José Gonçalves

Discussion in 'Austria & Switzerland' started by Nico Limmat, Nov 10, 2005.

  1. magicgam1

    magicgam1 Member

    Dec 22, 2005
    Lausanne
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Thun won't be happy if Gonçalves doesn't come back this weekend.

    Moyes confirmed: "He is in for a couple of days training.

    so, Gonçalves even might not go back to Thun before joining the Portuguese U-21 team

    and Schönenberger only knew about his trial with Everton via the media...
     
  2. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    All of what you say is correct, but in order to switch association at a later point the player in question needs to have both citizenships when he begins playing for one of the countries. The thing with Gonçalves is that he still lacks his Swiss citizenship, meaning he won't be able to switch if indeed U-21 friendlies (i.e. non-competitive matches) are association-binding.
     
  3. magicgam1

    magicgam1 Member

    Dec 22, 2005
    Lausanne
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    and since one year he's been waiting for the Swiss passport:(

    Crystal Palace seems to be interested in him as well
     
  4. CRonaldo_07

    CRonaldo_07 New Member

    Jun 15, 2004
    Wow sounds like this young man could be pretty good, glad to know hes going to join portugals u-21s even though we got alot of depth.


    I think the Swiss will top their group with francein the world cup, good luck:D
     
  5. magicgam1

    magicgam1 Member

    Dec 22, 2005
    Lausanne
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Everton is not interested any more and Gonçalves is not interested in Crystal Palace

    but he now is in negotiation with the Glasgow Rangers
     
  6. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    It seems Gonçalves is now looking at Heart of Midlothian...
     
  7. magicgam1

    magicgam1 Member

    Dec 22, 2005
    Lausanne
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    yes, saw this as well...

    there are two weeks left for a possible transfer abroad
     
  8. PeterBeer

    PeterBeer Member

    Oct 21, 2004
    Stockholm
    Why rush? This guy hasn't even completed his first Superleague season..
     
  9. magicgam1

    magicgam1 Member

    Dec 22, 2005
    Lausanne
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    he's been called up for the Portuguese U-21 for the friendly tournament next week

    Académica de Coimbra: José Castro;
    Boavista: Diogo Valente;
    Feirense: Semedo;
    Estrela da Amadora: Bruno Vale;
    Paços Ferreira: José Fonte;
    Penafiel: Bruno Amaro;
    F.C. Porto: Hugo Almeida, Ivanildo, Paulo Ribeiro, Raul Meireles e Ricardo Quaresma;
    FC Thun: José Gonçalves;
    Marítimo: Filipe Oliveira e Nuno Morais;
    Belenenses: Ruben Amorim;
    Portimonense: Ruben Fernandes;
    Sp. Braga: Davide;
    Sporting: Custódio, João Moutinho, Miguel Garcia e Nani;
    V. Setúbal: Varela.
     
  10. magicgam1

    magicgam1 Member

    Dec 22, 2005
    Lausanne
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Gonçalves played 90min while Portugal lost on penalties against Slovakia

    Portugal, 1
    Eslováquia, 4
    Estádio Municipal de Abrantes
    Árbitro: George Vadachikoria (Geórgia), auxiliado por Ricardo Santos (Portugal) e Luís Marcelino (Portugal)
    4º Árbitro: Richard Havrilla (Eslováquia)
    PORTUGAL: Bruno Vale; Filipe Oliveira, Zé Castro (Semedo, 20m), José Fonte e José Gonçalves; Raul Meireles, Custódio (Nani, 28m) e João Moutinho (Varela, 46m); Ricardo Quaresma (Davide, 46m), Hugo Almeida e Diogo Valente (Ivanildo, 68m).
    Suplentes:
    Treinador: Agostinho Oliveira
    ESLOVÉNIA: Jasmin; Aljancic Janez (Sluer Marko, 41m), Mavric Matej, Ilic Branko e Pecnik Andrej; Ranic Sasa (Zeljkovic Zoran, 60m), Zivec Simon (Zavrl Janez, 41m), Bersnjak Dominik e Gobec Sbastijan (Jokic Bojan, 79m); Birsa Valter e Zajc Gorazd (Ljubljankic Zlatan, 41m).
    Suplentes:
    Treinador: Branko Oblak
    Ao intervalo: 0-0
    Cartão amarelo para Pecnik Andrej, 37m; João Moutinho, 45m;
    Marcadores: 1-0 Gobec Sebastijan, 54m, 1-1 Hugo Almeida, 55m;
    Penalties: 0-1 Birsa Valter, 0-2 Ljubljankic Zlatan e 0-3 Bersnjak Dominik
     
