1/22 News, Ralston, TnT & Nats

Discussion in 'New England Revolution' started by Danizinho, Jan 22, 2003.

  1. Danizinho

    Danizinho New Member

    Jul 7, 2000
    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlinenews?id=255651&cc=5901

    Uncle Brucey announced his roster for next month's exhibitions against Argentina and Jamaica - Revs Steve "Betta' Late Than Neva'" Ralston and Taylor "TnT" Twellman are on it.

    Talk about some serious jet lag. Revs are in Aguas de Lindoia, Brasil from Feb. 9 to 25.
     
  2. GPK

    GPK BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 5, 1999
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually, doesn't that work out well for them? Jamaica to Brazil?
     
  3. soccertim

    soccertim Member

    Mar 29, 2001
    Mass
    I just can't read articles like that without thinking "Brian Dunseth?".
     
  4. Danizinho

    Danizinho New Member

    Jul 7, 2000
    Still gotta' train and get on and offa' that plane.
     
  5. John Lewis

    John Lewis New Member

    Mar 15, 2000
    Boston
    You know, I think Dunseth is a much, much better player than people give him credit for. He definitely went through a spell here where he gave up some cheap goals, but a lot of the time he was struggling the Revs' backline was also under added strain because the midfield couldn't hold possession to save their lives.

    Dunseth reads the game pretty well and he's money in the air. He's still relatively young too. I'd take the kid back in a minute.
     
  6. Dan B

    Dan B New Member

    Feb 21, 1999
    Marlborough, MA, USA
    Isn't Dunseth the hack that took down and injured TNT in our semifinal series?

    Still want that hack back?
     
  7. MrSangster

    MrSangster Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Duxbury,MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  8. ProfZodiac

    ProfZodiac Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
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    United States
    Yeah. Only a problem from our side of the fence. What if he WAS ours and he took down (legally, I might add) Ruiz in the final, and we won as a result. Still want that hack gone?

    Prof
     
  9. soren_k

    soren_k New Member

    Oct 28, 2001
    Dunseth was awful here, but pretty good in Columbus. Likewise Jay Heaps was consistently ineffective two years ago, but quite good last year.

    Makes you think twice about giving up on defenders I guess.
     
  10. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    That was a nasty tackle (and legal, only because the referee incredibly took no action - should have been a yellow, minimum, and certainly could have been a red). But, not typical of Dunseth's play.

    I thought at the time that we let him go that he'd develop into a good player down the line, but I wasn't sure it was ever going to happen here. Probably the best thing that's happened to him is to get bounced around and learn different systems from a variety of coaches and teammates. By the time he's 28 or 29, he could be key player on the USNT. Besides, the callups now are still just tryouts to expand and refresh the "pool".
     
  11. Danizinho

    Danizinho New Member

    Jul 7, 2000
    Dunseth's a solid backliner. Unfortunately, the bulk of his problem when he was here was in the form of one Mauricio 'I'm Going Forward' Wright.

    Not to disparage Wright, but it takes a unique blend in the back to work with him [See San Jose], and as a younger player, Dunseth struggled playing alongside of him [If there were an official statistic for passing along players - guys you're supposed to mark - to another defender Wright would have topped it, hands down].

    I think Dunseth would excel with the current group.
     
  12. soccertim

    soccertim Member

    Mar 29, 2001
    Mass
    The worst tackle I saw Dunseth make was taking out Diallo from behind at roughly the same time big mama's shot cleared the crossbar in our 3rd game or so. I'll say this: I was all in favor of getting Dunseth out of town ASAP because of his unending series of unforced giveaways. Oddly enough, Wright got injured and Dunseth had a couple of good games, like he was turning the corner. He was then traded to Miami. He looked like a different player down there, and frankly he made us look bad in a few games. However, I thought he digressed a little this year. That play he made on Wolde's goal in game 3 was eerily remeniscint of some of his earliier work.
     
  13. living_ded_boy

    living_ded_boy New Member

    May 24, 2001
    Pleasanton, Ca

    I couldn't agree more....Wright is a pain in the a$$, talented, but he's not a team player. Dunseth suffered due to this.
     
