Real Madrid vs Getafe Dec 03, 2005 [R]

Discussion in 'Real Madrid' started by RaDiuM, Nov 28, 2005.

  1. Adrian Cocot

    Adrian Cocot Member

    Dec 8, 2003
    Cleveland
    I've been getting that one a lot lately too.
     
  2. galactico(12)

    galactico(12) New Member

    Sep 14, 2005
    This was a disgraceful and humiliating performance from players and the manager... as we have come to expect from this RM team now. :rolleyes:

    However, a few positive things to take out of it:

    > three much needed points against a good opposition.
    > R9 scores on his comeback, and hopefully this will spark him into his early-season form again.
    > Beckham off, and he will now miss the next match, and maybe more. :D IMO this can only be good news. Finally someone else gets a chance to play a decent run of games... Maybe now is the time to be optomistic. RM can once again play good, stylish football... for the next match at least ;)
     
  3. KrystianR9

    KrystianR9 New Member

    Feb 5, 2004
    i am surprised how so many people think beckham should not be played in the first team. I personally thought he was playing really well..but maybe you people are right...i dont even know what to think anymore...get a new team maybe..and just leave casillas, raul, ronaldo, graveson, ramos, and maybe baptista..get rid of the biggest stars...except of raul and ronaldo.
     
  4. Chinky24

    Chinky24 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Dec 26, 2004
    Nashville
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Why don't you coach Real Madrid and win us the treble this season?
     
  5. deVil_X

    deVil_X Member

    Jul 3, 2005
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    you are an ignorant man...you have my pity
     
  6. Adrian Cocot

    Adrian Cocot Member

    Dec 8, 2003
    Cleveland
    Well, if you're going to play counter-attacking football, then don't take out your only all-out striker, and the only real goal-scorer. Take out Zidane or Guti, both of whom have been anonymous, and put in Gravesen who is in the very least a physical presence in midfield and who can stand the pressure a lot better than the other two.

    This is a team with problems which have been worsened by the coach in the past six months. Even last year, when Real had no real DM, they looked better than they do now.
     
  7. Iberian

    Iberian Member

    Jun 10, 2004
    New Jersey, USA
    Yeah, me too ;)
     
  8. galactico(12)

    galactico(12) New Member

    Sep 14, 2005

    man, if only they gave me that chance hey? I'd sure as hell do a better job than luxa.
     
  9. GRBomber

    GRBomber Member

    Sep 12, 2005
    Brasília - Brazil
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Don't say that.
    Beckham has his style of play. He does not adapt too much to the others around him.
    I think it will be positive to play a match without him.
     
  10. GRBomber

    GRBomber Member

    Sep 12, 2005
    Brasília - Brazil
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I agree with the first part.
    How many points did Real have at this point last season?
    Anyone knows?
     
  11. reelmaad

    reelmaad New Member

    Oct 22, 2004
    Where did you guys see Becks going off on Luxa.....The only such incident i saw was him going off at someone on the Getafe bench.
     
  12. climax

    climax New Member

    Jul 13, 2004
    Kolkata, Montreal
    LOL! Becks a huge talent? Haha! He is very hard working, but a huge talent? All I see him do mostly is send in a long ball, which often turns out to be a waste. Actually Beckham's long balls are a bane more than anything. He gives a 110% but cannot change the outcome of a match single-handedly and, thus, gets frustrated. A player who could actually play on the ground (and also work as hard as Becks) would benefit Real immensely at the moment (there is really no point in sending long aerial balls, but through balls are required for Ronaldo to latch onto them...these are not coming from Zidane anymore).
     
  13. deVil_X

    deVil_X Member

    Jul 3, 2005
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Beckham has been our best outfield player...You wanna take him out? Allright,all the haters got their wish...Let's see then shall we?
     
  14. GRBomber

    GRBomber Member

    Sep 12, 2005
    Brasília - Brazil
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    It was said on the radio, but I was not the one to hear it.
     
  15. Adrian Cocot

    Adrian Cocot Member

    Dec 8, 2003
    Cleveland
    Yeah, Beckham does get easily frustrated. But it's the job of the coach to keep his players in check. I'm guessing that Alex Ferguson did a lot better job of reining in Beckham at Man U. I don't know how many yellows or reds Beckham got in his last few years in Manchester, but I don't think he ever got out of line like he did today, even though he did have his share of fights with Ferguson.

