Most difficult League in CM (any version)?

Discussion in 'Games' started by Toffees_rule, Feb 5, 2003.

  1. Toffees_rule

    Toffees_rule New Member

    Feb 11, 2000
    SFSU
    Okay, I have completed two seasons in the Bundesliga with Bayer 04 Leverkusen and narrowly won the Bundesliga chapionship over Dortmund (In true Leverkusen fashion I only needed a draw against Nurnberg at home to win the title and lost! Thank God Dortmund did as well! :D ) followed by FC Bayern Munchen. This with winning one German Cup and finishing in the quarters and semifinals of the Chapions League respectively.

    As well as three seasons in Serie A with Roma winnin Coppa Italia once, Serie A once and finishing in 4, and 3rd the seasons prior to that.

    And after comparing them I think the German championship is harder to win because there are more teams that can beat you at all the wrong times. (I fear an away trip to Wolfsburg with 3 games to go holding a 1 point lead over Dortmund than I fear an away trip to the likes of Perugia or atalanta or Brescia for example.)

    Whereas in the Italian championship you know the team to beat in the updated version is AC Milan and Juve who have all the talent and tons of money.

    So it is difficult because you have to always beat them and can't allow yourself to drop points from more than 8 games and still realistically espect to challenge for the title.

    Not sure how this compares to La Liga as I have to manage there next with a title contender, (note, that does not mean the easiest way to win the title...so maybe Mallorca for example or Celta Vigo)

    The same goes for the Premiership as I typically manage Everton, enough said. More challenging would probably be Liverpool or Leeds, (before they sold everyone and their mothers).

    Unknown are the French Le Championnat or Dutch Honour Division...
     
  2. stattosoftware

    stattosoftware New Member

    Feb 3, 2003
    In CM1 play with Chievo in the Serie A. I won 7 straight to start the season then didn't win another game for the rest of the game.
     
  3. sinner78

    sinner78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 7, 2001
    It gets hard when the schedule gets heavy...
    Its impossible to keep the players 100% when you play twice a week ,every week....
    I reckon the english league is to hard win..
    due to the tough schedule and work permits...
     
  4. puddleduck

    puddleduck Member

    Mar 15, 2002
    Providence, RI
    The lowest Chech league is hell. Pure hell.

    Worst players on the face of the earth (in CM anyway). Absolutely no money, no prospects for making any, and the worst dregs of european football would rather retire than play for you.

    Getting promoted is hard enough, but then god help you if you actually qualify for Europe.

    Give it try, its loads of fun.
     
  5. Liverpool_SC

    Liverpool_SC Member

    Jun 28, 2002
    Upstate, SC
    CM '01/02

    I will stomach my pride and admit that I have had fits with St-Etienne in the French Second Division. The team is full of talented players, but they have terrible consistancy/loyalty and get happy immediately. Even selling a number of players - it can be tough to shore up a pretty awkward backline.

    I ended up trying with the team twice, and even when I could keep them well up the table (4th or 5th position) half of the players feel the club is underachieving/want to move to a bigger team/etc.

    There is always some team that starts off the season without losing - Le Havre went 16 straight wins in my first attempt, so you have to be almost perfect to keep up.

    Anyway, I would regularly dominate possession, put 20 shots on goal and score 1 or 2, while the other team would score 1 or 2 on five shots. I would have a goalscorer get really hot, then the next game he would take five shots and miss badly on them all.

    Finally the board fires you - even when you are in a good position. The transfer windows, EU player requirements and money problems just complicate matters.

    Not sure this is one of the toughest leagues, but I have had clubs promoted to the EPL and won the league within two seasons and won the SPL with Kilmarnock (without even replaying any games:)), so I can't be all that bad.

    I am currently playing NAC in the Eredivision. So far a piece of cake.
     
  6. flmls

    flmls New Member

    as silly as this sounds, MLS in the 99-00 game is difficult. You seem to get fired if you win. plus no one wants to go there usually, and the americans in the game are so bloody bad. English league is tough becuase most players don't want to play for you unless you are one of the big names (man u, arsenal, liverpool, chelsea) but i'm doing alright with boro. got them promoted to the premiership and finished second last season!! Still can't get players though they all want more money than i can give. can't wait for the new version to come out, mine is a hand me down. Just ordered the EA sports game too, should be here next week sometime have old hand me down versions of that one as well.
     