  14. John Lewis

    John Lewis New Member

    Mar 15, 2000
    Boston
    Um..yes. Taylor didn't take it personally, and it wasn't my knee, so I didn't either.
     
  15. soccertim

    soccertim Member

    Mar 29, 2001
    Mass
    Re: Re: 1/22 News, Ralston, TnT & Nats

    I'm sure they will be profound, well written, and only mention the Revs in passing.
     
  16. Danizinho

    Danizinho New Member

    Jul 7, 2000
    Following the Revs next game after the studding, TnT's upper quad bore an almost perfect imprint of Dunseth's boots, complete with stud marks, and all discolored, too.

    "Tell Dunseth he can come and get his [boots] back," Twellman said at the time.
     
  17. Jon Martin

    Jon Martin Member+

    Apr 25, 2000
    SE Mass
    I'm sorry, but this is garbage. I can accept that MW expected too much from his fellow MLS defenders, but he had no trouble working with either the CRMNT or his teammates at AEK Athens. The Revs have had their share of team cancers and Wright was not one. I would take him back in a heartbeat if we could afford him; he and Kante would be spectacular.
     
  18. Danizinho

    Danizinho New Member

    Jul 7, 2000
    Re: Re: 1/22 News, Ralston, TnT & Nats

    He was good, but not special [For the record, Wright was added to the CRMNT after much debate - that came after years of not being on it].

    On several levels, too, I would strongly beg to differ with you [Wright had a certain style that didn't exactly wear well with most of his teammates, as well as coaches - it's not to say he's a bad guy]. Wright had a very strong personality and was very outspoken.

    We'll probably never know but Wright and Kante would probably work well together - maybe he was playing on some transcendant level and some of us missed it, but Wright [Desailly II??] wasn't the panacea for FC's Revs.
     
  19. soccertim

    soccertim Member

    Mar 29, 2001
    Mass
    The biggest complaints I had about Dunseth were the fact that he passed the ball directly to opponents in our end when he wasn't pressured at least once a game and he would occasionally misjudge long high balls and be too far away to get a head on the ball (for the Red Sox fans in the group, think Mike Greenwell in left field). Mauricio Wright wasn't responsible for either problem.
     
  20. living_ded_boy

    living_ded_boy New Member

    May 24, 2001
    Pleasanton, Ca


    I can't say about athens but i've seen him having heated discussions on more than one occasion on the CRMNT. I also heard his relationships on that team were dicey at best. He's reckless. He will sacrifice defense for a scoring opportunity everytime.
     
  21. Jon Martin

    Jon Martin Member+

    Apr 25, 2000
    SE Mass
    Re: Re: Re: 1/22 News, Ralston, TnT & Nats

    Dan, I'll happily defer to you on all things related to the Revs-behind-closed-doors. If his locker room contributions were negative - What can I say? - I didn't know that. I stand by my good impressions of his play with the CRMNT. In WC '02, I thought he was special, and I wasn't the only one.
     
  22. John Lewis

    John Lewis New Member

    Mar 15, 2000
    Boston
    Mauricio is a special player, very talented, but his idea of helping to develop the younger players on the team was training at half speed and then yelling things like, "what the f%*$ are you doing?" everytime one of them took a bad touch.

    A caring nurturer?

    Not so much.
     
  23. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    Of course everyone varies in levels of "tact", but I've witnessed a similiar attitude (if not in such blatant terms) from many of the foreign players that I've played with.

    I think they just expect a higher "soccer IQ" since they've been playing all-day, every-day from an early age and have relegated so much to "natural instinct". Some things just seem inconceivable, because they do them w/o even thinking about it.

    I'm constantly reminded of a couple of Colombians, Alvarez and Valderrama - neither was a particularly impressive "athlete", but their soccer was imbedded in their bones, not their brains.
     
  24. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    he was a reckless player.He gave up two for every one he scored. He also lended an insecure feeling to the whole team. If you thought they were going 4 in the back, it would actually be 3. If you thought 3 , it was 2. Who needs that??!!
    I was totally glad when he left. I am certain that the Revs could never have had their great run with him in the squad.
     

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