Sammy Ochoa?

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by csctn, Dec 5, 2005.

  1. GCSOCCER19

    GCSOCCER19 New Member

    Feb 10, 2003
    North Carolina
    From what I understand Sammy Ochoa is now cap-tied to the United States. He would not be able to play for any other country, youth national team or full national team aside, because he participated in a FIFA sanctioned World Championship with the USA (U-20 WC). If I am correct due to this participation he is no longer allowed to switch nations unless presenting a appeal to FIFA and having it approved.

    I think I remember someone trying to do this and getting approved, DECO to Portugal from Brazil perhaps....

    I may be incorrect, but I thought this was the case in these kind of instances....
     
  2. SoulflyTribeFC

    SoulflyTribeFC New Member

    Mar 24, 2002
    I thought the same thing except Freddy Adu has been courted by Ghana and somehow can play for them.
     
  3. Namdynamo

    Namdynamo Member+

    Jan 1, 2005
    Sammy Ochoa can only be cap-tied to the US after he turns 21 (if he hasn't play for Mexico by that time yet) or if he get a game with the senior USMNT. Similar situation to the Italian American Guiseppe Rossi with Italy.

    Adu is now cap-tied to the US since he has played a game for the senior USMNT.

    By the way, how old is Ochoa at the moment?

    Anyway, I thought Ochoa turned down Mexico U-20 to play for the US U-20 last time?
     
  4. El Kapitan

    El Kapitan New Member

    Aug 28, 2005
    Ochoa is an 86, about to turn 20.

    As Namdynamo said, he's not cap-tied until he turns 21 (next year) or plays a match for the Senior USMNT.
     
  5. SoulflyTribeFC

    SoulflyTribeFC New Member

    Mar 24, 2002
    I thought he went with the US because they called him first.
     
  6. SoulflyTribeFC

    SoulflyTribeFC New Member

    Mar 24, 2002
    If there was ever any reason to call Sammy Ochoa into the game on April 11, this would be it. Cap-tie him now and then Mexico won't be an issue. Playing for your home country, especially when you play in that country's league, could be a big temptation.
     
  7. bob26

    bob26 New Member

    Feb 24, 2006
    [sammy is 19 he is 9-4-86 hey do you think sammy will be call to the us-23 for the Olympics? when do they start calling players for the Olympics???????
     
  8. GCSOCCER19

    GCSOCCER19 New Member

    Feb 10, 2003
    North Carolina
    I think you guys are right, but I believe once you compete in a youth championship sanctioned by FIFA you have to do some kind of appeal process in order to switch nations. Im not 100% sure but I think this is the case..........

    The appeal process of course is not guaranteed, as said earlier I believe DECO from Portugal had to do this because he had participated with Brasilian Youth National Teams....
     
  9. Shibb

    Shibb Member

    Feb 22, 2005
    Tampa
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is his home country Mexico or the USA? Where was he born? Which citizenship/passport(s) does he hold?
     
  10. SoulflyTribeFC

    SoulflyTribeFC New Member

    Mar 24, 2002
    He's a US citizen but he was born in Mexico.
     
  11. bob26

    bob26 New Member

    Feb 24, 2006
    sammy is 19 he is 9-4-86 hey do you think sammy will be call to the us-23 for the Olympics? when do they start calling players for the Olympics???????
     
  12. USvsIRELAND

    USvsIRELAND Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    ATL
    Of course he will be called for the olympics.

    If he keeps getting starts and scoring goals in the MFL he'll get a full USMNT callup after the World Cup maybe even before.
     
  13. rick10

    rick10 New Member

    Mar 30, 2006
    how do you think sammy will do this season
     
  14. Darthspud

    Darthspud New Member

    Aug 6, 2005
    El Paso, TX
    I saw the second half of the his game this weekend on Galavision vs Tigres (I believe). He had one great chance to score. He was subbed out around the 80th minute. I am not sure if he started the game or not though. The announcers made it seem like he had come in as a sub in the first half. The kid showed some good instincts on the ball.
     
  15. flux82

    flux82 Member

    Aug 9, 2001
    Mississippi
    According to Soccernet, he was a first half sub. Maybe an injury, but not sure.
     
  16. El Kapitan

    El Kapitan New Member

    Aug 28, 2005
    First half sub, the change was tactical.
     
  17. rick10

    rick10 New Member

    Mar 30, 2006
    Do you think sammy will be the socering leader next season if he starts
     
  18. El Kapitan

    El Kapitan New Member

    Aug 28, 2005
    Hard to believe, usually the champion striker of the league is a experienced foreign player (remember that in Mexico Sammy is considered a mexican).

    Yet, you never know, anything can happen.
     
  19. bob26

    bob26 New Member

    Feb 24, 2006
    Do you think sammy will start in the U-23 or if he will be call up and whant will be the best 2 FW in this U-23?????
     
  20. USvsIRELAND

    USvsIRELAND Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    ATL
    Hmm. Sammy and Possibly Johann Smith of Bolton?

    I donno.

    If Sammy continues to play well he will get a callup.
     
  21. Shaster

    Shaster Member+

    Apr 13, 1999
    El Cerrito, CA, USA
    Basically everyone from last U-20s are qualified for U-23 in 2008. So you have forwards:

    Ochoa, J. Johnson, Barrett, Watson, Nguyen, Peterson, J. Smith, Rossi (if he commit), Avizu, Zimmerman, and others.
     
  22. bob26

    bob26 New Member

    Feb 24, 2006
    [

    Ochoa, J. Johnson, Barrett, Watson, Nguyen, Peterson, J. Smith, Rossi (if he commit), Avizu, Zimmerman, and others.[/QUOTE]


    yes but who are your top 2 to play????
     
  23. USvsIRELAND

    USvsIRELAND Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    ATL

    yes but who are your top 2 to play????[/QUOTE]

    So far:

    Ochoa and Barrett.
     
  24. Parmigiano

    Parmigiano Member

    Jun 20, 2003
    I don't know. They didn't show that well together at the U20s. Not that they're both not good, I just thought they didn't compliment each other very well.

    That U20 team lacked a speed forward.

    Based purely on reports, I'd go with Ochoa and Smith. Ochoa has great touch but is big and holds the ball up very well. Perfect for pairing with a speed merchant like Smith (whom I've of course never even seen :)).
     
  25. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Fulham Football Club
    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    9/4/86 qualifies him for the U-20s next year, doesn't it? Isn't the cut-off pre-1/1/86?
     

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