That's not the point. Real Madrid paid £17.7m for Diarra. We were quoted £25m for the same player. Thus, we are seen as mugs in the market and that has to stop. If you think £7.3m is 'a lttle bit more' then fair enough, I'm sure you don't. I know what you're talking about. Like i said, us getting bent over and shafted simply has to stop. What we play for players has to be in keeping with the real market and not this Cocytus we seem to rdrift down during every big deal. At the corrrect price, yes. Otherwise, no. Mascherano is only 22!! That is phenomenal for the position he plays, to be so good at that age is nothing short of prodigious and he is only going to get better. He could be an all-timer by the time he's done. Muntari will never be. There's a discussion about all of this in the Hargreaves thread. It's pointless discussing Diarra, Gatusso and De Rossi because they aren't coming here. Hargreaves is not A-class.
i Do not think we are going in for Mascherano DS. However what is important is we bring in a CM to maintain a sustained challenge in the PL and CL. I do not care whether its Hargreaves or Senna.
Would you rather overspend a few mil or say the price is not right, the current squad is good and we'll see where this takes us approach. 17mil for OH and 8mil for Senna is paying way too much but the upside is fletcher and Oshea will see a lot more of the bench. We'll definately have a much much better midfield. And hopefully put up a good challange to Chelsea in the PL and last a little longer in the CL. Also this year's CL kitty is HUUUGE. the deeper we go the more mullah we'll have.
If we refuse to pay these bullshit prices, either our situation will eventually being to change as teams know we won't be shafted.. or we will just never get any good players.
If this question as already been asked and answered could someone please direct me, is Muntari a DM? I seem to remember in one of DS's posts he was more of CM/AM (DS-I apologize in advance if I am misquoting you). Is he MUQ? Would it be fair to say he is poor man's Diarra? Is this the same Muntari he said during the WC he wanted to come to Man Utd and previously trained here? I'm trying to figure out why we are not more interested in a 22 yr old DM who publically stated his desire to come to us is worth 10mill ? Can someone be kind enough to help me out
Re: We still need a CM addition, time is running out, who are the realistic last min i guess man utd. want nothing to do w/ gravesen then?
I agree with your thinking towards this as we are talking about filling a position that is a requirement. Where I disagree with Dark Savante on his claim that it is only worth spending over the odds on A-class players is that there is no point on spending ridiculous amounts on players no matter how good they are who are just luxuries e.g Veron. We needed a Rio, we needed a Rooney so they were worth the money even though especially with Rio we really payed the premium. We need a CM enforcer in our team now and one should be bought because it is a requirement, he does not have to be Roy Keane just be a quality, reliable player who will do the job that needs to be done and offer more options. If we have to spend a bit over the odds to get that someone in then we are in a position to do so. Although I don't want to sound contradictory just because we may have a bit of extra cash does not mean we should spend it 'unless' it is on a player we need. Which is why for example I believe it would be spending money for the sake of it if we bought Tevez for £20+mil
Muntari is a Dynamic box-to-box midfielder. He is a very competitive ball winning midfielder who can also score goals. In the WC he played on the left because Appiah & Essien played in the centre. But he was wonderfull in the centre when he came in for Essien when he was suspended. He is slightly raw but would improve so much under someone like fergie, with age and a good engine on his side I think he is one of the best young CM prospects about.
This young norwegian international that we are interested in 'Kristofer Haested' http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=412221&CPID=8&clid=1&lid=&title=United+watch+Norwegian+starlet Is there anyone who has seen this guy play if so can you let us know this guy's qualities and whether you think he would be a good addition, maybe good enough for us to stop talking about Hargreaves etc?????????????
Re: We still need a CM addition, time is running out, who are the realistic last min I'm not sure but I do know that Appiah can play on the left and he's played there a few times before.
