The New Summer Transfer Market

Discussion in 'Barcelona' started by Lucho-the-Legend, May 23, 2006.

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  1. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Saviola has better control than him and isnt as fast as him. They both score goals though.
     
  2. ronaldinh010

    ronaldinh010 New Member

    Jul 5, 2005
    Detroit, MI
    I guess you guys will just never understand what I'm saying and we'll have to agree to disagree. Nobody is asking for "galactico" policy. Forlan is certainly no galctico. Let me try putting is this way: many other elite teams are able to relace their best strikers with an equal caliber striker in case of injury or loss of form (i.e inter, Milan, chelsea, maybe Juve, etc...). I really don't see how anybody can argue that. Da hell with Etoo not wanting to rotate. Do we realize how much he's played the past two years and how he slowed down at the end of each season and how we struggled a bit even with Larsson? Do we realize how fatigued R10 may be coming into the season? Do we realize how young Messi still is (as phenomenal as he is)?

    The good thing is I think the board actually agrees with me. That's why they wanted Henry and now looking at Forlan. For me, I don't really want Forlan, but for 8-10 maybe 12mil he'd be fine. A goalscorer, pichici caliber at a cheap price. Are there questions about him? Sure. Can he be effective off the bench? Don't know. Was the pichichi year a fluke? Don't know. That is precisely why I'd prefer to explore other options and certainly not pay much for him.

    For Gudjunsen (whatever his name): if you can promise me he's a goalscorer, bring him on. If 12 goals is what he offered whe he was a starter or playing regular minutes, my friend you can keep him. 12 goals, u gotta be kidding. We can't get him just coz he's cheaper, we should get only if he fits the bill. My bill is a bonafied goalscorer.

    Can we get a bonafied goalscorer to sit on our bench? Crespo has been a bench player for 3 years now. There are guys out there playing in lesser leagues who would probably love to play for a winner. Vieri is still out there, actually. I would go down a list and different schemes to get such players, but I don't think it'd change any body's minds here. I've probably spoken enough on this issue.
     
  3. david_silva

    david_silva New Member

    Apr 21, 2006
    Canada
    Gudjohnson can play everywhere in the midfield and in attack, he can cover for Edmilson if need be and he can play alongside Messi and Eto'o if need be too. He's a pretty invaluable member of a squad and getting him would add a pretty key component to the side. My choice for signing a striker has to be Mark Gonzalez because he was in form playing for Real Sociedad and is probably the only reason they're still up in the Primera. The guy is not as expensive as most players but he has as much firepower as the higher priced guys on the market. The other attacking option is to sign the best new attacking player that comes out of the World Cup even though it might cost a lot more.
     
  4. RemiNL

    RemiNL New Member

    Mar 8, 2006
    Please man read what I said, he's been coming off the bench for the last 4 seasons. Scoring an average of 12 goals is the exact same kind of contribution Larsson made with us. Do you even have an idea how many that is in a season? There aren't even more than 10 players in Liga who scored more than 12 goals this past season. We'd be lucky to get a sub who could put away 12 a year.

    In other news, Villarreal president Fernando Roig keeps on insisting that he is not going to negociate in any way with Barcelona, that the only way to get Forlán is to pay the 23mil period.
    http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/20060531/NOTICIA221205681.html

    So perhaps maybe we should look at signing both Crespo and Eidur from Chelsea in one big package? Only thing is, does Crespo have an EU passport? Because if not it won't work.
     
  5. Rakim_22

    Rakim_22 Member

    Manchester United
    Netherlands
    Sep 6, 2004
    Florida
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    He is most likely going to Liverpool so forget about it.
     
  6. david_silva

    david_silva New Member

    Apr 21, 2006
    Canada
    Mark Gonzalez is a Liverpool player except they are having problems getting his work permit to be in the country because Chile is not one of the top 70teams in the world. Liverpool might have to give up and let him go if they don't resolve the situation this summer, that's why other La Liga teams have been looking for a loan arrangement where he would get his Spanish citizenship playing in Spain that travel up to Liverpool.
     
