Official 4/15 Super Hoops vs Crapidos Post-Game Thread

Discussion in 'FC Dallas' started by wcharriscpa, Apr 15, 2006.

  1. ArsenalTexan3

    ArsenalTexan3 Member

    Arsenal
    Sep 24, 2002
    Jakarta
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    1. The pk call was 50/50. I have seen some refs not even call a pk.

    2. The own goal was a husdtle mistake. It happens.

    3. Why was Goodson's goal called back? Didn't see anything that looked like a foul.

    4. Yes Goodson played terrible. See Posse, I'm not bias.

    5. Why can't rhine be as agressive as he was when he p[icked up the yellow card?

    6. The ref was terrible. How many cards did he show? What did he think this was Texas Hold'em or the Poker World Cup?

    7. Watching Party location wasn't too bad. Better than last year, but not as good as Pugsley's.
     
  2. Zé Bill

    Zé Bill Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    I'm wondering if an accurate comparison for Ronnie's recently-taken-care-of [hope hope hope] morale situation isn't Daniel Hernandez' and what Hernandez considered a by-passed midfield at New England?

    in other words not a player versus player dispute like at the Phil. Eagles?

    Mina, much better energy. Last year at mile-high he entered the game at 70' and was leaning hands on knees at 90'. Samurai sword-strike of a goal last night.

    re: in-game PBP thread posts about Goodson's disallowed goal, and the linesman in the upperleft corner of my TV screen...: That linesman is a big [and wrong-headed] bud-in-ski... He should make a call in that situation only if he thinks the central referee's attention is elsewhere, which it was not.

    I retract this criticism if it turns out that the central ref [by eye contact] requested the linesman's opinion. just my 2 cents.

    8k+ crowd in a huge stadium and chatty announcers with tangential stories---bad combo

    and speaking of the announcers not identifying who's on the ball:

    If FCD's jersey numerals were matte-flat-velvety black instead of glossy black they would be legible. Do you care, oddy-dahz?

    People people people! What could have made that second half more entertaining?

    a) [...your thought in this space...]

    b) my South Africa 2010 soccerball-as-microphone concept bringing astonishing soccer intimacy into your living room.

    its battery could be a spherical version of the flexible battery in Polaroid cameras [except lithium][google "Donald Sadoway" +slimcell]

    look up my old post about piezo-electric mikes...long story short: thump of kicks, players yelling, players conspiring before a free kick, and the whisper of the ball on grass. entirely do-able--- fuhgeddabouttit---are you listening, oddy-dahz?

    (the up-close sounds would cause any announcers to pay attention to the match, btw)

    c) FCD golazo of victory!
    something tells me I went beddy-bye right before something big happened at HDC
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    thanks to all the PBP posters--- that's a fun morning-after read!

    Dear Clay Goodson,

    [oldies singer] Momma said there'd be days like this, there'd be days like this, my Momma said! [os]

    I wonder if it was altitude effect on the brain---if I was a rigorous type individual (instead of the opposite) I'd look at Clay in Denver tapes and assess his decision-making. [you know, like Onyewu at Azteca, maybe?]

    btw---have you guys already taken down your Christmas tree?

    PS hope the FO is reading Rocket's "Wagner" thread here on BS FCD --- many effective ideas there --- they are so good that I have resisted the temptation to post a fanciful post there!
     
  3. The Gribbler

    The Gribbler Member

    Jul 14, 1999
    Cedar Hill, Texas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    supposedly offside, but basically BS.
     
  4. theramblingscot

    theramblingscot New Member

    Jul 14, 2004
    Norman, OK
    I heard they called a push on Goodson. Seriously, he was so off last night. I don't want Moor to play, but Clarence better step it up if he wants to keep his spot in the starting lineup.
     
  5. ihearttheburn

    ihearttheburn New Member

    Jul 26, 2004
    Denton/Plano, Texas
    I'm not quoting your entire post, but think about what you're saying. Clarence had ONE bad game. ONE... out of the 30 something he played last season and the first two of this year. You don't think it's a little too early to be calling for his head?

    Yes- let him get his head straight (and let his hair grow back). If he doesn't snap out of it? THEN do something about it, but one game is not an indicator of the whole season.

    This is the same Clarence who- with Vanney's help- saved our butts time and time again last season. This is the same Clarence who scored two goals at the peak of our slump in '05 because our forwards obviously weren't up to the task. This is the same Clarence who didn't think twice about getting into it with Landycakes for being the little bitch he is.

    Feel free to stop me. The Moor vs. Goodson debate will be saved for a later post.

    DON'T BENCH CLARENCE!!!
     
  6. 3rd Degree

    3rd Degree Member

    Feb 6, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There is a school of thought that says a coach almost has to bench a guy after a game like that. You can't go in to your locker room and tell guys to come fight hard and train each week to win a job and then leave a guy in when he has a meltdown. He may HAVE to bench Goodson to keep losing his locker room.

    maybe....
     
  7. Jambon

    Jambon Member

    Mar 3, 2000
    Austin, TX
    If it was only one bad game, I'd agree with your point. However, Goodsen stunk it up in the first game against Chicago as well. No own goals or PK's, but got beaten like a drum multiple times. So I'd give him two pretty poor games out of three which is quite a different picture.

