11/12 CCL: Group C (UNAM, Tauro, Dallas, Toronto) [R]

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  1. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Pumas UNAM (Mexico)
    Tauro FC (Panama)
    FC Dallas (USA)
    Toronto FC (Canada)

    Discuss...
     
  2. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    UNAM and Dallas
     
  3. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed.
     
  4. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    x 2
     
  5. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    x 3
     
  6. jcmenal

    jcmenal Member

    May 9, 2011
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    1.- Pumas
    2.- Toronto
    3.- Dallas
    4.- Tauro

    I think Toronto will focus in this tournament rather than the MLS
     
  7. LongDuckDong

    LongDuckDong Member+

    Jan 26, 2011
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dallas' reserves are better than Toronto starting 11.
     
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  8. Petersontj

    Petersontj Member

    Jul 24, 2011
    NYC
    Club:
    Ft Lauderdale Strikers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed.

    I think Dallas is going to take the group, in very RSL-like fashion.

    1 - Dallas
    2 - Pumas
    3 - Toronto
    4 - Tauro

    I also think that Pumas needs to watch out for Toronto, they are only focusing on this now and the last group they had was filled with 3 pretty weak teams.
     
  9. PhantomTollbooth

    PhantomTollbooth New Member

    Jul 20, 2004
    Appleton, WI
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Agreed x4 - Pumas is in great form right now, and Dallas should have enough to outlast the other two teams. If Toronto can pull off another home upset against Pumas (like they did against Cruz Azul lat year, Dallas could win this group.
     
  10. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just for completeness:

    1. Pumas
    2. Dallas
    3. Tauro
    4. Toronto

    Though Toronto will be most focused on this tournament, as they will be out of the playoff chase, and the other 3 teams will have league worries. Still, they may spring as upset, but I still think they finish 4th.
     
  11. chiva_freak

    chiva_freak Member

    May 13, 2010
    Santa Ana, Califas
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    1. Pumas
    2. Dallas
    3. Tauro
    4. Toronto

    UNAM starting off real strong in league this year definetly a contender for this years title
     
  12. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://www.concacaf.com/page/CL/NewsDetail/0,,12813~2414237,00.html

    Wednesday, August 17
    Pumas UNAM (MEX) vs. FC Dallas (USA), 10 p.m.
    Thursday, August 18
    Tauro (PAN) vs. Toronto FC (CAN), 8 p.m.

    Wednesday, August 24
    Toronto FC (CAN) vs. FC Dallas (USA), 8 p.m.
    Thursday, August 25
    Tauro (PAN) vs. Pumas UNAM (MEX), 8 p.m.

    Wednesday, September 14
    FC Dallas (USA) vs. Tauro (PAN), 8 p.m.
    Pumas UNAM (MEX) vs. Toronto FC (CAN), 8 p.m.

    Tuesday, September 20
    Toronto FC (CAN) vs. Tauro (PAN), 8 p.m.
    Wednesday, September 21
    FC Dallas (USA) vs. Pumas UNAM (MEX), 8 p.m.

    Tuesday, September 27
    Toronto FC (CAN) vs. Pumas UNAM (MEX), 8 p.m.
    Wednesday, September 28
    Tauro (PAN) vs. FC Dallas (USA), 8 p.m.

    Tuesday, October 18
    FC Dallas (USA) vs. Toronto FC (CAN), 8 p.m.
    Wednesday, October 19
    Pumas UNAM (MEX) vs. Tauro (PAN), 10 p.m.


    https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24074557&postcount=18
     
  13. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    This is what the group will come down to. Toronto's new European acquisitions are going to be in for quite a shock when they try to run at extreme altitude in the D.F., in extreme heat at Dallas, and in extreme puddles during the Panamanian rainy season.
     
