100% Werder Bremen (summer '07 thread) [R]

omg.....please tell me that did not happen.....shit...

 

Well if it's true than thank god you didn't sell Andreasen.

 

Carlos Alberto is also injured. Torn muscle fiber.

The loss against Paderborn was the 4th in a row. So far we've lost against every professional team that we've played this preseason.

 

how long is HE out!?


so right now we have Owomoyela, Frings, Alberto, and Klasnic out......wow we are in some deep shit

 

Is it really official that he suffered a cruciate ligament injury? If yes, it's a big loss for Werder and the DFB team!

 

No it's not yet.

 

according to Bild.de it is, poor guy

 

It is also according to the Werder homepage:

http://www.werder.de/aktuelles/news/meldung.php?id=11156

I guess we won't see him in 2007. Worst preseason ever.

 

ahhhhhhh so frings is really out for 6 months?!? we're screwed! i'm still waiting on a win... but damn... does that mean werder will be looking to buy a player to cover for frings? or are we done with spending?

 

Frings is by far the best defensive midfielder in the BL.
On the transfer market players of his quality are far too expensive
(only possible move for me would be loaning a player, but that´s also not easy at this quality level)
or are not interested to play for Werder,
because CL from the big 3 want them.

But we have many midfielders in the squad.
For the defensive midfield role there are Andreassen, Baumann and Vranjes.
In right midfield there are Carlos Alberto, Jensen and Andreassen.
Andreassen is a similar player like Frings, not at the same level,
but with potential and he always said, he wants to play,
so now he can show his qualities.

 

hopefully andreassen will show his qualities for bremen. losing frings is quite a loss for the team. how serious is carlos alberto's injury and when would he be fit?

 

That wouldn't make much sense. You can't really replace Frings.
I think Andreasen would have gotten a starting rolepretty often even if Frings injury had not happened. But now he's even more important for the team.
I also think that Jensen will get more playing time.

So the midfield could look like this:

---------Baumann--------
Andreasen------Borowski
----------Diego---------

or more offensively like this:

--------Andreasen-------
C.Alberto--------Borowski
---------Diego-----------

Jensen is the number one replacement for either of those players. I think Vranjes is important because of his versatility but his preseason shape was awful. let's just hope that nobody gets injured anymore.

 

Right now the injury list looks like this:

Daniel Jensen (groin, 4-5 more days)
Patrick Owomoyela (torn tendon on the left back thigh, 2 months)
Aaron Hunt (knee, 1-2 weeks)
Leon Andreasen (strain right calf, 1 week)
Hugo Almeida (injured left ankle, nobody really knows- probably a few months)
Tim Wiese (back problem, a few days)
Petri Pasanen (Achilles tendon, at least 2 weeks)
Ivan Klasnic (kidney transplantation, at least 2 more months but he may never play again professionally)
Thorsten Frings (cruciate ligament, 5 months at least)

 

what about c. alberto?

 

only a minor muscle strain. he'll be able to attend the training session later today.

 

oh that's good then. i got a bit worried there.

well as for werder's friendly match against everton, what do you expect from the team? i know i'm not expecting much...

also, i just wanted to know when naldo and diego will be returning?

 

Man this is bad news for Werder. Even before I thought this could become a hard year for Bremen, after losing Miro. He was so vital for them with his dynamic play, even if the last few months werent as good by him personally. The couple of test matches i saw on tv kinda gave me the feeling i was right. But now after this big blow I think they realy will suffer. Maybe someone shows up at his position now. We will see.

 

In the next days. They got 2 weeks holidays after the Copa.

Against Everton i don´t expect anything. It´s a meaningless test match,
i just hope, that nobody gets injured. Same for the test on friday in Mainz.

 

na, they'd just stick a needle into his knee and take out the swelling that way, that's what they did to my knee four years ago.

now, IF it is a rupture of the anterior cruciate ligament, then depending on the extent of the rupture (as this determines how much of it has to be repaired by borrowing fibre from another part of his leg - back of the knee i think), the inital diagnosis for his rehab period could be up to 6 months.
The ACL does not repair by itself unlike the nearby medial cruciate ligaments.

The operation will be done in a week or so, and then he will start rehab (cycling, swimming, walking, some weights for quads and hamstrings, then playing) and it's then all up to him as to how quickly he will feel comfortable with his knee in a match. Some people are slow and it takes 6-7 months. Others think positively and recover much quicker and he could be back in 3 months even in full playing condition.

It's also not a MUST that he have an operation to repair the ACL. Many athletes play on without it by strenthening the quads and hamstrings to support the knee joint instead. They might wear a brace on the knee as well. Most importantly a strong mind as it depends on what you feel comfortable with. I never had an operation and I can still play the way I played before. Apparently if you have the operation done your knee will be stiffer in general. Without the operation it's loose like it was before.

I got all this info straight from the knee surgeon, at the adidas sports clinic here, who treats the all black players (god forbid should anything happen to an all black ), as that's where I was sent to. He said the only thing that could stop a player from returning soon even when he is ready to himself are doctors who might want to play it safe because he's an expensive athlete. And that athletes really can manage without an operation (which would definitely cut down rehab time), but aren't allowed to by doctors at the clubs themselves because there's a lot of money attached to these players. So since I am an amateur, he advised me to not have it operated on.

So in conclusion, frings could be back in even 3 months if he thinks positively and does his rehab very very well, after his operation. Or if not, then 6 months probably.

While it's a big loss for werder, I am not unhappy that he can get a rest and be fresh for the NT and the euros after having played only a part of the season.

 

He'll "only" miss 7 weeks, he tore his MCL, not the ACL.

http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/artikel/368032/

 

Never mind, Fräulein96's info has changed the situation.

 

well, i enjoyed typing that out anyway

but an MCL should only take 3-4 weeks. Again, that's the club doctors being safe, saying 7 weeks. Anyway I don't mind from an NT perspective. More rest is good. although I sure won't mind if he does come back in 3-4 weeks as he should and plays against england