Here we go again , the rest of the world just doesn't care about how you call your teams, they gonna respect you when MLS will start to produce good players and the level will be better What a dumb thread
Maybe in a backdoor method MLS is promoting city names by using stupid team names (Real, Redbulls, Wizards, etc.). To this day I refer to our team by its city name (Houston) and rarely use its other name except in casual conversation. Part of that though is because of the whole 1836 debacle.
"registered Club for Athletic Games Stuttgart 1893" Stuttgarter Kickers Philips Sports Union Eindhoven Go Ahead Eagles Sparta Rotterdam Willem II Olympique de Marseilles Juventus FC (youth football club) Bolton Wanderers FC (should be Bolton FC) Manchester City FC (should be Manchester FC) Manchester United FC (should be Manchester FC) Blackburn Rovers FC (should be Blackburn FC) Arsenal FC (should be London FC) Charlton Athletic FC ("athletic football club?" seems a bit redundant, no?) Tottenham Hotspur Plymouth Argyle Queen's Park Rangers Celtic Rangers Wolverhampton Wanderers Crewe Alexandra Leyton Orient Doncaster Rovers Nottingham Forest Accrington Stanley MK Dons You can't be against teams that don't use their city name since that would eliminate Arsenal from teams that can be taken seriously. You can't be against additional words to the city FC format since that would eliminate Manchester United, Bolton, Blackburn, and Tottenham from teams that can be taken seriously. You can't be against official nicknames since that eliminates Rangers. And it seems strange to mock FC Dallas for trying to appeal to "foreign" fans and then demanding that all MLS teams adopt the terms football and club (though neither apply to MLS teams) in order to impress Europe.
Boston FC [Boston Football Club] Chicago FC [Chicago Football Club] Columbus FC [Columbus Football Club] DC United FC [Washington DC United Football Club] Kansas City FC [Kansas City Football Club] New Jersey FC [New Jersey Football Club] Chivas de Los Angeles [Club Deportivo Chivas de Los Angeles] Dallas FC [Dallas Football Club] Denver FC [Denver Football Club] Houston FC [Houston Football Club] Los Angeles FC [Los Angeles Football Club] Salt Lake City FC [Salt Lake City Football Club] What a crock! Here's what I would name them. New England Revolution - Boston 1776 Chicago Fire - Chicago Bulls II Columbus Crew - Columbus Christophers DC United - DC United de DC Kansas City Wizards - Kansas City City (The Cityians) NY Red Bulls - The Red Bulls of East Rutherford Toronto FC - Toronto Canadians Chivas USA - Chivas de Dominquez Hills FC Dallas - Dallas Burn Colorado Rapids - Denver United Houston Dynamo - Houston Goals LA Galaxy - LA Hispanic Panic Real Salt Lake - Salt Lake City City (also the Cityians)
Yes, but the clubs and their fans still use the nicknames because the clubs official names are as boring and flavorless as english food.
A history?? 11 years is not history. And didn't it change from Wiz about 3 years into it? I don't care how much history is behind it, KC Wizards is just a stupid effing name and you know it. Regardless, my point is still valid, none of your players are actual magical wizards, so cricitizing FC Dallas for not actually being a club is pretty funny. I WANT FREAKIN WIZARDS, BITCH!!
Don't worry, they just signed Harry Potter to the youth team and are in negotiations with Gandalf the Gray, although MLS is trying to reduce the number of over-the-hill European players in the league.
I won't accept Harry Potter until he actually graduates from Hogwarts...until then he's not a full Wizard. And there's no way Gandalf lasts a full season, he's been injury prone since that run in with Sauran. The only one on their roster that even half-qualifies is Johnson, who apparantly put a spell on the entire US Soccer fanbase that makes them believe he is a world class striker.
Well, Dave O'brien once referred to Rangers as "Glascow United" during a USMNT friendly. Maybe it takes a village of baseball announcers to clean up european soccer. Each and every one of the responders are correct. This thread id dumb. Bump!
Apples and oranges, gator. Why do they feel the need to call themselves a football club when they actualy aren't? The Wizards call themselves the Wizards (or Wiz) in a reference to the Wizard of Oz (which is a bit shaky, but a reference nonetheless). Ef See Dallas has no excuse for that name.
I think he's referring to a certain movie that came out about 65 years ago. The irony is that the actual Wizard in that movie was a farce, so I'm not sure why they'd want to tie themselves to that name. At least the monkeys were scary. I still think that FC Dallas should have been named Dallas SC because of the obvious asterisks that opposing fans are going to put into the name and because SC is more applicable here, but at least the Dallas fans get to organically come up with a nickname instead of having it forced upon them.
(sigh) It's all relative. I'm so tired of MLS fans, needing so BADLY, recognition for our league by Europe. It's an American league with semi-American style names. If you don't like it? Suck it.
I don't really care what Europeans think of us. America will earn respect when our teams beat theirs and that is the only way we will earn respect. A lot of Americans that I know make fun of MLS because they are trying to act European by naming teams Real Salt Lake and FC Dallas. MLS needs to stick with the American way [city/state] + [mascot]. Good Names. New York Red Bulls-bulls is a common America mascot. Kansas City Wizards-it's a common American mascot. Colorado Rapids-It fits with Nuggets, Avalanche, and Rockies. D.C. United-It has a European sound, but doesn't sound stupid. Huston Dynamo-City + nickname is the American way. Chicago Fire-There was a bad fire in Chicago one time that is a part of the towns history. LA Galaxy-It's grown on me and uses the American formula, City + nickname. New England Revolution-Study American history and you will see that the name fits perfect with the location. Columbus Crew-City + nickname is how it should be done. Names that suck! FC Dallas-This isn't Europe! The logo is good, but change the name Stampede, so something else that can relate to the logo. Real Salt Lake-This is the USA and not Spain! Call them the Puma's (yes I know BYU already uses cougars). Chivas USA-This is America and not Mexico! Most of the Mexicans in our country aren't even supposed to be here! Call them the LA Condors! Toronto FC-This isn't Europe! Naming your team FC will not make your fan base bigger and make your team better, but it will make Europe and soccer haters laugh at you. Pick an animal, or something else that has a connection to the area and use that for the nickname.