  7. evil_allan

    evil_allan Member+

    May 3, 2004
    Turtle Island
    isn't mark gonzalez a winger?
     
  8. ronaldinh010

    ronaldinh010 New Member

    Jul 5, 2005
    Detroit, MI
    If you tell me, he could reliably score at least 17 goals as a STARTER, then I'm good. As for Villareal, someone should tell them where to go. Wat da heck they thinkin? They must be on dat new stuff. Did they even pay that much for Riquelme. If barca even continues any sort of negotiations with those bastards, I quit watching football. Maybe not. Seriously, that is utter insult. I think it's their way of telling us they don't like us. They just cannot be serious.
     
  9. Lucho-the-Legend

    Nov 9, 2004
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Please tell me this is just speculation made by Luque and his father agent:

    Luque plays down Barcelona talk

    Now this would be a horrible buy

    -------------------------------------------------------

    As for Ten Cate's replacement Johan Neeskens, he is still mulling over the offer. (i know it is tribal but atleast it is in english)

    Here is Neeskens background:
     
  10. Lucho-the-Legend

    Nov 9, 2004
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Sport.es is reporting the striker options for Eto'o back-up are as follows:

    Plan A - Forlan
    Plan B - Gudjohnsen
    Plan C - Crespo

    ?????????? do they ascend the alphabet back wards in Spanish? cause my priority list would be the other way around!!!

    Crespo has been mentioned on these boards but hasn't been on the presses radar or mentioned by Barca. This is an interesting show of interest by Tkiki, especially since he would be a fitting replacement to Larsson. Both has similar characteristics in their game, although Hernan is better IMO. Plus at 31 (in July), he wouldn't be commanding as high of a transfer fee than most on the market. There is the issue of him taking up a non-EU place (Eto'o, Dinho, Marquez have them currently), although I believe he does have an Italian passport. Hopefully he works out.
     
  11. chrisc

    chrisc New Member

    Aug 23, 2000
    Portland, OR
    Yeah, if Crespo is actually a realistic option, I have no idea why the board is dicking around with the notion of signing Forlan. Villarreal are only going to hold us hostage for him. 23 million buyout clause? Sr. Roig, what are they putting in your paella?
     
  12. ronaldinh010

    ronaldinh010 New Member

    Jul 5, 2005
    Detroit, MI
    Does Forlan have an EU passport? Crespo would indeed be my first choice in that list. Chelsea got Scheva and Kalou (I have no idea why we didn't even think about that guy), so I'm sure they're looking to sell him. 23million is absurd for Forlan. How much did we sell Riquelme for? Man, I won't waste any more energy on this. I hope Barca knows what it's doing.
     
  13. Greddy

    Greddy Member

    Jun 24, 2003
    Chicago
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Couldn't agree more.
     
  14. FORMAL

    FORMAL Member

    Jul 24, 2004
    NYC
    didn't like talks of this signing last year, but now think Luque would make a good fit as the larsson replacement, he brings the same versatility of a gudjohnson, he's catalan as far as i know, and he's coming off a rough year and should expect to have to fight his way off a bench somewhere. great upside to him.

    can't see forlan fitting in our system to play simultaneously w/ eto'o, only to replace. not worth the money they are talking, though i do like him. i'd rather see laporta go out on a limb and pick up david suazo. he is basically a stronger but slower version of eto'o, possibly better footwork. think he would make a solid substitute or complement to eto'o and since juve is no longer in the mix we could probably pick him up at a bargain.

    despite that, as unlikely as it is, i'd love to see crespo in a barca jersey next season.
     
  15. elchico

    elchico Member

    Dec 13, 2003
    Lebanon
    I think we all unanimously agree that Crespo would be the perfect replacement...actually i was just discussing how fit a replacement Crepso would be, with a friend of mine on the phone. Let's hope Laporta's hot streak continues...
     
  16. astabooty

    astabooty Member

    Nov 16, 2002
    China
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yup, crespo is the best choice.
     
  17. tapper

    tapper New Member

    Mar 9, 2005
    Austin, Tx
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed...though I also like FORMAL's suggestion of David Suazo. Crespo and Gudjonssen and we could finally see some of our stars get a rest. After two straight titles, the Champions League title, and this a World Cup year, the players could get tired next season.

