That's a laugh, a muslim calling anyone else a terrorist. LOL! hezbollah invaded Israel, killed troops and kidnapped 2 others. That is called an act of war. I realize a coward like you doesn't understand such concepts, but it is there and yes they did start that war.
Lets see, hezbollah didn't start this war huh? next you are going to say the Pope is muslim and the holocaust didn't happen either right? What kind of deluded world are you living in?
It depends on how you define starting a war . If you consider capturing Israeli soldiers an act war then Israel has had many of these acts of wars in their history , they have kidnapped many Arabs across the border. Starting war is bombing the shittt out of a country and killing many people , and that’s exactly what Israel did .
It is defined by who started the shooting first. In this case it was hezbollah no matter how hard you try to deny it.
So your telling me Israel has never shot across the border? I can go on GOOGLE and look up this info but I know for a fact that the Syrian government has complained to the UN numerous times about Israel violating its borders which includes firing shots across the border.
Here's a few tasters of who started what: 1) Sheba farms occupation 2) Israeli invasion of lebanon 1982 despite the PLO apparently having held a ceasefire for over a year 3) Kidnapping by Israel of Sheik Abdul Karim Obeid from Lebanon by Israeli soldiers 1989-2004 4) Israeli airstrike on Qana 1996 This has been happening before 2006. There are plenty more examples on Google. The following is a long story, but it might be interesting. There is something i found VERY interesting during my Googling. Whilst i was researching the initial incident a number of articles stated (as i have mentioned earlier in the thread) that the Israeli soldiers were captured on the Lebanese side of the border. They had links to stories in German (Deutsche Presse Agentur) and French media outlets (AFP) as well as the Associated Press. Being an English speaker, not German or good French, I went to search the Associated Press source. I typed in "Joseph Panossian 07.12.2006" (the name of author and date) to look for credible sources. Surprisingly for such a breaking international story the ONLY credible source was at Forbes. I thought the AP distributed their stories widely and internationally, but no bother. I went to check the Forbes links (www.forbes.com/technology/feeds/ap/2006/07/12/ap2873051.html) to find that it had been removed for some reason. Here's the story (quoted on a secondary source, because i can't find the primary source): "Hezbollah Captures 2 Israeli Soldiers By JOSEPH PANOSSIAN , 07.12.2006, 05:41 AM ASSOCIATED PRESS The militant group Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers during clashes Wednesday across the border in southern Lebanon, prompting a swift reaction from Israel, which sent ground forces into its neighbor to look for them. The forces were trying to keep the soldiers' captors from moving them deeper into Lebanon, Israeli government officials said on condition of anonymity. The Israeli military would not confirm the report. Earlier, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert called an emergency Cabinet meeting and said Lebanese guerrillas would pay a "heavy price" for Wednesday's attacks. "These are difficult days for the state of Israel and its citizens," Olmert said. "There are people ... who are trying to test our resolve. They will fail and they will pay a heavy price for their actions." AP" This is the story breaking the news to the world, and yet it can't be found on any news source (on the BBC i can some stories which are years old). Apparently it was changed later, two or three times in the course of the day, by Mr Panossian. I find this very strange. I suppose the whole story will only come out once (or if) the soldiers are released.
So now they are trying to claim that the soilders were taken from Lebanon and not from inside Israel? Even though there is evidence that shows the results and dead troops inside Israel from that attack. Not to mention the attack on the civilians that brought the israel troops out in the first place. how about 1948. Who started the war with Israel trying to destroy their country? Shebba Farms, that makes me laugh. Lebanon and Syria can't even figure out who it belongs too. Israel holding it is the result of a war where they had to defend themselves, again, from their belligerent, bloodthirsty neighbors. You also left off the numerous rocket attacks by hezbollah into Israel as well as other hezbollah kidnappings and suicide bombers among other terrorist attacks. Neither side is innocent in all this, but Israel isn't the one with the charter that states it will never accept it neighbors and that they should all be destroyed now does it?
Not "they", its AP who put that article out. And they're not making the article "now", as i said it was originally released way back on July 12. Some of the dead troops (four in total according to reports) were killed when their tank was blown up by a landmine when chasing the Guerillas who had captured (or kidnapped, call it what you will) the soldiers.
I am referring to the troops shot and killed during the ambush where the terrorists kidnapped the troops. http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/12/mideast/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/12/AR2006071200262.html Funny how at that time Hezbollah did not deny that they crossed the border at all did they? I would think that if they hadn't crossed the border they would certainly have pointed that out.
How many soldiers were killed in the attack you are referring to? And as i've said, the ORIGINAL AP report made in the early hours of 12 July mentioned the attack in South Lebanon. Later reports say it was in Israel. Contrary to what some here might think, I wasn't there to personally kidnap the soldiers, i don't know for sure what happened. All i'm saying is its very strange that the initial story changed and you can't find it easily on the net any more. ...Finally. I have found an American source with the same article but actually on the day of the capture. It too confirms that original reports had the capture on the Lebanese side of the border, but as i have said for some reason the reports were changed later. The source is ABC News 4 Charleston http://www.wciv.com/showstory2.hrb?f=n&s=343816&f1=loc
They tried their best. The Israeli Chief of Staff (I think) said that everywhere was a legitimate target in Lebanon. The Israeli Attack Force tried to follow his orders.
Let's not kid ourselves, IDF was screwed by its gutless leaders like Olmert and Peretz - that is why Hezbollah still exists. If they tried their best, half of ME would not exist.
Yeah and the German army was stabbed in the back in 1918. Fact is in modern wars you have to take the political dimension as well as the military one into account. Israel didn't and it suffered. But nice to see that you agree that that the Israeli Attack Force was screwed during the Lebanon War.
Your denial comes far too late to be convincing! http://www.wciv.com/showstory2.hrb?f=n&s=343816&f1=loc The language in the article is confusing, IMO. I can understand your perception that "during clashes Wednesday across the border in southern Lebanon" means that the Israeli soldiers were across the border. OTOH, my first perception was that it meant that the clashes spanned the border, occurring on both sides. I would not grasp at this article as proof. In the absence of any evidence that the author was there, his report is his comprehension what he was told. He could easily have be mistaken. "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to umarfm again." Nice find, in any event.
do you know why Shebaa farms were occupied? it was captured by Israel during the 6 day war as it was a strategic location for Syrian attacks. God, i wish people read about history before making comments.
Mani, you are blatantly misrepresenting reality in this statement. Samir Geagea enjoys tremendous amongst the Maronites, much more so than Michel Aoun, who has sold his soul to Hezbollah. He was sentenced for a murder of another christian, Dory Chamoun, by a military court when Syria occupied Lebanon. The Syrian occupation of Lebanon saw a total end to impartial justice. The real sell out here is Emile Lahoud, the man hugged Ahmandinejad. I take it you probably don't know a single Lebanese Christian. Emile Lahoud is a pupper, a Christian with no support amongst Lebanese Christians. As for war criminals, look no further than anyone in the Damascus government. To compare Geagea to David Duke misrepresents Lebanon and shows huge bias to the shi'ite community, a community which as of late has shown the worst side of sectarianism.