Amado's Trade Value

Discussion in 'New York Red Bulls' started by Bora Fan, May 14, 2006.

  1. Brownswan

    Brownswan New Member

    Jun 30, 1999
    Port St. Lucie, FL
    At least he and Fernando could have it out 1 v. 1 without an interpreter.
    The way things are now:

    Amado: *&*%$!!

    Translater: Amado says he likes your tie very much, Mr. Mo.

    Mo: %$#%#@!!!

    Translater: Maurice dice, ¿Tienes un poco de café, Amado?

    They just aren't getting through to each other. However, Amado's actions (or in-actions) speak loud and clear.
     
  2. REMOVED

    REMOVED New Member

    Jul 22, 2004
    I am sure Amado has tons of personality limitations and is very difficult to deal with. But that was already determined BEFORE he was signed. If you want the best out of someone you do not humiliate him during a game. If I am the GM/President/RB official I tell the Coach: We hired him; now it is YOUR job to extract the most from him; trading him to another MLS club wont solve anything for the MLS. If the coach does not like him, then keep him on the bench or play him in the reserve games. Firing one of your best and highest paid players is not an option. Exactly how retarded is this league?
     
  3. Toad_of_Toad_Hall

    Toad_of_Toad_Hall New Member

    Apr 17, 2006
    A state of confusion
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can't argue with most of that. I just have to wonder, however, if all concerned really knew just how much of a head case and egotist he is before MLS took him on?

    Anyway, with AG there's an old saying that applies: you can't push a rope.
     
  4. Kaiser

    Kaiser New Member

    Nov 12, 2000
    dark side of the moo
    Reyna had said in the past that he'd like to finish his carrer in MLS after this world cup. I could be fantasizing, it's all a blur to me now.

    RB is not going to sit back and accept the current situation in NY. Bad team, low attendance. MLS also wants a quality side in NY. So the money would be there for Claudio. If he would come back here and help make RBNY a champion it could bring back the glory days of pro soccer in New York. Reyna is our Pele.
     
  5. nyredbull

    nyredbull Red Card

    Mar 8, 2006
    Trade him for Galo Galaxy. Lalas will be happy !
     
  6. Thomas A Fina

    Thomas A Fina Member

    Mar 29, 1999
    Hell
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh, jesus christ - a 30+ something Reyna on turf? He'll make Ramos look like a Lou ********ing Gehrig.

    Besides, I think his contract with Man City runs another year.



    and I disagree. I think RBNY have written this year off completely, will reload, make sure they have a director of Soccer Operations to go for next year, and go from there.
     
  7. djdustmite

    djdustmite New Member

    Aug 13, 2003
    NJ
    Are you suggesting that subbing a habitual whiner/under-performer out of a game in the 60th minute constitutes "humiliation" or did I miss something else here?

    It is clear that Amado will – for whatever reason – NOT bring his game to this team. That is NOT good for MLS. There is the potential that he WILL bring his game to another team. THAT WOULD be good for MLS.

    Cut him loose. At all costs cut him loose.
     
  8. djdustmite

    djdustmite New Member

    Aug 13, 2003
    NJ
    Oh, and as much as I am a fan of Reyna (and I am)

    Let's be very clear... He is not our Pele.
     
  9. P1brit

    P1brit Member

    Mar 31, 2005
    Novi, MI
    Club:
    Swindon Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Reyna may be great but he's not wearing your shirt any time soon.

    MLS should sell Amado and give Red Bull a good allocation.
     
  10. NYfutbolfan

    NYfutbolfan Member

    Dec 17, 2000
    LI, NY
    I have been asking for Amado'a departure for 2 years. I'm glad that it seems to be coming soon. I believe that NYRB would benefit by deducting AG. Even for noone.

    I wouldn't think of a trade of value for value because AG has a bad rep. No one will give RB the full value of AG's possible potential after he's already proved that he couldn't work well with Bradley, Lalas and MoJo.

    I would just hope that RB can pick up some talent in return, whether it's a Beckerman, Ballouchy, Klejstan, or a couple of high draft picks. The deletion of Amado and the addition of some solid cheap talent is a move in the right direction and probably the best we can hope for. I'd rather RB do that, then go for any more "old" talent.
     
  11. Bellus Ludas

    Bellus Ludas New Member

    Aug 5, 2005
    Greeality
    Ballouchy would be a great trade for you....seems to have a bright future. But can you imagine Ellinger trying to deal with Amado? Wait, this might be perfect...Amado would run the team and Ellinger. He just might like it there.
     
  12. Juan Luis Guerra

    Juan Luis Guerra Red Card

    Jun 11, 2001
    New York City
    Can you explain to us how exactly he was humilated during a game?
     