Re: We still need a CM addition, time is running out, who are the realistic last min Landzaat! Are you off you rocker?!? We don't want him. Trust me I'm a big Dutch fan and from what I've seen I ain't impressed. I really like the way you compared Barca with us. If we could emulate the way they play we'd surely be unstoppable...expect for them. In your comparison however I'd switch C-Ron with you Rooney. Wazza is more of the playmaker type Ronny is and Messi and C-Ron share some similar characteristics. Messi=RW and Ronny=SS IMO.
Re: We still need a CM addition, time is running out, who are the realistic last min Its your personal opinion, and I respect it. But you cant expect anyone to agree with it. For an English team like Manchester United, we needed a proven player in the midifeld, and Carrick has proved he is a lot more than mediocre. Moutinho is talented, but he is still young, and has a lot to learn. Infact, during the European under 21 championships, he took a while to get going, and unfortunately it was too late then for Portugal's youngins.
I still wouldnt mind having him. Just dont think we could get him now. Unless we've been secretly negotiating for him all this time (or anyone for that matter) I cant picture us signing anyone other than Hargreaves, and even that doesnt look likely. But I would love for us to sign Maduro.
Re: We still need a CM addition, time is running out, who are the realistic last min Well in that case, tell him to start crawling. Is Haestad any good?
Re: We still need a CM addition, time is running out, who are the realistic last min It's a shame Makoun is cup-tied. I rate him quite highly and he could be a good alternative to O'Shea in the DM position. CL experience would have been a bonus. Muntari could be a good option, although I think anything over 10m is an inflated price for him. He's hard-working and strong, but I just didn't see enough technical prowess in him to suggest that he'll be amongst the world's top midfielders at his peak. I think there's a few options out there, although there are very few top class defensive midfielders out there. I think what Fergie is looking for is not the Makelele-type of holding midfielder, but rather a terrier who covers a lot of ground.
Re: We still need a CM addition, time is running out, who are the realistic last min Actually, I think a lot if us have lost a little perspective (including you). I don't believe anyone at Manchester United is desperate. I think they believe we have a pretty darn good side... dare I say it.. even "World Class"... that still could use some beefing up in the midfield. No cheerleading here.. just reality. While we as fans and Man U are obviously dissappointed anytime we don't win the EPL.. does that mean we are not "World Class"? Afterall, we took second and finished the league very strongly. Last time I checked, the EPL was considered one the top three leagues in the World. Are you saying that only the Champions of top three leagues in the World are "World Class"? My bet is AC Milan fans don't feel that way.. nor Real Madrid. Look I think we need to sign another mid too. But I think you underestimate the quality of the current squad a bit.. I think we are far from desperate. Basically, we are the ones that need a reality check, not Fergie.
Re: We still need a CM addition, time is running out, who are the realistic last min I would agree with you except that we are all well aware that the DM position is painfully thin. I would say that we have a darn good squad though, and while it's true that bringing in a damguud DM would probably see us on equal level with Chelsea, I still think we have a solid squad now. And I'd like to express an unpopular opinion. Not bringing in someone from outside means that we get to bleed our young. Fletcher, Jones & O'Shea for midfield, and Rossi for upfront.
Re: We still need a CM addition, time is running out, who are the realistic last min Actually, it looks more like the end of the owen hargreaves story... http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/5904756
Re: We still need a CM addition, time is running out, who are the realistic last min Hey I agree we need a DM. I wanted Senna. In fact I was always of the opinion we should have tried to bring in up to 3 midfield players. But the way some people go on you would think we were facing Relegation.
its looking highly unlikely that OH will come here. We had 3 months to bring in atleast two quality midfielders and look how we fcuked ourselves over. Why don't we offer 8-10m for Reo-Coker and see what happens!!!
Re: We still need a CM addition, time is running out, who are the realistic last min No, I dont think ive been making it sound that bad. All I was commenting on was our midfield solution. I think the team will be good enough for 3rd or better in the EPL, but in Europe Im not so sure yet. We should get out the group, but with what we have, I dont expect much.