  7. Liverpool_SC

    Liverpool_SC Member

    Jun 28, 2002
    Upstate, SC
    MLS is tough because the parity is so extreme and the foreign player/roster limitations make it really tough to do what you need to do without hacks. The one time I tried an MLS team, my game crashed. It is also a pain, because there is no easy way to create a league setup that closely resembles the current article (post contraction draft).

    Another "problem" I have noticed. I can hardly ever get consistant results from a formation unless I incorporate man-marking. I might have a sensible defensive formation (say a 4-1-3-2) with players who have great positioning, anticipation, tackling and physical ratings. And yet they bleed goals. But if I set them to mark the striker(s) and or dangerous winger(s) - even if the personnel are not particularly strong in the marking rating - the goals stop.

    It frustrates me, because most of the successful teams in today's game play zonal defensive schemes or at the very most just keep a closer eye on certain players.

    Sort of OT I suppose, but a frustration nonetheless.
     
  8. KDdidit

    KDdidit Member

    Apr 15, 2001
    The Brookfield Zoo
    Serie C2/C is brutal, no one comes to your games and everybody that's on your team that's any good will want to leave ASAP and nobody, I mean nobody, wants to take their spots. You don't have the hopes of getting a lucky draw with a Serie A team because you're stuck in the C Cup playing teams just as sad as you are. You get no TV money unless you get promoted about 5 times and most of the teams start in the red anyway.

    Although for a different challenge try managing one of the lower league basque teams in Spain. Since you can only sign players with Basque nationality you have a very small talent pool and anytime you get somebody good Athletic Bilbao will try to buy them cause they're in the same boat as you are.
     
  9. Toffees_rule

    Toffees_rule New Member

    Feb 11, 2000
    SFSU
    I thought that they were just adding the Czech league into CM4, did they have it prior to the 00/01 season or did you use a replacement patch or whatever?
     
  10. Toffees_rule

    Toffees_rule New Member

    Feb 11, 2000
    SFSU
    Can you give me any off hand that I can try? I might resign from Roma in a few seasons and want to get the most out of 01/02 before the full version of CM4 comes out on the 28th.
     
  11. Canadian_Supporter

    Staff Member

    Dec 20, 1999
    Prostějov, CR
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Does a Czech patch exist for CM 01/02?
     
  12. The Double

    The Double Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 11, 2002
    Denver
    The russian league.
     
  13. subbuteo

    subbuteo New Member

    Dec 17, 2002
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I successfully promoted Crystal Palace to the Premier League and started off decently including a win at Liverpool. 23 straight losses later I did everyone a favor and 'retired.' But hey, they said I set some kind of record. That's cool right?
     
  14. minorthreat

    minorthreat Member

    Jan 1, 2001
    NYC
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    I don't know about Serie C2 being the most difficult in the game - if anything, it's fairly even, cause even though it's a very frustrating league to play, all the other teams are as crap as you are.

    The most difficult league in the game to win as far as I'm concerned is the Serie A. Most of the other top leagues in Europe have only two or three teams that can simply steamroll you. The Serie A has a good five or six, and one of them (Roma) is virtually unstoppable for the first couple of seasons.
     
  15. PSUdude

    PSUdude New Member

    Dec 15, 1998
    Elmhurst, Queens, NY
    MLS in any versionbecause no one that makes the game knows how to program it right...
     
  16. Zenit

    Zenit Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 3, 2000
    Above the Tear Line
    Club:
    Zenit St Petersburg
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll second this, especially with non-Muscovite teams. Impossible to get anyone to play for you outside of the former Soviet Union & some Eastern European countries; no money to speak of (hopefully this will get fixed in CM4, as UEFA.com has commented that this year the RPL seesm to be one of the few leagues with money to spend), tough attendance, no TV money to speak of, and anyone good exits stage right at the first opportunity or sulks until to let them go. I've had an OK time with Zenit in the domestic league & Russian Cup, but UEFA Cup & Champions league are another story.

    Best accomplishment to date is getting Lokomotiv St. Petersburg to the CL after winning the league.