    We could still use that back-up centerback...even Puyol will get tired at his current pace.
     
  18. RemiNL

    RemiNL New Member

    Mar 8, 2006
    I highly doubt it though, reports are that Crespo wants to head back to Milan, and after losing Shevchenko, I doubt they will lose their chance at signing him.
     
  19. Kobranzilla

    Kobranzilla Member

    Sep 6, 2001
    NY F'in City
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When Milan get's dispatched to Serie C, he will change his mind
     
  20. astabooty

    astabooty Member

    Nov 16, 2002
    China
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Suazo would also be good, but I dont feel like Barca holding another young, talented player back. Suazo should be a starter to wherever he goes.
     
  21. Lucho-the-Legend

    Nov 9, 2004
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    But would it be logical for Milan to bring in a 31 year old striker, who hasnt started in two years to replace as starting striker. They might as well test the waters for a better striker or take both.
     
  22. astabooty

    astabooty Member

    Nov 16, 2002
    China
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good point Lucho. Crespo is a very good player and has a good relationship with Milan, but why would AC MILAN want him?

    I haven't been keeping up, but it seems that the Sheva move WILL go through, leaving Gilardinho and Pippo as the strikers. Gilardinho and Pippo are already competing for the spot as the pure striker, the goal scorer, idk, whatever. Crespo is the same type of player imo. Signing him would give them 3 strikers of the same kind and no real second striker, unless if they wanna use Kaka there which I do not believe they have in the past. If Milan want to play 2 finishers at the same time, then it would be a good signing, but I dont think they will play like that.

    Also can someone please link me to an article discussing the whole match fixing scandal? All I know is that Juve may get relegated and that Milan, Fior, and Lazio (maybe them) may be involved.
     
  23. RemiNL

    RemiNL New Member

    Mar 8, 2006
    I just haven't seen anything to suggest such a transfer would be realistic. I think Crespo will end up in Serie A regardless of what happens with the match scandals. Also, does he have an EU passport?

    There's also news now of Valencia also pursuing Forlán, but it doesn't make any sense since Roig has already said no to anything less than the full price.

    I think the ultimate outcome will be a signing of Gudjohnsen along with another striker to compliment, I think someone mentioned Mista before.
     
  24. astabooty

    astabooty Member

    Nov 16, 2002
    China
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't see why Villarreal would even want to let go of any of their key players right now. The Nihat signing was positive. Keep what works and add a bit.

    As for Crespo, I too see him in Italy. I would also guess that he has an EU passport. With all the time spent in Italy and many Argies have european blood.
     
  25. Lucho-the-Legend

    Nov 9, 2004
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Remi....on your news of Forlan to Valencia......idk, Moro, Villa, Mista are three players I would rate higher than Forlan, not sure if he would be any more of surplus if he were make this move.

    As for Mista, it was reported last week Barca were interested but nothing in the news yet this week. He would be a decent buy for no more than 5 million (Euros) and he is as good or better than Forlan but doubtful Valencia will sell off decent players to a top rival. Although none of their strikers are of a "world class" calibre...(NO NOT EVEN VILLA....we will see in a few weeks on this one) and they may just want inform choices during the season.

    Crespo, as mentioned earlier on this thread, is going to be 31 soon and really hasn't been a starter in 3 season. He is still of tremendous quality, IMO, but hasn't met the right system where he would be the starter. Milan may be his choice but they have an already aging squad and a 31 year old transfer doesn't help. Crespo's best case scenario in Milan is as a back up striker because they are sure to acquire someone in the off season maybe even a piece of the going to jail sale at Juve. Barca may seem like a better destination but the cards are in his hand

    Eidur would be a backup to Eto'o although in the past Chelsea has used him on the left wing and in the center. He would be a utility player if this is the case. Decent buy only if he were cheap. It was reported a week and a half ago when Henry made that huge mistake, FR reportedly said now I want Gudjohnsen.

    It should be interesting to see how this pans out, hopefully the name Luque never again comes into the picture.
     

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