1/29/04 Soaked the game up, now it's my time to shine

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by kpaulson, Jan 29, 2004.

  1. Northside Rovers

    Jan 28, 2000
    Austin TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So what exactly is this new MLS FIFA transfer window date:

    Jan 1 to March 1

    OR

    Jan 1 to March 31

    I've seen both dates in mutiple places.
     
  2. beineke

    beineke New Member

    Sep 13, 2000
  3. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Why do I not see this thing lasting?
     
  4. MD_05

    MD_05 New Member

    Oct 18, 2002
    Ohio
  5. denver_mugwamp

    denver_mugwamp New Member

    Feb 9, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    It seems like every time a Mexican VP says something like this then Garber has to jump up and deny it. Does Lalas speak spanish?
     
  6. texgator

    texgator New Member

    Oct 28, 2003
    Plano
    Wasn't there a quote just yesterday from an AEG executive saying that there will be no name or uniform change? This thing is getting out of control, the story changes daily. I know in business dealings both parties aren't always on the same page, and sometimes different angles are leaked by the different sides, but this is crazy.
     
  7. Mike Marshall

    Mike Marshall Member+

    Feb 16, 2000
    Woburn, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This name brought to you by the Department of Redundancy Department.
     
  8. MD_05

    MD_05 New Member

    Oct 18, 2002
    Ohio
    Also coming soon...

    England Britain UK
     
  9. stinky

    stinky Member

    May 14, 2000
    Long Beach, NY
    the proposed name does have that little thingie over the "e" to completely diferentiate itself.
     
  10. uclacarlos

    uclacarlos Member+

    Aug 10, 2003
    east coast
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    First of all, it's La Opinion, the Latino press' version of Chris Bergin. Take it w/ a grain a salt. Or better yet, don't take it. To boot...

    Leiweke isn't a an owner (dueño) of any club in MLS.

    The first part of the article rehashes all the news from earlier this week. (See threads on the Lalas press conference plus many news articles from 1/28)

    The 2nd part states America's intentions to do what they see fit.

    My take? Tuesday was pure damage control on MLS' part in an effort to assuage the fears of loyal fans AND to put pressure on SJ State and/or position the team to benefit from a community-based stadium, which would help the future owners.

    America's reaction was/is jockeying for position in front of the Mexican press and US Latino press.

    B4 mass hare kare commences, take a deep breath, and know that in about 15 days we should have more definitive answers according to CA.
     
  11. cjschlos

    cjschlos Member

    Jan 21, 1999
    New York
    Did anyone else notice the quote in the Dallas story about the Frisco ground breaking being held on 2/18, had that been reported elsewhere?
     
  12. stinky

    stinky Member

    May 14, 2000
    Long Beach, NY
    how many casual soccer fans are going to think this is the national team playing?? :D
     
  13. mpruitt

    mpruitt Member

    Feb 11, 2002
    E. Somerville
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    odd.

    From the Globe

    Matt Driver will become an executive at the Atlantic City Tropicana Hotel and Casino and return to coaching the South Jersey Barons
     
  14. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, Vergara's guys said they were going to start in 2004, and we all saw how well that went over with MLS.

    If Televisa chooses to engage in a pissing contest with OmniLife, more power to them. They still need to convince the people who run MLS to agree to their ideas.
     
  15. Northside Rovers

    Jan 28, 2000
    Austin TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess we're talking about SJ and Club America here. So in 2005 we could have:

    Chivas USA
    America USA

    Oh boy.

    How about calling the San Jose franchise Club Mexico?
     
  16. SYoshonis

    SYoshonis Member+

    Jun 8, 2000
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, when Tim Leiweke "emphasized that Club America would be a partner of AEG, and that buying into the Quakes would not result in renaming the team," as reported yesterday, he was, what, lying?

    Jesus, people, can we PLEASE stop with the sky-is-falling speculation and the selective attention....?
     
  17. alf

    alf Member+

    Jun 29, 1999
    Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    From the same article:

    There will not be a name change.

    They will continue calling themselves the San Jose Earthquakes. The will continue to play in San Jose and remain named the Earthquakes.
     
  18. Anthony

    Anthony Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    Aug 20, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And in other soccer news., Lamar Hunt purchased Mexican soccer power Cruz Azul. He said that the club would be renamed the "Blue Crew."
     
  19. Sneever Flion

    Sneever Flion New Member

    Oct 29, 2002
    Detroit, MI
    ...as opposed to their sister team "Crew Blew".
     
  20. uclacarlos

    uclacarlos Member+

    Aug 10, 2003
    east coast
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Should we then call Chicago, NY/NJ, DC and/or LA "Club Austrian" b/c the principal owner is Austrian?

    The main difference is that two foreign clubs are interested in investing. What they have to offer in addition to money, is a brandname recognition amongst a desired target group. MLS and any of its investors would be foolish not to explore its feasibility. From what Garber et al have said, it appears that the league is against changing the name (at least significantly).

    Club America has made no mention of carrying out a project anywhere near the scale that Chivas USA will carry out. If CA buys SJ (still an "if"), the club probably would have a Mexican player or two, but not an entire squad. So just like I won't call Chicago "Club Jamaica" b/c Damani Ralph is Jamaican, neither will I call SJ "Club Mexico" b/c they have a couple of Mexican nationals.
     
  21. Etienne_72772

    Etienne_72772 Member+

    Oct 14, 1999
    I think the best thing to do would be to incorporate Club America into the name somehow, but keep it as the San Jose Earthquakes. Therefore, the team name could officially be:

    Club America's San Jose Earthquakes

    This name could easily be incorporated into the Earthquakes logo as it is today.

    People could still refer to it as the quakes.
    It still has the locale in the name.
    And the ownership group gets its recognition for marketing purposes.

    Seems pretty simple to me.
     
  22. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
    Why don't they make it "San Jose Earthquakes, America's team"? That works even better!

    ;)
     
  23. uclacarlos

    uclacarlos Member+

    Aug 10, 2003
    east coast
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    While it pains me to point this out b/c history has shown that mass hysteria will ensue, but I must be fair in the translations.

    The part in bold is what Leiweke said, not CA. Now, b4 I post what CA said, I must point out the difference in tone. Notice that Leiweke uses the future tense (no cambiara', seguira', permanecera'), which is FAR MORE EMPHATIC than the more common future construction "ir + a + infinitive", which the CA vp uses. The future tense is so emphatic at times, that it is also a command, a strong one at the that. To boot, the 10 commandments are in the future tense.

    So, here is CA's vp:
    El equipo se va a llamar América USA y obviamente con el uniforme que nosotros queremos.

    Translation:
    The team will be called (not an emphatic, set in stone tone) America USA and obviously will wear the uniform that we want.

    The difference in tone is pivotal in understanding what Alejandro de Haro (vp of CA) is saying. This is what they want, but he is not insisting on it.
     
  24. Blong

    Blong Member+

    Oct 29, 2002
    Midwest, the real one.
    I think in this case, he means the uniform that we love.
     

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