100 Greatest

Discussion in 'United Soccer Leagues' started by geordieboy, May 23, 2003.

  1. geordieboy

    geordieboy BigSoccer Yellow Card

    May 2, 2003
    Newcastle england
    everyone who has been watching british TV recently or has ever seen VH1 in the UK will have heard of the insane amount of 100 greatest programs on. Well heres a web version for the beutiful game
    I want your top 10 players of all time, This can be based on impact (ie a player who makes a club great single handedly), skill (pele nuff said), achievements (Kahn for getting germany to WC 2002 final). There are many ways to define the worlds greatest player,
    this post will be going up accross the boards.
    I want your top 10 on a private message, when the votes are in i will post every player who has been voted for and there tally's after the 100 list has gone up.
    Heres mine

    1. Diego Maradona
    2. Pele
    3. Franz Beckenbauer
    4. Bobby Moore
    5. Marco Van Basten
    6. Johan Cruyff
    7. Alan Shearer
    8. Brad Friedel
    9. Joe Harvey (Newcastle captain in the 50's)
    10.Eric Cantona
     
  2. ButlerBob

    ButlerBob Member

    Nov 13, 2001
    Evanston, IL
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well since this is the ULS board, I'll give you my top ten players that have playd in the USL. These are in no praticular order.

    1. Chris Armas
    2. Tony Meola
    3. Brian McBride
    4. Tony Sannneh
    5. Carl Valentine - ok so he was past his prime and mostly a coach, but my list.
    6. Paul Conway
    7. Mark Watson
    8. Manny Lagos
    9. Pat Onstead
    10. Nick DeSantis

    And as a Geordie fan I'm surprised you left off Kevin Keegan or Malcolm MacDonald.
     
  3. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How about Mark Baena?
     
  4. sniper

    sniper New Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    New York, NY
    USL Top PLayers

    A few other USL/APSL names come to mind -

    Carlos Llamosa (D)
    Marcus Hahnemann (G)
    Wolde Harris (F)
    Jason Devos (D) - Canadian Nat'l Team
    ...oh yeah, and the former New Orleans striker in the EPL now (can't remember his name!)
     
  5. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: USL Top PLayers

    Stern John!

    Don't forget
    Jason Kreis
    Ezra Hendrickson


    all played for New Orleans.
     
  6. drew_VT_6

    drew_VT_6 Member

    Feb 22, 2000
    Orange County, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: USL Top PLayers

    Stern John?

    Others to add:
    Edson Buddle
    Doug Miller
    Pat Onstad
     
  7. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do you want the best players who ever happened to play in the USL, or the guys who played the best when they were in the USL?

    Because Gabe Jones, former striker for the Austin Lone Stars, would be on the latter list, but maybe not the former, as he never panned out in MLS. But he was a helluva D3 scorer.

    Doug Stebbins, as well.
     
  8. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    If we're counting USL, do we count the leagues they absorbed in the merger like the APSL and WSL. If so, that opens a bunch of very good players.

    From the 1988-1993 era before the USISL really got going and started getting really good US talent:

    Here's a Top Ten list of players from the early part of the APSL and I think all but Fahsanu played in the NASL. But Fashanau was one of the first top black players in England - and the only openly gay one - so I thought he was worth including.

    Osvaldo (Ossie) Ardiles, Ft. Lauderdale Strikers
    Sonny Askew, Washington Stars)
    Hubert Birkenmeier, New Jersey Eagles
    Chico Borja, Albany Capitals
    Elvis Comrie, Maryland Bays, Albany Capitals
    Teofilo Cubillas, Ft. Lauderdale Strikers
    Winston DuBose, Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Justin Fashanu, Los Angeles Heat
    Ray Hudson, Ft. Lauderdale Strikers
    Arnie Mausser, Ft. Lauderdale Strikers
    Thomas Rongen, Ft. Lauderdale Strikers
    Perry Van der Beck, Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Steve Wegerle, Tampa Bay Rowdies

    Then you've got APSL alums who were on a US World Cup roster.

