does any know how many coaches coach Portugal in the Euro 84? Portugal made it to the semi-finals the only lost against the host country. I will give you guys to 8:45 before I give the answer. We can do the same in 06
4 minutes to google that isn't enough time, Frank! But does anyone else feel COMPLETELY OUTRAGED by this? I mean, he wants to learn English to coach England, yet he never learned Portuguese to coach Portugal. It's almost hypocritical to a point!
Outraged? No. He is simply looking out for his best interests, which don't include Portugal. If he had a contract 'til, say, after the final of Euro 08 then yes, I would be upset, but he will be free after the WC this summer and is doing what he needs to do to get a nice paycheck...
Out of this world in 1984 Portugal had four coaches, we never did it again, can you see us been coach by Artur Jorge, Manuel Jose, Queiroz and Humberto Coelho, http://www.fpf.pt/seleccoes/futebol11/masculino/aa/historial/historial80.php Fernando Cabrita, António Morais, António Oliveira "Toni" e José Augusto we finish in 3rd place and lost to France 3-2 after leading most of the way by 2-1, in the day France had players like Tigana, Platini, and were playing at home, we lost the game in the last 5 minutes. after 1984 Jose Torres, took the team to the world cup in 1986, winning the first game against England 1-0 and then the players went on strike, the Saltillo fiasco.
how many contending national teams have had a foreign coach? In recent memory...England! Big Phil does things his way....if he rubs ppl the wrong way, big deal. He does whats best for the team. He didn't call Romario to play for the Brazil team and he was yet again ripping up the domestic league in Brazil. He benched Rui costa, Couto and others after the debacle against Greece. foreign Coaches are not a bad idea, but the philosophy need to be the same. He will not work put in England because he is used to having players with sublime technical skill who pass the ball and not a team the uses the long ball. Firing him now would be a dumb move.....He will work towards bringing the cup to portugal, to suggest otherwise would be cynical. winning it with Portugal will only up his asking price, and as long as we win it...i dont care
I'm saying perennial contenders....South Korea or Japan or any African Nations are hardly perennial contenders. Good teams, but hardly contenders
The one problem (in the past) with Portuguese coaches has been thier ties to certain Portuguese teams. Are we past this or do you guys think this still may be a problem ?
Portugal is no more of a Perennial contender that SK. Therefore we can add Portugal to this category.
very true....how about perennial underachievers!!? Under Scolari, Portugal has performed well and continue to do so. If it ain't broke don't fix it. As much as I hate his recent comics, firing him now could be suicide. Everything is in line for a good tournament. Many key players are in fine form. If he wants to leave after, let im go after the WC!
IMO we're past this a long time ago, I hope. With (ex-Benfica) Humberto Coelho's good showing and (ex-Porto and Sporting) Oliveira having already coached the NT in the past years, I feel the club-ties conspiracy theories would be kept to a minimum
It's funny because the Brazilian posters praise scolari while we judge him unfairly. Like him or not he made out team better in the lockeroom and as a team. He will leave for England because he wants the big bucks and that is his only destination.
Here is the problem in question. Let's just say that Scolari stays, and is guranteed in England after the cup. No doubt the players mentality will be focused on the games at hand. But how will the coach feel, remember he'll be leaving win or loose. Will he be coming to the hotel from one of our games, and rather then preparing for the next game will he be watching his future team's games? When you go to a WC you have to be focused 120%. Just like England should've fired Erickson after these recent incidents. We need to fire Scolari, if he wasn't happy with the contract he should've said so. Your either with us or against us.
Don't know if you remember, but I allways defended him. One way I can accept his comments were that they were taken out of context. But he needs to come out publicly and say "Eu estou com a minha seleccao, e somos candidatos". If I heard this then he's the men.
How about trading Scolari for Erickson? Seriously though, I wouldn't fire Scolari over this, especially with the World Cup coming up soon.
Scolari is a good coach and has good motivational skills, he knows how to handle with the players and create a good atmosphere in the locker room. But since he is in Portugal he showed that: 1- He is a poor tactician 2- He doesn´t go to the stadiums to watch the players 3- He never went to Dragão to see FC Porto despite saying he was there several times! 4- He bought an unecessary war with FC Porto, he only had to explain why he didn´t called Baía. 5- He can´t accept criticism on his methods, tacticts, players called etc 6- Despite what some of you say we didn´t play good football, since Scolari is our coach i can remember 3 or 4 great games, no one can compare the football we played under Humberto Coelho or even Oliveira until WC... 7- Scolari is coaching our the best national team probably since the 60s... 8- He is a stubborn person like we saw in the first game against Greece in the euro... and that already caused us problems in some other games for instance keeping Ricardo on the goal... 9- And now offering his services to the English...please no need for that even more saying that he is doing a great work, that Portugal was poor before his arrival etc etc i am not against him talking with other NT´s or clubs but he can´t come to the press publicly saying things like this. 10- Things like this wouldn´t be accepted if we had a Portuguese coach, it would be the end of the world and everyone would demand the coach´s head. All this to say we are like always to subservient to foreigners...after all nothing new under the blue sky... P.S. Answering to the question of the thread, obviously despite everything i said... we can´t fire him now, this would only bring even more problems. We are stuck wit him at least until the WC.
I wonder how the players feel about this ? If they dont care, then yes we are stuck with him until the end. Now if the players are offended and feel he is abandening them, then we will have much worse problems with him coaching than we would have if he was replaced. Having said that, maybe Scolari has spoken to his players and has their support. We dont know what has been done and said behind close doors. Still, even if he does have the support of the players and remains our head coach, it does not take away from the fact that what he did was flat out wrong. At least doing it out in public, the way he did. Portugal should publicaly anounce that they are taking applications for his replacement for after the WC and then lets see how he likes it. Works both ways.