  13. REMOVED

    REMOVED New Member

    Jul 22, 2004
    Despite his whining and underperformance, the MLS hires him for relatively big bucks. If he is not actually bringing his best, then it is a question of motivation, relationship with the coach/management etc. Trade him so that Dave Sarchin can handle him? Or maybe you think Bradley or Sampson can do it? You hired him, you keep him and do the best . When his contract expires, let him go. Right now you have your highest paid player in the stands. Just great.
     
  14. REMOVED

    REMOVED New Member

    Jul 22, 2004
    It was very clear that he felt humiliated-thats why he went to the locker room. Subbed for a defender? You just dont do that; unless you plan to end your relationship with the player. How has this helped RB or the MLS for that matter? This is a small league that has very limited playeer mobility. So moving him during this crisis period is counter productive.
     
  15. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    He should feel humiliated when he sees the paycheck he gets and realizes he is being out-performed by players in a much lower pay bracket than himself. The fact is that Amado has been close to invisible for the team this year and he is not above being subbed. And subbing an attakcer for a defender is this thing called a tactical substitution. Teams do it from time to time when they want to get this thing called a victory. And considering how anemic the RB offense has been it was a smart idea to put a defender in and take up a little more of a defensive posture. You sure weren't giving up any offense by taking Amado out because he hasn't been providing any. Also Amado would do better not to sulk around like a child whenever things don't go his way. That is how you alienate the relationship with the fanbase (which Amado has done very well). You act like you are part of the team by respecting moves that may help the team. Then you sit with them and cheer your team on. Throwing a hissy fit and storming off the field has no place in a team environment.
     
  16. Brownswan

    Brownswan New Member

    Jun 30, 1999
    Port St. Lucie, FL
    This is almost willfully obtuse in ignoring the fact that all managers very often sub an attacker for a defender to preserve a lead. It is unusual to sub as early as Mo did for that reason, but he had another reason as well: Amado was a hindrance rather than a help. By replacing him he accomplished two things at once -- he brought on fresh legs (and Wynne contributed more to the attack from his defensive role than Amado did in midfield), and made a bid to preserve the lead.
     
  17. CRSvideo

    CRSvideo Member

    Jul 24, 1999
    New York, NY
    Sell him to Red Bulls Salzburg. We clear up his salary under the cap and get an alocation to bring another player in. Salzburg then does whatever they want with him (even if it might be just to dump him).
     
  18. irishapple21

    irishapple21 Member

    Apr 4, 2005
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Turks and Caicos Islands
    Excellent idea, except... Guevara would have to approve the trade. :eek:
     
  19. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    He's a professional. If sold, he would just go and perform just as you would expect a professional player to do.
     
  20. irishapple21

    irishapple21 Member

    Apr 4, 2005
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Turks and Caicos Islands
    I think he would have to approve an international transfer. I'm not sure how the rules work.
     
  21. Toad_of_Toad_Hall

    Toad_of_Toad_Hall New Member

    Apr 17, 2006
    A state of confusion
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    :confused: His behavior and performance, over the past several months, have done little to support that conclusion.
     
  22. djdustmite

    djdustmite New Member

    Aug 13, 2003
    NJ
    So you're suggesting that his salary should pave the way to a guaranteed starting spot? His salary functions as a free pass for his truly puerile behavior? NOPE. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid pal, there's plenty to be had cause you can have mine and from the sound of it you can have just about everybody else's on this board.

    I hate to say it but I just don't think Amado is all that bright. That he continually comes out to the press with inanities like "I was scared" PLEASE who does this guy think he's selling that to? Truly, it is laughable. That he doesn't realize that he's no spring chicken, that he doesn't realize his stock in MLS (and relationally with other leagues) is plummeting. I don't know... Amado, grab your ankles and pull your head our of your arse.

    JUST NOT SMART.
     
  23. soccerwriter

    soccerwriter New Member

    Jul 2, 2000
    new york
    Amado's trade value is going down quicker than a Thai hooker:eek:

    they'll be lucky to get anything in return. perhaps gbandi (who is in clarke's doghouse) and a pick. but there will still be the eating of a sizable amount of his salary since dallas' cap is tigher than a...i'll stop now. :D
     
  24. djdustmite

    djdustmite New Member

    Aug 13, 2003
    NJ
    No. Seriously, it's like the Hindenburg... "Oh the humanity!"
     
  25. trmtrm

    trmtrm Member

    Sep 19, 2002
    New Sweater
    Now there I was, sitting in the second row, watching him pass the ball into touch and watching the Fire run for 50/50 balls. I thought that's why he was humiliated.
     

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