[Crew Forum]Quakes are "Dead Team Walking" but Governor Called and KC Gets a Stay

Re: Quakes are "Dead Team Walking" but the Governor Called and KC Gets a Stay (Crew)

Will Snoop Dogg come to the Earthquakes' defense?

 

Re: Quakes are "Dead Team Walking" but the Governor Called and KC Gets a Stay (Crew)

Didn't stop the Arena Football league. The Detroit Drive went to the Arena Bowl in all 6 years they existed (they won 4 of them) only to be moved and then folded a year later. If only the MLS could be as massive as the AFL...

 

Re: Quakes are "Dead Team Walking" but the Governor Called and KC Gets a Stay (Crew)

I'm sure Lamar is just going to tell folks to pony up cash for another year while he dangles the carrot around looking to complete an ownership transfer deal. That defines a "major" announcement for HSG.

 

Re: Quakes are "Dead Team Walking" but the Governor Called and KC Gets a Stay (Crew)

Now we get to find out if AEG really had a deal to move the team to Houston. They put that out to get San Jose to finally talk, and it almost worked. I never believed that Houston would be ready for the 06 season, so I expect AEG to once again give the Quakes a one year extention.

 

Re: Quakes are "Dead Team Walking" but the Governor Called and KC Gets a Stay (Crew)

Here's the formal story about KC staying put for '06:

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=352144&cc=5901

 

Well, I can empathize. I know how it is to lose a team against your will. My dad and I cried real tears when the Jazz left N'awlins and my cousin from Quebec still won't watch an Avs game after all these years. And any Browns fan can (and will) give you the most anguish-ridden story of team seperation ever. I figure that the MLS will be back in they bay eventually, and for that matter, probably in S. Florida, too, but for now, business is business, as usual.

 

one thing I'm worried about, should SJ lose their team, is that we might reaquire one of our infamous lost fans, a certain Aimer that used to post here all the time. Hopefully she'll embrace the Galaxy, but given our luck this past year you never know.

 

The horror!

 

This seems like a positive move for MLS. With a fresh start in Houston, there's always the opportunity for a winning hand, but in SJ, it just clearly wasn't working out.


I think the best news of the day was actually the bit about Salt Lake's new stadium. Expanding to Salt Lake was one of the league's best moves ever, and this franchise is clearly in it for the long haul. The location for the RSL stadium is fantastic, probably the second best location in the league, behind only the Crew's.

 

Back in the Miami-Tampa Bay days, there was a certain consistency to the attendance rankings. At the bottom of the table were...

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                        OVERALL            HOME                       ROAD
TEAM                    RECORD   GAMES     TOTAL   AVERAGE   GAMES    TOTAL   AVERAGE
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2001
Miami Fusion            16-5-5     14     156,481   11,177     12    171,282   14,274
Kansas City Wizards     11-13-3    13     142,402   10,954     14    166,060   11,861
Tampa Bay Mutiny         4-21-2    14     146,704   10,479     13    217,347   16,719
San Jose Earthquakes    13-7-6     13     125,250    9,635     13    207,954   15,996

2000
San Jose Earthquakes     7-17-8    16     199,364   12,460     16    197,909   12,369
Tampa Bay Mutiny        16-12-4    16     151,232    9,452     16    219,245   13,703
Kansas City Wizards     16-7-9     16     145,793    9,112     16    234,090   14,631
Miami Fusion            12-15-5    16     119,352    7,460     16    212,710   13,294

1999
Tampa Bay Mutiny         14-18     16     209,700   13,106     16    233,142   14,571
Dallas Burn              19-13     16     195,381   12,211     16    208,346   13,022
Miami Fusion             13-19     16     139,021    8,689     16    261,679   16,355
Kansas City Wizards       8-24     16     130,924    8,183     16    191,229   11,952

1998
Dallas Burn              15-17     16     175,162   10,948     16    198,315   12,395
Tampa Bay Mutiny         12-20     16     164,999   10,312     16    226,433   14,152
Miami Fusion             15-17     16     164,548   10,284     16    253,269   15,829
Kansas City Wizards      12-20     16     129,163    8,073     16    230,245   14,390

The Clash were generally around seventh in the league in attendance.

 

Re: Quakes are "Dead Team Walking" but the Governor Called and KC Gets a Stay (Crew)

I stand corrected.

Good luck San Jose in your efforts to get your club back.

 

Yep.

Basically following the standard the NFL set with the Cleveland Browns.

 

I call bull**********.

The Mutiny were always near the top of everyone's chopping block, as early as 1998. Them and the Wiz.

There was really no contest in those first six seasons. San Jose outdrew Tampa in five of six seasons. Over that time, they averaged 2,645 more fans per game. Tampa only topped 12,000 in average attendance once, in 1999. The Quakes topped it four times.

The Mutiny had no owner, and no prospects for one. They had no stadium, nor any prospects for one. They too had a killer lease. In other words, they were like San Jose, except they attracted fewer fans and didn't even have potential owners kicking the tires, like SVSE was with the Quakes. Add in the fact that the Quakes were part of MLS' best rivalry and were the defending MLS champs, and it was no contest.

But contrary to your assertions, it wasn't much of a contest even before the filthy-haired Canuck's golden-goal at Crew Stadium.

There was much more promise in San Jose than in Tampa, thus the league tried to stick it out there and see if that promise could be fulfilled in the form of local ownership and a stadium. It didn't work, but it was the right decision.

To say that Tampa died for San Jose's sins is not accurate. Tampa's sins were to a greater degree, and there was much less hope of rehabilitation.

Sirk

PS- I think the league has made the right move in regard to the Quakes, but I just don't see how Tampa is the true victim in all of this.

 

Merry Chrismukkahwanzasolstice!

Galaxatives? like uh NEVER.

 

I can't remember who penned this but someone wrote a number of years ago about the success of MLS and how it should bring soccer to American through grass-roots efforts in cities that will support soccer instead of trying to shoehorn it into large cities based on "ethnic" base or some other real or perceived segment.

San Jose had a fan base (of arguable size), a rivaly with someone (LA and recently Donovan) and success in MLS (MLS Cup).

One different I would like to point out about Florida compared to the recent demise of the San Jose Earthquakes is that SJ, even though they have gone through ownership and names changes, have been in MLS since the beginning. Florida was contracted relatively early in the MLS lifespan. That doesn't make any of this right or wrong but I would consider the loss of San Jose more of a loss because of it's life span compared to Tampa and Miami.

 

So some team that is wearing a different color will come to CCS and receive an extra large helping of Sigi-smackdown next year.

 

Sirk is his real name.

wow, i made another post. maybe it's not a cameo.

 

Your inability to recognize humor is stupifying at best and honorable mention special olympics material at worst. I suggest you look into David Cross' material about the people in LA that are "going to make it".

 

Watch your tongue, Sirkie Boy.