Official Hoops-Toros-Waldos Catch All Thread

Discussion in 'FC Dallas' started by Chamo, Aug 31, 2006.

  1. DeigoRedD

    DeigoRedD Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 28, 2004
    Fort Worth, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FYP :p
     
  2. Parrish

    Parrish Member

    Aug 22, 2002
    Lincoln Park,Chicago
    It's Hoops. Hooray, Hoops!
     
  3. ZenCarver

    ZenCarver New Member

    May 26, 2003
    Richardson, TX
    I don't like "Hoops" because it's based on the uniform (note: I didn't call it a "kit") - I like it because it sounds cool. "Toros" doesn't sound cool to me. I like the single-syllable nick.
     
  4. Kevin Lindstrom

    Oct 28, 2003
    Dallas, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I read your post just fine. No way the hoops go away even in five years, probably not ten. Again, barring the sale of the team (again, not something that is even vaguely on the horizon at this point), the look is going to stay the same.

    Sure, the size of the hoops might change, but I think you'll see the same thing from Dallas that you've seen from Celtic for most of their hoops existance.
     
  5. The Liquidator

    May 22, 2006
    Tigres UANL---Dynamo
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina

    Hooray cooler sounding nickname! ...omg I think i just subscribed
     
  6. texgator

    texgator New Member

    Oct 28, 2003
    Plano
    Dude...I think he's talking about us.
     
  7. Chamo

    Chamo New Member

    Aug 9, 1999
    Plano,TX
    Bring back Islamico! :D

    y los Dallas Burns ;)
     
  8. texgator

    texgator New Member

    Oct 28, 2003
    Plano
    And I still think the rebranding was a mistake. Clearly it has not accomplished a damn thing in regards to attendance or community recognition, as I predicted. It has, however, created confusion to some extent.....I'm still asked by soccer neophytes "what happened to the Burn". Furthermore, it destroyed 10 years worth of impressions made upon the community that did, to some measure, recognize the Burn and that it was the local outdoor soccer team. Trading those impressions (good or bad) for what appears to have been little to no gain was what worried me from the outset. 2.5 years into this and its clear my fears were well-founded.
     
  9. xanthippas

    xanthippas Member

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Jun 8, 2004
    Bedford, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If a "small group in the blogosphere" can't decide on a nickname, maybe we just shouldn't have one.
     
  10. texgator

    texgator New Member

    Oct 28, 2003
    Plano
    I'd like to congratulate Rocket for providing the local soccer beat writers with one article each this season when they clearly had nothing else to write about. You are obviously a friend to the unimaginative journalist. Bravo.
     
  11. xanthippas

    xanthippas Member

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Jun 8, 2004
    Bedford, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Definite HSO...but I think I agree with you.
     
  12. Rocket

    Rocket Member

    Aug 29, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe they should go back to calling them the Burn.
     
  13. texgator

    texgator New Member

    Oct 28, 2003
    Plano
    I'm going to go back to calling you vw.

    I also believe your rebranding was a mistake. You clearly are more representative of a small foreign car than a large space missile.
     
  14. Rocket

    Rocket Member

    Aug 29, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's OK.

    Old school ain't bad -- unless it's Scottish old school in the U.S.A.
     
  15. Chamo

    Chamo New Member

    Aug 9, 1999
    Plano,TX
    The rebranding had potential, but it's execution fell way short on the marketing end.
     
  16. texgator

    texgator New Member

    Oct 28, 2003
    Plano
    Yes, it did have potential, but it would have had to been one hell of a rebranding for me not to have the fears that I did. Bottom line, it is DAMN hard to market MLS soccer. Unless you are paying for ad space, no one is interested in your press releases. No media are clamoring to reprint your information. There is no urgency in getting out your message. Knowing this, it was always going to be hard to have an effective rebranding campaign. Just another one of Greg Elliot's mistakes, if you ask me.
     
  17. xanthippas

    xanthippas Member

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Jun 8, 2004
    Bedford, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Possibly, but I'm not sure there's any amount of marketing short of handing out pamphlets to every citizen of the DFW metroplex that makes up for the inherent problems with "FC" that Texgator's talking about.
     
  18. texgator

    texgator New Member

    Oct 28, 2003
    Plano
    Even if they had gone with a better "brand" than FC it still would have been an uphill struggle to get the word out, to get the recognition. But, it's obvious to me that the unimaginative choice of FC Dallas created some problems. I remember sitting in the banquet room at the Westin Stonebriar in Frisco looking at the new shield and Dustin comes up and says, "For all the money they put into this thing, you think they could have at least come up with something better than this". Exactly my feelings. Basically all they accomplished was getting rid of a bad first choice, but they failed to replace it with something that would truly make a difference.
     
  19. Chamo

    Chamo New Member

    Aug 9, 1999
    Plano,TX
    I agreed with you back then, and nothing has changed.
     
  20. Chamo

    Chamo New Member

    Aug 9, 1999
    Plano,TX
    That is because that something from a brand perspective does not exist.

    The lone exception in this market being: The Dallas Cowboys SC. Embrace everything Cowboys. The Silver and Blue. The cheerleaders. The Lone Star logo. Poor Uncle Lamar's head would have exploded, but that brand had a chance.
     
  21. texgator

    texgator New Member

    Oct 28, 2003
    Plano
    Might have had a chance. What's the Spanish word for a cowboy? Ranchero? Dallas Rancheros SC? Silver and Blue kits. Big Star on the crest. Beats the hell out of FCD.
     
  22. The Liquidator

    May 22, 2006
    Tigres UANL---Dynamo
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    haha and our away kits can be white with the Red Stripe sash like the bottle and River Plate

    delicious and refreshing
     
  23. chapulincolorado

    Jul 14, 1999
    McAllen, Texas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Tsk-tsk! A rap on yar knuckles for sleeping through Texas History class in Jr. High. :D:p

    "Vaqueros"=Cowboys.
     
  24. texgator

    texgator New Member

    Oct 28, 2003
    Plano
    They didn't offer that at Teague Middle School in Orlando, Florida for some reason.
     

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