We've got a long way to go...[R]

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by scaryice, May 28, 2006.

  1. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    I'm a huge MLS fan, but I can't remember seeing a day like yesterday. It was one of the most agonizing days of MLS action I've ever seen:

    1) Two penalties, both of which were horrible calls. Plus, Scott Sealy's goal was offsides.

    2) No real standout goals, and a number of "defense sleepwalking" moments.

    3) An incredible amount of missed chances (NE-HOU, Thiago).
     
  2. Red Card

    Red Card Member+

    Mar 3, 1999
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Yesterday I saw two of the worst games in MLS as far as officiating goes. How are we supposed to be taken seriously as a league, when the refs are that bad.

    The DC-KC game was an absolute debacle, mostly in the first half. A phantom penalty call when Simms whiffed on the shot. A Sealy goal that was offsides, an Eskandarian goal which was mysteriously disallowed. The ref completely lost control of the game. I think the outcome wasn't affected. KC's difficulty scoring, combined with DC's performance, meant that DC might have won anyway. It's the "might" that should cause consternation. You never know.

    As bad as it was, it wasn't worse than the Col-RSL game. Other than the phantom penalty, the ref was just clueless.

    How can we let the league now as a group that the officiating isn't good enough?
     
  4. metrofan89

    metrofan89 Member

    Jun 13, 2005
    A little over board after just one week of sub-par games, no?
     
  5. THOMA GOL

    THOMA GOL BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 16, 1999
    Frontier
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Depends, because there are people especially on Bigsoccer that demand quality for their money, knowing that the quality on the field (whether in officiating or players) is a factor in helping improve the league in this country. IMHO I don't see anything wrong per se with expecting at least a commitment to excellence.
     
  6. alexdergrosse

    alexdergrosse New Member

    Jun 15, 2001
    Northern VA
    While the officiating may have a ways to go, I think the play on the field has been stellar this season. Especially the kinds of chances teams are creating and the way goals are scored - more (and better) shots from outside and better assists. Passing and teamwork seems improved over years past as well, across the board.

    Overall, MLS has come a long way in the past six years (which is when I started following the league).
     
  7. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On the Sealy goal... in all honesty, in a situation where the last field player and the goalkeeper have overlapped, that can be an easy one to miss. But that's not a defense. That goal did appear to be offside to me.

    And by the way... the key word there is OFFSIDE. Not offsideS.
     
  8. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    It doesn't explain the officiating, but I think the absence of World Cup players has revealed the lack of outstanding stars and the lack of depth. Also injuries- the Rapids keeper yesterday reminded me of a Sunday leaguer, but I believe he is the Rapids third string keeper.

    I still enjoyed the game.
     
  9. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I've seen several accusations of this on here, and it simply isn't true. Adu is standing on the post the entire play. It's impossible for anyone to be offside.
     
  10. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fill in the blank.

    The USSF should make its young refs get experience by _________ before officiating an MLS game. That way they won't make any mistakes.
     
  11. Talion

    Talion New Member

    May 24, 2004
    VA
    It's amazing how misunderstood the offside rule is.
    Adu was the last defender, not the next to last, since Perkins left his line to flap at the cross. The field players have no special status with respect to the offside rule, it just so happens that usually the goalkeeper is the last defender.
     
  12. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Quit hurting the cause.
     
  13. ursula

    ursula Member

    Feb 21, 1999
    Republic of Cascadia
    The Eskandarian goal was GOTW worthy. What? That was disallowed for no reason? Well make it the Non-Goal Of The Week!
     
  14. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Ya, RSL completed maybe two passes in a row several times yesterday.
     
  15. nick

    nick Member+

    Nov 23, 1998
    Potomac Falls, Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Eskandarian's goal was not only GOTW but would have been a contender for GOTY.
     
  16. nick

    nick Member+

    Nov 23, 1998
    Potomac Falls, Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well I don't know who you are watching but a number of the DC United games this season have been terrific on both sides. They are so far past the level of play back in 96, there is no comparison.
     
  17. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    I agree on DCU more or less ... but there's a lot of really horrible tactical and technical play still in the league otherwise. DCU is at the top of the conference for a reason.
     
  18. CheveLoco

    CheveLoco Member

    Apr 19, 2005
    San Diego, CA
    yeah without:

    Oliver Kahn
    Phillip Lahm
    Bastian Schweinsteiger
    Owen Hargreaves
    Julio Dos Santos
    Roque Santa Cruz
    Lucio
    Ze Roberto
    Ali Karimi
    Michael Ballack

    mjust 5000 fans showed up sadly..
     
  19. Sempuukyaku

    Sempuukyaku Member+

    Apr 30, 2002
    Seattle, WA
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Outside of the piss-poor officiating, the Rapids/RSL game was actually pretty exciting.


    My opinion.
     
  20. KMJvet

    KMJvet BigSoccer Supporter

    May 26, 2001
    Quake Country
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The ref for Col-RSL, I think that was his first MLS game and it wasn't an auspicious start. The other newbie did NE and Houston...I haven't seen it yet since I'm travelling but I guess that one went okay?
     
  21. the stranger

    the stranger New Member

    Dec 20, 2005
    He'll have to settle for the 2006 Wolde Harris Award
     
  22. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    Hurting the cause? You have to demand more as a fan, whether it's in regard to media coverage, the quality of play, whatever.
     
  23. crewfighter

    crewfighter New Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    Claddagh's Roof
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yawn. dumb thread. I saw nothing wrong with yesterday. Ref's make mistakes in every sport. The better team usually wins. D.C. United had that game the whole time. The rest of the games were fine. There was good play in most of them. You don't have thrillers every week in the EPL either. Jezus. Lame.
     
  24. ursula

    ursula Member

    Feb 21, 1999
    Republic of Cascadia

    lol!
     
  25. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas

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