    That said, I fully expect him to get the next start against KC based on CC's practice of not knee-jerking based on single performances. I don't disagree with that either. But if Goodsen doesn't have a solid game on Saturday, I'd be surprised if he doesn't find himself on the bench, and deservedly so, especially if CC is of the same mind as 3rddegree regarding Moor's practice form.
     
  8. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am mixed on whether that game was bad enough to bench him but I am worried by what I called the Ryan Suarez effect. He also was very good his first year and was a lightning rod emotionally. By the end of his first year he seemed to go out of his way to get steamed and draw cards. It kept growing his second year and eventually he became a liability. Goodson has embarked somewhat on that path. It is entertaining to get in other player's face but save it for big time offenses. When it happens every game something is wrong. He needs to step back and relax a bit. Notice how good Vanney is playing so far this year? Haven't noticed him needing to make someone his bi&%$ every game. I also think Moor is in that more relaxed Vanney mold and is very close to getting on the field. Clarence, watch out. If you give up that spot you may never get it back.
     
  9. wcharriscpa

    wcharriscpa Member

    Arsenal FC
    Dec 26, 2000
    Austin
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe this is commonly referred to as the "Sampson defense."

    :D

    (and I don't mean the Galaxative's Steve).
     
  10. Wacko4Burn

    Wacko4Burn New Member

    Apr 26, 2004
    Waco, TX
    It's the hair. Goodson is like Sampson. Somebody cut his hair. Until it grows back, no Badson. Instead, we get Wimpson. Bench him a couple weeks until the hair grows back.
     
  11. texgator

    texgator New Member

    Oct 28, 2003
    Plano
    I would think the more prevalent school of thought is that you support your players through a rough patch, and as long as they can rebound they are allowed to fight through it. You don't want your team playing scared, which is what happens if you believe one bad game takes you out of the lineup. The players want to know that they are supported by their coach, that he isn't constantly looking for a reason to bench them. Besides, Goodson is still young, I don't think Clarke wants to screw with his confidence.
     
  12. runningman

    runningman Member

    Feb 7, 2005
    East Dallas
    Probably a good idea not only to bench Goodson, but trade him. Hopefully a package deal with Abe. You can't count on former MD athletes.
     
  13. soccercptn

    soccercptn New Member

    Aug 9, 2000
    Plano
    Nope. He is an inconsistant finisher. He had several chances in that match that he could not finish. He is frustrating to watch because he has the speed and athleticism to put himself into great positions. Think Roy Lassiter.
     
  14. soccercptn

    soccercptn New Member

    Aug 9, 2000
    Plano
    Agreed. I realize a young player can lose his confidence, but this is where you find out if a guy is a "pro" or not. You challenge him. Moor has been doing well in practice recently, according to Buzz. If you are pushing for a spot in practice and a player has a poor game, you have to make the swap, reward the push, and challenge a guy. If Goodson can fight back and win his spot back, that is where you find out what a guy is made from.

    I have never believed in protecting people in sports. You have to be up front, have a heart to heart chat, and make a move to challenge someone. Otherwise, they never feel the push and they won't improve.

    If a guy can't stand up to being challenged early in the season, then you know that they have the personality type that is going to choke in the US Open Cup Final or in the playoffs. You have to bench Goodson.
     
  15. ZenCarver

    ZenCarver New Member

    May 26, 2003
    Richardson, TX
    Neither of Glen's finishes Saturday was a particularly solid strike, either. I thought the flubbed the fist shot pretty bad and was just lucky it rolled the right direction into an open net.
     
  16. ttujosh

    ttujosh Member

    Mar 9, 2003
    Dallas, Tx
    maybe one bad game you stick with the guy, but overall, I have been unimpressed with goodsons play this yr...so why not make a switch for a game, see if he raises his game back up?
     
  17. Chamo

    Chamo New Member

    Aug 9, 1999
    Plano,TX
    Goodson put in the worst individual defensive effort while wearing FC Dallas Burn colors that I can remember. For perspective sake, you should know that I remember Joey Martinez, Tom Soehn, Brian Dunseth and Ezra Hendrickson.
     
  18. texgator

    texgator New Member

    Oct 28, 2003
    Plano
    And Bobby Rhine.
     
  19. Chamo

    Chamo New Member

    Aug 9, 1999
    Plano,TX
    Even while learning on the job, Bobby Rhine has never had a single game meltdown like the four I named.
     
  20. ZenCarver

    ZenCarver New Member

    May 26, 2003
    Richardson, TX
    Clay did score a goal, even if it was disallowed. So even counting that, would you put him that low?
     
  21. texgator

    texgator New Member

    Oct 28, 2003
    Plano
    You're probably right. The only thing that sticks out in my mind was last season where he had a stretch of a few games playing poorly. He gave up two penalties in something like 4 games. But no ONE game stands out.
     
  22. Chamo

    Chamo New Member

    Aug 9, 1999
    Plano,TX
    If it had counted, all would have been excused. Just like Bobby Rhine against Chicago :D
     

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