  11. Comingwithrage

    Comingwithrage New Member

    Jun 16, 2005
    Haarlem (NL)
    Bye Gonçalves, Bye :(

    Only because we could not get him the swiss passport fast enough. Is it that difficult to arrange a swiss passport on a short term. :mad:
     
  12. PeterBeer

    PeterBeer Member

    Oct 21, 2004
    Stockholm
  13. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    I don't know, he might have still gone with Portugal. Oh well, you win some you lose some...

    I'm not nearly as upset as I was with Petric (where I put a large portion of the blame on the SFV.)
     
  14. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Article 15 Principle
    The way I read it friendlies by themselves are never association-binding at any level. The game has to be part of an offical FIFA or UEFA sanctioned competition (such as qualifying or a final tournament.) Where it gets tricky is when a player has an official appearance at the youth level and then an "A" level friendly. Some say that also qualifies as association-binding but I've never seen it in clear writing.

    Long story short, I think Gonçalves can still switch back... (although I highly doubt he will.)
     
  15. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    The door is still open:
    Source: Top11
     
  16. magicgam1

    magicgam1 Member

    Dec 22, 2005
    Lausanne
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    good luck José in Scotland!
     
  17. manic jambo

    manic jambo New Member

    Jul 16, 2001
    Edinburgh
    Looks like we have got our man. I have read through this complete thread and I am a bit confused over this nationality/passport issue.

    What exactly is the story ?

    And his foot problem - is it serious ?

    Thanks guys


    ( Looks like we also beat our old friends Basel for Juho Makela, Finland striker :) )
     
  18. magicgam1

    magicgam1 Member

    Dec 22, 2005
    Lausanne
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    his parents are from Cabo Verde, but he was born in Lisbon and got a Portuguese passport

    when he was 2years old, his family moved to Switzerland

    one year ago, he requested the Swiss passport as he's eligible for it after so many years in Switzerland... but he still hasn't received it. As he's only played for Portugal on U-21 level, he still could play for the Swiss team and as he would be interested in so we hope he gets his passport asap.

    he will have to have his toes operated and he should have done it at the beginning of January, but he postponed the operation because he wanted to play for the Portuguese U-21. He's going to be out for 2 months after the operation.
     
  19. manic jambo

    manic jambo New Member

    Jul 16, 2001
    Edinburgh
    Thanks mate.
     
  20. magicgam1

    magicgam1 Member

    Dec 22, 2005
    Lausanne
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Gonçalves was reported injured for the last game - what does he have?
     
  21. Scottish_Morton

    Jul 7, 2003
    Irvine, Scotland
    He's on the bench today, he had an impressive debut against Aberdeen last month but he'll find it hard to displace Fyssas at left back.
     
  22. PeterBeer

    PeterBeer Member

    Oct 21, 2004
    Stockholm
    Can Fyssas play in any other position or was José bought to provide competion for Fyssas?
     
  23. Scottish_Morton

    Jul 7, 2003
    Irvine, Scotland
    Competition. Hearts have a very large squad right now after bringing in about 9 players in January. The majority shareholder Vladimir Romanov buys all the players, more players than the manager Graham Rix knows what to do with...
     
  24. Scottish_Morton

    Jul 7, 2003
    Irvine, Scotland
    I've just looked it up and it was 11 players Hearts signed in January. That's to go along with the 9 they signed in the summer. Add the 4 Scottish internationals already there and a few others and you have a very big squad. There's about 30 first team players at Hearts.

    Goncalves actually signed for FBK Kaunas and is on loan to Hearts, along with a few others like Bruno Aguiar and Edgar Jankauskas.
     
  25. PeterBeer

    PeterBeer Member

    Oct 21, 2004
    Stockholm
    Wow! That's a surprise! Although I knew the Lituanian owner did som business with his home-country. I hope he's not crazy and will let José play in the Lithuanian league:confused:

    To me Romanov sounds a bit like Marc Roger (the former owner of Servette)
     

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