Should Dempsey start at right mid?

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by darylgrove79, Mar 9, 2006.

  1. darylgrove79

    darylgrove79 New Member

    Jan 22, 2006
    Richmond, VA
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    The guys on "American Soccer" seem convinced that Dempsey should start at right mid.

    World Cup Blog - Depmsey Should Start

    Others prefer Convey and Beasley alternating wings. What do the Big Soccer people think?
     
  2. OutKast3000

    OutKast3000 New Member

    Jan 7, 2004
    based on the current squad available -- I'd say yes.

    But I'd rather see LD playing forward than attacking mid then.
     
  3. macheath

    macheath New Member

    Jul 8, 2005
    DC
    Convey and Beasley, although DMB is looking a little shakey. But he still has tons more international experience than Dempsey. Clint has come on very strongly in the past few games, but I'd still be inclined to DMB on the right, Convey on the left.
     
  4. Celo's Bicycle

    Feb 16, 2006
    Phoenix, AZ
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes. With Convey on the other side.
     
  5. Adam Zebrowski

    Adam Zebrowski New Member

    May 28, 1999
    and in 4 months you don't know whose form will be good...

    right now, dempsey and convey are in better form than beasley...

    beasley can turn it around by june...

    just as long as convey or dempsey stay hot, arena has some choices
     
  6. giffenbone

    giffenbone Member

    Jan 22, 2006
    Raleigh, NC
    Bingo
     
  7. Martin Fischer

    Martin Fischer Member+

    Feb 23, 1999
    Kampala. Uganda
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bingo, plus taking into account that neither Convey or DMB, IMHO, are nearly as good on the right side as on their good side.
     
  8. Sinter

    Sinter New Member

    Oct 12, 2003
    New York City, U.S.A
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Beasly on the right Convey on the left. Dempsey hasn't proven enough over those 2 to start yet.
     
  9. dmike

    dmike Member

    Jul 7, 2004
    SoCal
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ohh boy more Convey apologist

    The guy comes in as a sub vs a tired Polish team and suddenly everyone is sold on him. Remember Santino when he came in those sub situations and shined??

    Convey is not ready to start for the US. Dempsey on the other hand has gone through the aches & pains of international games. My final decision on Dempsey will be vs Germany which im sure he will play his typical solid game. You can easily tell the difference between this years Deuce and Last years. The improvement is so obvious you gotta be blind not to see it.

    Regardless, having Convey as a sub is a win win either way you look at it. As of right now Convey has shown way less than Dempsey in the international level. Doing good in CCC does not translate in being a instant hit for the NT.
     
  10. BED-STYPUNDIT

    BED-STYPUNDIT New Member

    Dec 20, 2005
    Brooklyn/Boston
    Yeha, but with the way Beasley and Masteroni performed in 2002, and to a greater extent, how Lionel Messi has performed, international experience is a total farce sometimes.
     
  11. Zathras

    Zathras Member

    Jun 16, 2003
    Minneapolis
    Depends on who is available. Dempsey does not make the starting XI if everyone's fit: Reyna, Beasely, Donovan, and O'Brien are ahead of him.

    If not all are fit, it depends on who. If it's O'Brien or Reyna, I think the nod goes to Mastroeni. If it's Donovan, maybe.
     
  12. marmand

    marmand New Member

    Mar 8, 2006
    I need to see more of him. First, he has to stop falling all the time. And i want to see some quality crosses from him. I don' t think he is quite ready for prime time.
     
  13. Scoobs

    Scoobs New Member

    Aug 18, 2005
    4-4-2:

    -------------------EJ/McBride------------------

    --------------------Donovan-------------------

    --BC/Bease----------Reyna------Deuce--------

    -------------------Mastroeni------------------

    Neverminding his excellent performances during
    Camp Cupcake, Dempsey has goals against
    Poland and England whereas others were
    stymied.

    I'm not a huge fan of the McBride/Donovan
    forward combination as I don't believe they
    provide enough scoring punch, but with
    Dempsey screeming out of midfield we've
    got another source for goals.

    Obviously he needs to continue rounding out
    his game.

    And the crosses will be provided by Cherundolo.
     
