“Pep Guardiola: Julian Green deserves Bayern shot”

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by CarlosE, Jul 23, 2014.

  1. Foolishness

    Foolishness Member+

    Aug 15, 2012
    I'd rather Green learn from Pep, and train with some of the best players in the world than go out on loan and miss out on some top of the line training and coaching. The lack of game time wont hurt him right now.
     
  2. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  3. brewcity77

    brewcity77 Member

    Jun 27, 2010
    Milwaukee, WI
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Man, that's a name I haven't thought of in ages. I remember when he was 16, 17 and everyone thought he'd set the world on fire. Now he's 23 and bouncing club to club as an afterthought. Talk about a fall-off.
     
  4. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  5. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Eh, most good players don't spend more than a season in the reserves, if that.

    Kroos went out on loan...

    Playing in games that matter are important.
     
  6. Hachiko

    Hachiko The Akita on Big Soccer

    Jun 8, 2005
    Long Beach, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sky's the limit, Jules. Get a move on.
     
  7. TheFalseNine

    TheFalseNine Moderator
    Staff Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 15, 2014
    Norman, Okla.
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did Julian play any tonight? Was anyone able to watch him if he did get in the game?
     
  8. ckl26

    ckl26 Member+

    Jul 21, 2012
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Currently in the 80th...he has a slight knock so he may get 5 mins or so. Prob just rest him so he's healthy by the all star match
     
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  9. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. Wessoman

    Wessoman Member+

    Sep 26, 2005
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. Gabriel_Ferrari_F50

    May 3, 2007
    Names that should make us be patiently and cautiously optimistic about Green:
    Brandon Manzonelli - Villarreal - La Liga
    Jovan Kirovski - Manchester United - EPL
    Freddy Adu - DC United /Benfica - Primiera Liga
    Gabriel Ferrari - Sampradoria - Serie A
    Danny Szetela - Racing Santandar La Liga
    Juan Armando (or something) from New Jersey
    Somewhat successful but not superstars:
    Kenny Cooper- Manchester United
    Jonathan Spector - Manchester United
    Brek Shea (remember reports about the scouts from Man U visiting Dallas?)

    I am sure we have more names to add. Green's goal was great to build up hopes. I do remember a great u-20 performance by Danny Szetela, images for Ferrari on the sidelines waiting to be subbed in versus Inter Milan, Freddy Adu wonder goals, Kirovski leading Manchester United, so on and so forth. Let's hope for the best, but keep our feet on the ground!
     
  12. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    None of those players listed scored in a world cup. None of them were lauded by their head coach either of their european side...
     
  13. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Green scored a sweet goal in the WC.

    He gets a grace period.

    I hope he goes out on loan.
     
  14. CTS26

    CTS26 Member

    LAFC
    United States
    May 26, 2008
    Kannapolis
    Club:
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    You're right none of those players were ever given a shot to play in a World Cup and Green got his shot and took it pretty well I may add.

    I don't see Green being loaned out to any mid table or relegation battling team in the EPL plus he's liable to get injured in the EPL because of how physical that league tends to be. Not saying by any means that Green can't handle it I just saying I don't think his head coach is willing to take that chance.
     
  15. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    The guy with the Gabe Ferrari username giving us advice on not being overzealous. Classic!
     
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  16. kickingdead

    kickingdead Member

    Jan 12, 2012
    Rancho Cucamonga, CA
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A goal in the WC is a goal but I would not say sweet. He miss hit it which worked to his advantage.
    I would love to see him get good first team playing time in a top 5 league.
     
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  17. Parmigiano

    Parmigiano Member

    Jun 20, 2003
    He scored a very sweet goal.

    Intelligence. Timing. Execution on the biggest stage.

    I mean, I take the Ben Hogan perspective.

    It's a game of misses. How good are they? (How bad?)

    With "misses" like Julian Green's, who needs the perfect shot.
     
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  18. GiallorossiYank

    GiallorossiYank Member+

    Jan 20, 2011
    NJ/Roma/Napoli
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Honestly I think his dribbling, ball control is what impressed me most against Belgium. Love the goal, but I was more impressed with him at the ball as his feet.

    Is there a touches video or anything? Would love to rewatch it.
     
  19. mattjo

    mattjo Member+

    Feb 3, 2001
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    World Cup goal yes, but to say they weren't lauded by their managers is n exaggeration. ManU expended a lot of energy trying to get Jovan his work permit and he was praised by Ferguson (pre internet days I know). "Fergie in his 96/97 memories book mentioned Kirovski and how highly rated he was. He also talked about the work permit appeal hearings"

    Jonathan Spector won ManU young player of the year. yes, he was praised by Ferguson as well.

    Gabriel Ferrari ""Gabriel showed good movement, so much so that, with Foti currently on loan with Vicenza, it could be a safe bet to see him break through in the Serie A before the end of the season". He was called the jewel of their youth team on their website.
     
  20. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    All 18 seconds of it?
     
  21. GiallorossiYank

    GiallorossiYank Member+

    Jan 20, 2011
    NJ/Roma/Napoli
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well if people want to call him out of his league against Mexico/Turkey based of all .43 seconds of touches he had, lets bring the .18 seconds worth of QUALITY touches against Belgium into the spotlight.
     
  22. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    He had more time with the ball against Mexico and Turkey than he did against Belgium.

    According to this he had 4 touches. 1 of which was the goal.

    http://resources.fifa.com/mm/docume...0701_bel-usa_usa_playerstatistics_neutral.pdf

    I like the potential in Green, but it's hard to extrapolate any real positives and/or negatives when he has yet to play a full 90 for any first team.
     
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  23. CarlosE

    CarlosE Member

    Dec 13, 2000
    Calvert County, MD
  24. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Like who?
     
  25. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    If you don't understand the context that they were using when they made the statements, then our education system in the US is failing.

    They never made that statement. They said he would be a non factor at the World Cup. Just the World Cup.

    If you want to attack them for that, then okay. Using that as a general statement is just plain stupid. It is like a rancher saying that "We will defend ourselves from them" when referring to wolves eating livestock and someone using that headline for another use because it sounds juicy.
     

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