1/22, Cooper: Man Utd reserves v Everton (R)

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Scotty, Jan 22, 2004.

  1. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
  2. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Man, this kid is making a case for himself!
     
  3. Parmigiano

    Parmigiano Member

    Jun 20, 2003
    Yeah, and what about Kirovski??? ;)

    Jokes aside, this story just keeps getting better. Hopefully Cooper can pull away in August for a little Greek holiday.
     
  4. jri

    jri Red Card

    Sep 28, 2000
    boca
    Watson, Nyarko, Weir, Anderssen...those guys have started quite a few gamed for Everton in the past (JMM days)...Cooper doing it against the real men then....damn impressive start for this kid...

    You guys get goose-pimply at all when you keep hearing folks close to Man U. call him a Ruud clone?
    I sure as heck do...

    Gonna be fun to see which one out of the pack: Cooper, Buddle, Casey, Johnson, or?? takes mantle from McHead....Cooper looking more and more like a damn good bet...
     
  5. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    very cool. I hope McBride keeps doing well and sets a very high bar for the young pups to take his USMNT job.
     
  6. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    you can't guard Kenny Coopa, the Secret SERVICE couldn't gaurd Kenny Coopa...!
     
  7. sch2383

    sch2383 New Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    Northern Virginia
    I wonder if he will get some PT in the FA Cup match this weekend.
     
  8. Dynamo Kev

    Dynamo Kev Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    I read today that Man Utd sent 3 top youth players to Antwerp for the remainder of the season. Maybe this means he'll get a FA call-up.
    So is it better to sign with an Erupean youth team than the MLS??
    Laugh at Kiro all you want but he has been 'playing' or at least collecting a paycheque in England for quite a few years while better players make less money in the MLS. Seems like that tag, former Manchester Acedemy member, carries some weight.
     
  9. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    no one could possibly argue that Europe does not pay better. But for me, I would rather make less money and do what improved my game- and chances to represent the USA in a World Cup.You only live once and the money is only money.Of course it is entirely possible that Kiro would not be any better even if he was in the US and played 90 every single week.
     
  10. dl

    dl New Member

    Sep 16, 2000
    Cambridge, MA
    I'd be interesting to know what Kiro would have been if he hadn't bounced around so much. If he would have been able to get a work permit when he graduated from the ManU academy, maybe he would have been getting regular minutes there the whole time.
     
  11. SABuffalo786

    SABuffalo786 New Member

    May 18, 2002
    Buffalo, New York
    He was on Sky Sports News.
     
  12. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    It was a nice goal.

    After some buildup by his teammates, he got the ball at the 18 with his back to the goal. He curled left, towards the middle, and then cracked a rightfooted shot that just tucked into the the (shooter's) left side of the goal.

    He was also involved in the play that saw Weir get hurt, but it was in no way dirty.
     
  13. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    me too. I was on vacation this summer on Cape Cod , rented the house of a Brit .He had Alex Fergusen's biography and I picked it up and read it.The very first chapter mentions how upset Alex was that Kiro was turned down for a work-permit and how he thought Kiro was a really promising player( this book was 5 years old).
     
  14. D-Wall

    D-Wall Member

    Nov 18, 2002
    Philly
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I just hope that Kenny wants to play for the US. If this kid is this talented, England may approach him because of his dad like they did with Hargreaves. Let's hope that Bruce or Mooch cap tie this kid.
     
  15. sch2383

    sch2383 New Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    Northern Virginia
    I don't think Olympics count because it is a non-FIFA event.
     
  16. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    Olympics are Fifa- it is their U-23 championship
     
  17. nancyb

    nancyb Member

    Jun 30, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I knew a guy who headed off to law school saying he was gonna work for the poor and disenfranchized when he graduated. He did well at law school, got an internship with an appellate judge, then went off to make the big bucks. Now he's a sports and entertainment lawyer in CA. Yeah, he's helping the poor man, alright.

    Idealism is one thing, but the reality is that it's a lot nice to have a decent apartment, a car, money for dinners out, vacations, etc., then barely scraping by in MLS, hoping you might get the callup for the national team. Sorry, but I doubt that many people would turn down sure money for a very remote possibility of playing for Uncle Sam.
     
  18. Justin O

    Justin O Member+

    Seattle Sounders
    United States
    Nov 30, 1998
    on the run from the covid
    Club:
    Seattle
    Not to mention the fact that the opportunity to live and work in various locations around Europe is quite a rewarding experience for many people regardless of the work.
     
  19. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's the U-23 championship...sort of.

    EDIT: I didn't see the other post when I wrote this.
     
  20. england66

    england66 Member+

    Jan 6, 2004
    dallas, texas
    Cooper...

    As I have mentioned on another thread the England U 20 coaches are already aware of Cooper...up to the USA to step in first...one of the players sent on loan to Royal Antwerp today by Man U was Eddie Johnson ( the English one )...a striker, currently starting for England U 20's....food for thought...Mike
     
  21. United20

    United20 Member

    Feb 26, 2001
    New York City
    Re: Cooper...

    Since you mentioned before that you know Kenny and his family - do you think he would play for the US if invited or play for England? Make a prediction.
     
  22. sch2383

    sch2383 New Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    Northern Virginia
    I did not know that
     
  23. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Re: Cooper...

    Kenny can't play for England's, or anyone's, U20 team - he's too old.

    The next World Youth Championships, next year, for U20s is for kids born in 85-86 and anyone playing up.

    Further, because England competes in the Olympics as part of the United Kingdom along with Scotland, No. Ireland and Wales, there is no English U23 team because, well, what would be the point since there's no event for them to play in.

    Kenny could play for the US U23 team and if he keeps scoring at this rate, it will be hard for the team to not justify having him into a camp after qualifying.

    But, if he's ever going to play for England, it will have to be at the senior team level.
     
  24. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Re: Re: Cooper...

    This is covered in the thread in the USA Youth Natl teams forum, which is worth a read if people haven't.
     
  25. england66

    england66 Member+

    Jan 6, 2004
    dallas, texas
    Cooper...

    Sandon...love your enthusiasm....but Kenny certainly can play for England at u 20 level...they have friendlies on a regular basis...well before any world youth championships....England under 21,s play Holland at Kingston Communications Stadium in Hull on feb 17th..and he would be eligable for that game...I realise that these would only be friendlies..and would not tie him up long term...but strikes me the USA had better start taking notice....the English certainly are...as far as Kenny's preference...he just wants to PLAY....Great Britain competes in the olympics...and as there is no Great Britain in the soccer world they do not ever enter this tournament and for a very good reason...The British do not want to ever set a precedent...and if they entered a Great Britain team it would open the door for fifa to insist they do the same thing for the world cup....no more England...no more Norhtern Ireland, Scotland or Wales...fifa currently looks the other way...in deference to the game being invented in England...as such there will NEVER be a Great Britain in the olympic soccer tournament..because of the unwelcome precedent it would set... mike
     

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