Right, your friends were probably big fans of MLS back before FC Dallas and Real Salt Lake and now they make fun of it. I don't believe you because 1. judging by your posts, it's unlikely that you have friends 2. attendance, TV ratings, etc have not suffered because your friends allegedly don't like the newer team names So you think Kansas City Wizards sounds better than Toronto FC? And your sole reasoning is because it sounds more American? You think a team named after little men with long white hair and beards and pointy hats holding a wand and casting magic spells is a good name, huh? I agree it doesn't sound stupid. Too bad the same can't be said for your post. There were no federal taxes before 1913. Many non whites weren't allowed to vote until the 15th amendmant. Oprah Winfrey and Kirstie Alley keep getting fat and losing weight. Things in America change. I wish you were there so I wouldn't have to read this crap. Really? What about the word Revolution pertains to American history? Personally I don't like the name New England because it sounds too European. I'd rather have 10 million illegals here than one of you. It's not the MLS team names that has people laughing at you.
No, the city's Old Boys, it's the team Bern players go to at the end of their careers. Why did so many of you respond to the obvious wind-up merchant who started this thread?
Ok so on the one hand you talk about how you don't care what Euros think of you, yet on the other hand tell us our team name is bad because it "will" make Europeans laugh at us. Apart from the fact that you cannot prove Europeans will laugh at it (the many I've talked to like it), if you don't care what Europeans think of you why the heck do you think Toronto fans should care what anyone else thinks either? The vast majority here love the name, so deal with it. Viva Toronto Football Club!!!!
We love our cake. We love to eat it too. Dallas made the right decision by getting rid of "Burn". Houston was....better off with "Houston 1836" than Dynamo but they caved to pressure from the Mexican community. Funny, right now there's a rumor that the Rapids may be rebranded with some sort of "Arsenal" type name.
Why should there be a formula to naming teams? It seems kinda redundant. I never could understand peoples' fascination with animal mascots. Seriously, who cares? What I care about is that each club establishes a unique identity of their own. I dont mind this name. It's not because they have an animal. The team has never had a strong identity so I didn't lose sleep over the change. I like Red Bull because they have a motivated owner that is dedicated to giving the league money and producing a winning team (for once). I'm indifferent on the Wizards. It's defiantly a workable name, but it's also cheesy as hell. Undoubtedly better than the abbreviated "Wiz." I can't image what ill-conceived focus group came up with the Wiz. You know you made product packaging blunder when even 10-year-olds think the name sucks. Good thing they changed. Biased or not, this is still one of my favorites of the original names. It has a nice ring to it, and it doesn't sound too fabricated or cheesy. Also one of the great original names. While some could see it as Euro-posing, its easily sidestepped by the team's tie to the nation's capital. I'm sorry, but I can't stand this name. Only eastern European clubs (in former communist countries which coincidently seems rather silly in Texas) have carried that name. It's clearly a cookie-cutter copy. It really is a stretch trying to argue that it has any historical or cultural ties to the area. Yawn. Great name. Easy to identify and explain its significance. The name is cheesy, but they made it work. The Galaxy have managed to establish an inseparable identity to their name (like the Cosmos). It think it's a fine name, the significance is obvious. I not sure how Microwave gets off on New England sounding "European." It's a recognized and commonly used name for the region. Come on, you think Pats fans find New England "European." What about Los Angeles, it that too Spanish for you? Give me a break. Like the Wizards. The name is workable but sounds a little cheesy. I'll admit the Burn sucked. Though I can't help but think it might have worked if Dallas had established the kind of history that LA did. The change is certainly understandable. But Stampede? That's sounds like a cheesy indoor lacrosse team, and the only reason those teams have crappy names like that is because the older and more popular professional sports leagues have taken all the good sounding names. I agree they should change FC to SC. It's not football, its soccer, and thats not going to change. Football is what the Dallas Cowboys play. Using FC is an obvious copy of Europe. Just call it SC Dallas, or Dallas SC. I agree that Real Salt Lake is a bad name. It's a shallow impersonation on multiple levels. But Pumas? How may puma's have you seen in Utah? We might as well call them the Salt Lake Zebras. I don't understand your fetish with animal names. Stupid comment. While I personally think that team is nothing but an expensive and elaborate marketing gimmick, it's a lucrative deal for the league. I don't mind the actual name at all. It's supported by a predominantly Hispanic community, owned by a Mexican, and affiliated with a Mexican Club. Whats the problem with the Spanish name? Again, I don't get your fascination with animals. I'll leave this name with what I said against Dallas. If they call it football it should be FC, if they call it soccer it should be SC.
I was totally serious dude. because it has the word England in it. I heard that after they got a MLS team, the locals started paying for things with the British pound and even started digging up all the tea in the ocean and putting back where it was before 1773. because you know, New England sounds too European. Who wants to be a newer version of the crappy Country on an island where they don't have dentists?