't matter to me good or bad, I dont even consider it. As far as I am concerned Cherundolo is a youth coach in Germany.
     
  24. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    I dont think should be an issue for any professional coach. Unfortunately, it appears it wasn't something Berhakter was good at.
     
  25. HScoach13

    HScoach13 Member+

    Nov 30, 2016
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Perhaps admiration is the wrong word but some would be more than happy with him being hired as coach. Charlie Davies was lobbying for it. I don't see it.
     

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