    I'd also nominate the English Conference as one of the toughest.
     
  17. Beckhamcpt07

    Beckhamcpt07 Member

    Nov 16, 2001
    Amsterdam, the Netherlands
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This will give you a laugh but I think that the Dutch League is one of the harder ones. I am Feyenoord and first year we win the championship on the final day on goal differential over Ajax. PSV and Twente were less then four behind. And in this season I won the Champions League also. I finished the season with 77 points in 34 games. I won 24 games, drew 5 and lost 5. A though league if you ask me... because there is not quite as much money to be found although we have made a good amount of money on tranfers 16.25 million for Partick Paauwe (Real Madrid) and 20 million for Johan Elemander (AS Roma).

    Second Season I finished third behind PSV and Ajax.
     
  18. minorthreat

    minorthreat Member

    Jan 1, 2001
    NYC
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    That has more to do with the way the Dutch clubs are balanced, I think. CM rates Feyenoord as by far the weakest of the Dutch big three.
     
  19. ToffeeCrew

    ToffeeCrew Member

    Feb 11, 2000
    inches from insanity
    I think that one of the tougher leagues is the Argentine First Division. Boca, Velez and especially River are so much better than the rest of the teams. They have a bunch more money and have great youth development. The best chance you have is to not qualify for a south American tournement so you play less games and have better stamina. I have had some good success with Newell's Old Boys but I cannot seem to get anybody to come to the games, even after we won the closing championship. We average 15k in a 50k stadium. Oh well.
     
  20. costarica

    costarica New Member

    Aug 5, 2000
    Costa Rica
    I really dont want to sound ignorant, but......

    What game are you talking about? :(
     
  21. Toffees_rule

    Toffees_rule New Member

    Feb 11, 2000
    SFSU
    Championship Manager.

    visit www.sigames.com for details. It is the most popular computer game in Britain and continues to break records for copies sold. The company has been around for 10 years now and are releasing the 4th version of the game in March some time.

    You can preorder the game I believe and a demo on the website. It is a spreadsheet data based game with currently 27 opperable leagues world wide and expanding up to as many as 50ish in the next evolution. If you are into tactics and love the technical side of futbol then welcome to your new addiction. :D
     
  22. Beckhamcpt07

    Beckhamcpt07 Member

    Nov 16, 2001
    Amsterdam, the Netherlands
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The J-League is a tough especially if you don't pick Jublio Iwata, Antlers, or S-Pulse. They are all stacked compared to the rest of league. I picked Yokohama F Marinos. They had two quality players and a decent goalie. I ended up winning the league by by one point and there were five points seperating me and tenth place. Now, the teams that were relegated had 15 points and 7 out of thirty games. In general this is a tough league if you pick a crap team. If you pick one of the pick three that you are almost guranteed a championship if you are a manager of course, :).
     
  23. Toffees_rule

    Toffees_rule New Member

    Feb 11, 2000
    SFSU
    Imagine taking over Yokohoma FC after two MLS seasons where the team was relegated and had only 1 decent player, a striker...I managed to lead them to promotion after 2 seasons and then to 3 straight J-league titles against the likes of Jubilo Iwata twice and Antlers the third time...however the qualifying for Continental football was screwed up, Verdy kept playing internationally...*every year*!! Wtf was that all about?:confused:
     
  24. PSUdude

    PSUdude New Member

    Dec 15, 1998
    Elmhurst, Queens, NY
    Re: Re: Most difficult League in CM (any version)?


    Ah, Japan's DC United/Joe Public
     
  25. TrooperBari

    TrooperBari Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 3, 2001
    Jakarta
    Re: Re: Most difficult League in CM (any version)?

    One thing you'll find is that J-League clubs are given a lot of deference in continental competitions. Even a non-descript club, like Verdy, will roll through the Champions Cup or ACWC because almost every other club, outside of South Korea and maybe China, is all but cannon fodder.

    Whoever wins the competition gets an automatic entry into the next year's draw, even if they don't win a thing in their domestic league. Likewise, if a club wins everything, the game picks either the league runner-up or the Emperor's Cup runner-up (a.k.a. the S-Pulse rule).
     

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