Özil's Fenerbahçe Protégé - Hoş Geldin Arda Güler

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  1. robertocarlos3

    robertocarlos3 Member+

    Jan 9, 2012
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    I guarantee you that Modric at 40 is dead lifting double the weight Guler can do.
     
  2. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    I'm willing to take that bet.

    It's not about strength, it's about balance. Some guys play better through contact not because they are stronger but because they have much better balance control to make up for it.
     
  3. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    That's because Endrick is built like a Kardashian, he's a future/post career fatty for sure.
     
  4. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    100% some dudes that are big are easily put off, Khederia was one, while some guys that are smaller and wirey are able to shield the ball and take the punishment. Di Maria and Ribery come to mind off the top of my head.

    Guler I feel is just a tad slow, in the fast twitch sense
     
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  5. MaxY

    MaxY Member+

    May 24, 2016
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    Yeah, agreed. He was exaggerating body weight so I addressed that and I said that he can gain strength and muscle etc.
     
  6. Arslan

    Arslan Member

    Aug 23, 2014
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    Welp, this is what I feared. Even though the whole team bar Mbappe was bad, it is still no excuse for Arda failing to impress yet again.

    I feel like the upcoming season will be his career defining moment. Sink or swim. Curious to see how it will go.
     
  7. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    The club and the coaching staff love him. Fans are just ridiculously impatient.
     
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  8. HZinho

    HZinho Member+

    Apr 2, 2013
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    Next season is not career defining for him, come on. He's young, loved by everyone, puts in the work, and extremely talented. He simply needs time and maybe a bit more guidance in terms of best position. He'll be fine, and otherwise I expect him to go on to have a good career anyway.
     
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  9. Arslan

    Arslan Member

    Aug 23, 2014
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    By career defining I don't mean his career might go to shit lol. I mean that next season will determine whether he can make it at Real Madrid or will have to go to a different club because he is not good enough (yet) for this level.

    This will be his third season and at 21 I don't think it is too much to expect Arda to make more of an impact next season. I don't think anyone expects him to carry or lead the team.
     
  10. arcane

    arcane BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Aug 18, 2005
    Philippines
    He's 21. I'd give him till he's 25 if he doesn't mind being a sub until he proves himself.
     
  11. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    By the time Guler will be as old as Valverde is now, Valverde will be 31 years old.

    By that time, Modric will be 44.

    Just for perspective how young Guler is. We have older players in the youth team.
     
  12. HZinho

    HZinho Member+

    Apr 2, 2013
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    If I'm any young player at Real Madrid, I'd be looking at Fede's career trajectory and thinking "I want that too!". Fede was highly rated, but had to have a lot of patience. He never said a word, kept working, and ultimately became our most consistent (and loved) player.
     
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  13. robertocarlos3

    robertocarlos3 Member+

    Jan 9, 2012
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    The club might be the same, but the coaching staff will be different probably. He'll need to prove himself again to gain first team entrance.
    He does have better odds since Alonso does actually rotate.
     
  14. Nir_O

    Nir_O Member+

    Real Madrid
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    Mar 16, 2019
    Seem like Arda will be a starter next season. How do u feel with that ?
     
  15. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    The current season is not even over yet.
     
  16. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Nat'l Team:
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  17. Anon.

    Anon. Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
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    I'll give this kid something, he consistently performs at a very high level for his country, and we don't have too many players like that right now, in our squad. It's not even like Turkey is a top international side (ranked 27th in the FIFA World Rankings, for what it's worth...).
     
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  18. Umar

    Umar Member+

    Sep 13, 2005
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    I like the player a lot. But he didn’t do anything very special there.

    Good pressing for the goal, one good release for another goal scoring chance. But otherwise fairly routine for a #10.
     
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  19. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    Yeah I watched that and was confused with the title and praise.
     
  20. Nir_O

    Nir_O Member+

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    Mar 16, 2019
    His main problem is consistency. Similar to Ozil. We need him to be clinical each game
     
  21. RMrules

    RMrules Member+

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    Aug 12, 2019
    Ozil was one of the best n 10 the game has ever seen,Arda is ...literaly a nobody
     
  22. Doni

    Doni Member+

    Dec 4, 2010
    London
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    Real Madrid
    Will be interesting to see where Xabi wants to use/develop him next season.

    We now have Jude, Arda, Mastuntano, Brahim. The latter three are all natural attacking mids with secondary roles as wingers but Arda looks like the only one that can transition into a deeper central role, wonder if Xabi sees it like that.
     
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  23. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    What he wants, and what might work might be two different things though.
     
  24. Doni

    Doni Member+

    Dec 4, 2010
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    Real Madrid
    Yeah indeed, as it often is, and from reading comments/quotes from Xabi, I would think he will not force any of these players into particular roles just because he has a predetermined idea of how to use them (if it starts to look like it’s not working).

    Ultimately I think it’s the trickiest way to manage, that relaxed approach to tactical fluidity that Zidane and Carlo deployed because it requires a really nauaned manager to consistently strike the right balance between what he thinks works vs what roles his players are most comfortable in.
     
  25. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Ozil was very consistent offensively at RM. Assist machine. Him and Mou butted heads over defensive workrate during 2012-13.
     

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