    Jeff Agoos, Maryland Bays
    Desmond Armstrong, Maryland Bays
    Marcelo Balboa, San Diego Nomads, SFB Blackhawks
    Brian Bliss, Boston Bolts
    John Doyle, San Francisco Blackhawks
    Eric Eichmann, Ft. Lauderdale Strikers
    John Harkes, Albany Capitals
    Chris Henderson, Seattle Storm
    Kasey Keller, F.C. Portland
    Cle Kooiman, California Kickers, San Diego Nomads
    Mike Lapper, Los Angeles Heat
    Tony Meola, Ft. Lauderdale Strikers
    Bruce Murray, Washington Stars, Maryland Bays
    Tab Ramos, Miami Stars, Miami Sharks
    Steve Trittschuh, Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Peter Vermes, Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Eric Wynalda, San Francisco Bay Blackhawks

    Other players from that era who got time with the US National Team

    Jorge Acosta, New Jersey Eagles
    Troy Dayak , San Francisco Bay Blackhawks
    Mark Dodd, Colorado Foxes
    Ted Eck, Colorado Foxes
    Robin Fraser, Colorado Foxes
    Brent Goulet, Seattle Storm
    Phillip Gyau, Maryland Bays
    Jean Harbor, Maryland Bays
    John Kerr, Jr., Washington Stars
    Dominic Kinnear, San Francisco Bay Blackhawks,
    Steve Pittman, Ft. Lauderdale Strikers
    Ken Snow, Miami Freedom

    Some other notables:

    Taifour Diane, Colorado Foxes
    Mark Watson, Vancouver 86ers
    Chad Ashton, Colorado Foxes
    Danny Pena, Los Angeles Salsa
    Hector Marinaro, Toronto Blizzard

    Diane is a great story. He was found by Colorado coach Lorne Donaldson playing in an amateur league in New York City and he went on tbe become APSL MVP for the Foxes. He was one of the few APSL players to go from the league to Europe and he went on to play for a couple of clubs in Europe (I know Homburg, I can't remember the others) and for Guniea in the African Nations Cup and WC qualifying.

    Watson also went from the APSL to England, then to MLS, back to England, MLS and now is with Charleston.

    Marniaro went on to play for Rochester on some of their early dominating teams and he's also one of the three-four best indoor players ever. He also played some for the Canadian national team.

    Ashton and Pena went on to play in MLS.

    Then, you've got the 1994-1996 era of the APSL and USISL.

    These guys all played in the APSL or USISL between 94-96 and have also been capped by the US national team. Some are redundant from previous lists. Many went on the play in MLS, some in Europe and a few had made, or went on to make, World Cup rosters

    Jeff Agoos, Los Angeles Salsa
    Yari Allnut, Carolina Dynamo
    Chris Armas, Long Island RoughRiders
    Jeff Baicher, CCV Hydra
    Michael Brady, Richmond Kickers
    Dan Calichman, New York Centaurs
    Paul Caligiuri, Los Angeles Salsa
    Ramiro Corrales, California Jaguara
    John Doyle, Atlanta Ruckus
    Robin Fraser, Colorado Foxes
    Marcus Hahnemann, Seattle Sounders
    Brian McBride, Milwaukee
    Tony Meola, Long Island RoughRiders
    Manuel Lagos, Minnesota Thunder
    Carlos Llamosa, New York Fever
    Tony Sanneh, Milwaukee
    Billy Thompson, Hawaii
    Steve Trittschuh, Montreal Impact
    Richie Williams, Richmond Kickers

    Though they haven't been capped Mike Clark and Brian Kamler are in their eighth seasons of MLS (and both have been called into national team camps). Both played for the Richmond Kickers in 1995.

    Canadian fans can speak to the quality of these players:

    Geoff Aunger, Vancouver 86ers
    Giuliano Oliviero, Vancouver 86ers
    Lloyd Barker, Montreal Impact

    Other notables:

    Walter Boyd of the Colorado Foxes played for Jamaica in the 98 World Cup.
    Paul Young, Charleston Battery, played for Jamaica several times
    Giovanni Savarese, Long Island RoughRiders - Played for Venezuela, in MLS and in Europe.
    Khalil Azmi, New York Fever - Played for Morocco in the 1994 World Cup


    This obviously has a US bias. If I'm fortetting anyone, foreign or American, from any of the APSL/USL circuits between 1988-1996, who you feel merit inclusion, please feel free to add them.
     

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