  14. El Washatero

    El Washatero Member+

    Nov 5, 2007
    AP Top 25!
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not that sure Pumas will advance

    C.U. is going to have to be a fortress
     
  15. vichuck

    vichuck Member

    Jul 25, 2008
    New Braunfels
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think people are selling TFC short. They've started to look better recently and as others have said, this is all they have to play for. If they did make the knockout stages, it would probably be at FCD's expense, though, so I'll be hoping y'all are right. It's pretty tough to imagine Pumas not getting through even if they are playing lots of reserves and development players.

    I'm pretty excited about tonight's game (and the return leg in Dallas, which I'll definitely be attending). I predicted 2-1 FCD on our boards and I'll stick with it.
     
  16. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Word out of Dallas is the Ferrieira is hoping for a September return. The return of the MLS MVP would really help Hoops' chances in this group.

    Big game tonight with Pumas hosting FCD.
     
  17. Blitzz Boy

    Blitzz Boy Member

    Apr 4, 2002
    The West Side
    ?

    Am I reading that right? Is Dallas ahead in the Universitario?

    You'd figure that Jorge Campos' former backup would be pretty motivated to take at least a point there. And if Dallas wins or ties, that will be a better result in Mexico City than Jason Kreis' team had.
     
  18. Blitzz Boy

    Blitzz Boy Member

    Apr 4, 2002
    The West Side
    Congratulations to the Hoops.

    First MLS team to win in Mexico, right?
     
  19. vichuck

    vichuck Member

    Jul 25, 2008
    New Braunfels
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1st ever win for an American side in Mexico, club or country. :D
     
  20. Gallade

    Gallade Member

    Oct 24, 2009
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    awesome, Dallas. toughest game of the six and you get a win.

    I'm trying to figure out a logical path that gets the two MLS teams through, but unless Tauro steals points from UNAM and only UNAM, it's going to be tough. Dallas getting all 6 from UNAM + TFC getting 4 + the two MLS teams splitting their home games and getting 6 each from Tauro? 15 for Dallas, 13 for TFC. that seems...unlikely, for us.
     
  21. vichuck

    vichuck Member

    Jul 25, 2008
    New Braunfels
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd love to see TFC make it through (as long as it isn't at FCD's expense), but I agree, it will be tough. Now that tonight has happened, it will be interesting to see how strong of a team Pumas plays against you guys and when they come to The Oven.
     
  22. RSLer

    RSLer Member+

    Sep 24, 2008
    Stansbury Park, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nice, FCD, Nice! Congratulations from all of us!
     
  23. Twix1138

    Twix1138 Member

    Jul 9, 2010
    Maybe Dallas and Toronto can form an alliance so that both of them go through to the knockout stage.

    Not sure how exactly it would work, but if both did well enough, I guess they can just "pass the ball around" when facing each other, and give themselves both a point and deny the other foreign teams entry into the knockout stage. I doubt the people in charge of MLS would complain.


    Funny how I see this competition as a USA vs Mexico thing rather than hoping an individual club wins. First priority is to knock out all the foreign clubs, and then go for the title.
     
  24. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The problem with isn't the logic, but the strength of TFC's squad.

    The key to both MLS teams advancing is taking 6 from Tauro.

    If they each do that:

    Dallas: 9 + Pumas, TFC, @TFC
    TFC: 6 + Pumas, @Pumas, @FCD, FCD
    Pumas: 6 + @FCD, @TFC, TFC
    Tauro = 0 and no games left.

    If TFC takes 4 from Pumas (like they did Cruz Azul last year), then they are in IF they get 1 point against Dallas or Pumas fails to win @FCD.

    IF TFC takes 3 or 2 from Pumas, then TFC will need more from their 2 games with FCD than Pumas gets with 1 game @FCD.

    If TFC takes 1 from Pumas, then they'll need 4 from their Dallas games and a Pumas loss at Dallas.

    If TFC doesn't get points against Pumas, then they need help from Tauro against Pumas.
     
  25. dtid

    dtid Member

    Sep 6, 2010
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    And now, Pumas has learned the veracity of my sig line.
     

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