U.S. international defender Berhalter joins 1860 Munich

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by mundial, May 29, 2006.

  1. EL MONO MARIO

    EL MONO MARIO Member

    Apr 9, 2002
    Montevideo, Uruguay
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why stay in Germans DIV 2... When a solid WC may have sent him to a better club...
     
  2. wu-tang beez

    wu-tang beez New Member

    Apr 19, 2002
    Irving, TX
    He's not BL1 tallent.
     
  3. Sachsen

    Sachsen Member+

    Aug 8, 2003
    Broken Arrow, Okla.
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    :rolleyes:

    Do we HAVE to overanalyze this? I'm sure Berhalter had many options open to him, and I'm sure he had his reasons for choosing to remain in the 2nd Bundesliga. I can think of a few:

    - stay in Germany, go to a great city (Munich)
    - good salary for a 2nd Bundesliga team
    - wanted to play for one of the best teams in the league rather than go to
    a 1.BL bottom feeder and face a season long relegation battle
    - thought leading a team to promotion was fun and wants to do it again

    He certainly would've played in the 1.BL if he wanted to, all he had to do was stay with Cottbus. So stating "He's not BL1 tallent" [sic] is ludicrous.
     
  4. yagua

    yagua New Member

    Jun 18, 2004
    I don't see this as such a bad move. Cottbus will likely struggle in B1 and be relegated next year. 1860 will at least be in the middle of the B2 table and with a little luck and a few good signings maybe even make it back up to B1.
    Not to mention that Munich is a kick ass city, especially compared to Cottbus, and he will play in a fantastic new stadium. 1860 also has a fairly big fan base considering it has to share the city with Bayern.
    Any word on how much thier paying him?
     
  5. Karl Lagodzki

    Karl Lagodzki Member

    Jan 26, 2000
    Bloomington, IN
    Totally. At his age, why does he have to try to prove anything? Take a good paycheck, play on a decent team, and live in one of the top cities of the world with less day to day stress than he would have in Cottbus. A great deal by any measure.
     
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    Plus he won;t be subjected to the racist abuse in Cottbus
     
  7. LittleMaradona

    Feb 25, 2001
    Is Cottbus in Africa or did he get a really dark tan?
     
  8. Sachsen

    Sachsen Member+

    Aug 8, 2003
    Broken Arrow, Okla.
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm trying to get it, I really am, but it just whooshed right over my head.
     
  9. taylor

    taylor Member+

    Jun 9, 2000
    Fav team: FC CARL ZEISS JENA
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Not if one/he believes the team is going to go through another demotion and or no other 1. team wanted him.
     
  10. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    How much do you see him playing in this Cup? Beyond that, as far as German clubs go, watching him week in, week out for years probably means a lot more than a nice summer tourney. Even if he played a lot and looked great, I'm guessing clubs that know him well would be thinking, "wow, he's playing well today," more than, "gotta get me some of that."
     
  11. illnevercheckit

    illnevercheckit New Member

    Jan 18, 2003
    Chatsworth
    I would like to think at his age, he would like to experience the German top flight before he retires. 1860 Munich migh not even get promoted anytime soon. They were one point away from relegation(from the article). I don't see them getting promoted. IMO, he had problems at Cottbus and left only to find that no one was interested in die Bundesliga. Therefore, he had to settle with the best he can get, 1860.
    I don't see why a person want to achieve the ultimate goal to get promoted then not wanting the challege of the next level, unless you're Donovan.
     
  12. abw

    abw Member+

    Nov 10, 1999
    Athens, GA
    Wasn't Cottbus in the 1.Bundesliga when he first joined them?
     
  13. illnevercheckit

    illnevercheckit New Member

    Jan 18, 2003
    Chatsworth
    dunno, and too lazy to find out, anyone?
     
  14. Martin Fischer

    Martin Fischer Member+

    Feb 23, 1999
    Kampala. Uganda
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, it was. And maybe the question ought to have preceded the statement.
     
  15. ohk4

    ohk4 Member

    Jun 22, 2003
    Yes, he was in the Bundesliga his first year with Cottbus. And a note on promotion: 1860 were one point above relegation this year, whicle Cottbus missed relegation the year before by one goal.
     
  16. Line9Foul

    Line9Foul New Member

    Jan 10, 2004
    Good ol' USA
    in your guy's opinions, does 1860 Munich have a bigger shot at being promoted than energie cottbus???
     
  17. Wahoo

    Wahoo New Member

    Aug 15, 2001
    Seattle, USA
    Well....... depends on how technical you want to be answering that question.

    Energie Cottbus got promoted this season (by finishing 3rd in the 2.Bundesliga with Berhalter) so they'll be in the top German Division (1.Bundesliga) next season.

    So.... technically there isn't anyway for them to be promoted unless they are first relegated.

    1860 Munich on the other hand finished 13th in the 2.Bundesliga last year so they could be promoted next season.

    :D
     
  18. bata

    bata Member

    Feb 8, 2002
    Nashvegas
    Didn't 1860 also narrowly avoid insolvency or somesuch? Seem to remember Bayern Muenchen having to offer to bail them out because of the stadium-sharing agreement they have at the flourescent doughnut in Munich.
     
  19. mick357

    mick357 New Member

    Apr 29, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Congrats Gregg. Well deserved and good luck at the WC.
     
  20. Soccerprep

    Soccerprep Member

    Aug 26, 2005
    Lafayette, LA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    $$$. It is the old East Germany vs. West Germany problem. Cottbus is in a very poor part of Germany (former East Germany). Munich is a different story. He probably will (I am guessing) make another million dollars playing for 1860.
     
  21. Soccernethost

    Soccernethost New Member

    Apr 16, 1999
    Plus, and I'm just guessing here, there's a pretty good chance Munich is a slight upgrade in terms of a city you might want to live in.
     

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