  14. DCSharksFC

    DCSharksFC Member

    Feb 28, 2003
    Virginia Tech
    yes,

    ralston can't do it, and noonan's alrite

    he'd be a good complement to cherundolo on the rite side, however, i have noticed, especially in the poland match, he does have a tendency to move further up than he should--leads to goals for us, but could be problematic come world cup time, where every one plans on pouncing on the others' mistakes
     
  15. Soccerprep

    Soccerprep Member

    Aug 26, 2005
    Lafayette, LA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    WHAT ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS

    ------------------McHead(or EJ)
    --------Bease---------------Landycakes
    Lewis-----------Reyna--------------------Dempsey
    Boca(Dunivant)------Gooch---------Berhalter/Boca/Gibbs(if healthy)-------Dolo
    -------------------Soccer God aka Kasey Keller
     
  16. Bruce (not Arena)

    Bruce (not Arena) New Member

    Mar 24, 2005
    Austin
    Right now I'd take Convey over Dempsey. Dempsey hasn't had as much experience and gets knocked off the ball too easily.

    If EJ doesn't find his form, you start McBride and Donovan up top with Convey on the left, Mastro/JOB and Reyna in the middle and Beasley on the right.

    If EJ is the real deal and not the new Clint Mathis, you start him with McBride and play a box midfield with Beasley, Donovan, Mastro/JOB and Reyna.
     
  17. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If we are playing the diamond and not the box, absolutely yes. Why start a left-footer on the right, when that player is going to be even worse in trying to cross the ball (from the right side) than Dempsey is perceived to be? Clearly, Beasley doesn't give you much crossing ability. Convey gives you GREAT crossing ability, but NOT from his right foot. Oh, and Dempsey isn't getting knocked off the ball too easily ............ he's getting fouled and getting the fouls called. I'll take that any day.
     
  18. england66

    england66 Member+

    Jan 6, 2004
    dallas, texas

    I agree with this and the thing that bothers me most about Dempsey is his seeming inability to stay upright....does the lad have no balance at all..? or is he just soft...? or is he just clueless about contact at this level...?? he seems to end up on the deck every time someone touches him....are his parents originally from South America...? is it in the blood...? for fcuks sake someone tell him to stay on his feet....tough enough to play at this level if you are vertical impossible if you are horizontal....can't remember anyone going down as often or as willingly since this chick I used to know a few years back....got her number around here somewhere.....
     
  19. the stranger

    the stranger New Member

    Dec 20, 2005
    At least somebody in this thread has seen Dempsey play since the England game.
     
  20. Sion

    Sion New Member

    Jun 5, 2002
    No one is talking about him getting his legs taken out and going down. Upper body contact lays him on his ass. This is a valid criticism of his game imo. He needs to stay upright; part of the problem is he does not initiate the contact, in effect bracing himself for the shoulder charge. That for starters would go a long way in keeping him on his feet.
     
  21. DutchFootballRulez

    Jul 15, 2003
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah the shirt pulling he's going to have to stay on his feet especially deep in midfield. He can go down like a sack of bricks around the 18 however..
     
  22. Scoobs

    Scoobs New Member

    Aug 18, 2005
    Neither Bease nor Donovan are natural wing forwards(I know Bease
    plays the position for PSV). Not sure about Reyna in that position.
     
  23. Scoobs

    Scoobs New Member

    Aug 18, 2005
    Dempsey is in the driver's seat to take that starting right mid
    position no matter whose healthy as he'll be available for
    all the friendlies. Obviously he has to continue to build on
    his performances.
     
  24. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My answer? No, it should be Claudio. He did fine last year there when SWP was injured.

    I like a player who you can count on drawing a half dozen fouls in the attacking third in the first half.
     
  25. GCSOCCER19

    GCSOCCER19 New Member

    Feb 10, 2003
    North Carolina
    I think the statement of Deuce going down to easy is only half-hearted true....

    Could the boy use some improved upper body strength, yes.... but he is a big guy at 6'1 and plays hard as nails. He is not scared of tackles and is willing to stick his boot, face, head into anything that might give him a chance at winning a ball or scoring. My college called it playing with your balls to the wall and I think Clint does that....

    On the other hand over the last year Deuce has becoming amazingly skillful on the dribble, and done this very fast actually....I cant say that I have seen another player pick up that creative flair to his dribbling that fast. He really has changed his mold to make himself more offense...he likes to run at guys, take people on, and is not scared to have a go at goal.

    BECAUSE OF THIS CHANGE I think he is getting taken down much more often. He has learned that small backside flick (similiar to a Cruyff but while still moving forward, or laterally) around his plant leg which is very effective and he has become very adept at using that quick step over. Because of this he is drawing more fouls because he is consistently beating people on the dribble and is not scared to continue going at them.

    I think he has become a target because coaches/players know he is very dangerous now coming out of the mid-field
     

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