    I don't know, I think Beckham always tries his best. He's always seemed professional enough to me. And yeah, the only reason he's acting like a petulant child at times is because he hasn't been punished properly enough for it. When he got red carded earlier on in the season, the club did everything they could to get him back for next week's game and get his suspension reduced. Why? Probably because Luxa relies too much on Beckham's crosses and doesn't have a 'plan B' to resort to in the case of Beckham's absence.

    This is a mystery to me. On paper, the lineup looked really good. The problems for me came with the substitutions, or rather, the lack of. Garcia was having a bad game, and so was Robinho. I actually think bringing on Baptista for Robinho was a good idea, but Garcia, who was the worst player, was allowed to continue. I think putting Gravesen on earlier, either for Guti Zidane or Garcia would have had an impact earlier on. But then Beckham's had to get himself sent off and it changed everything.
     
  16. sdotsom

    sdotsom Member+

    Manchester United
    Mar 27, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC

    you are quite ignorant, and you will be eating your words after the next game. Do you think that now all of a sudden that Beckham is sitting, our team is going to play "beautiful passing football"? No. What's actually going to happen is that our Midfield will continue to be slow and unable to move the ball forward. Maybe all Becks does is the long ball, but with our Midfield, which can't get the ball to the strikers, that is not such a bad thing. Anyways, you will have your wish of no Beckham and we'll see what happens.
     
  17. GRBomber

    GRBomber Member

    Sep 12, 2005
    Brasília - Brazil
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Do you think Ferguson and Luxemburgo have the same freedom on their clubs to manage the players?
    Luxa got Beckham out when he was injured and he had to explain his reasons to everyone.
    That's not healty for any club or coach.


    I prefer to believe that Luxemburgo is not allowed to bench or punish Beckham. Don't you think that is more likely?

    I agree.
    But since the lineup looked good, how can you say (in your previous post) that the fans are tired of his systems.
    Last game he was stupid to put Robinho as a lone striker, but the rest of the team was properly put together.
     
  18. galactico(12)

    galactico(12) New Member

    Sep 14, 2005
    what disgusts me about some of you so-called RM fans in here is that you favour one player over and above the needs of the team.

    A team needs 11 players who can gel as a collective unit to be successful, right?

    What RM has is:

    > 10 players who have all been brought up playing a particular style of football. (ie. short passing, quik passing, keeping possession as much as possible, patient build-up, and neatly worked goals). AND.....

    > beckham who clearly has been brought up playing a different type of football. He is good at english-style football. (ie. very fast, long balls, crossing and headering). He tries very hard, and is great at what he specialises in... but that doesnt change the fact that his style of play doesnt fit.

    When you have a team where ONE player doesnt fit into the style, you're left with only three options... 1) Be unsuccessful. 2) Change the other TEN players regularly to try to accomodate the 'odd' one out. 3) Replace the 'odd' one out with a player who fits with all the others.

    The choice is so simple, and so obvious, yet some of you cant see it. Well you know what, thats fine... Beckham can make lots of money for himself and Mr. Perez... and you guys can pay your money and turn up to these matches... and watch your team get humiliated over and over again. :rolleyes:
     
  19. nuff_said

    nuff_said Member

    Jul 25, 2005
    BigSoccer - RM Forum
    I dont think coach luxa has the guts to bench Perez's cash machine

    anyhoo... awful match
     
  20. fullgore

    fullgore New Member

    Oct 23, 2004
    Canada
    Is it okay to laugh at this?
     
  21. galactico(12)

    galactico(12) New Member

    Sep 14, 2005
    you can laugh at wotever you want buddy. Personally, i prefer to laugh at the way RM were outplayed by Getafe. :cool:

    Whats so funny about 'headering' anyways? Maybe u prefer the word 'heading'? :D ... since these are actually only made-up words which are exclusively used in the footballing world, they can be used interchangeably.
     
  22. Madridi

    Madridi Member

    Sep 15, 2005
    The 971
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Ok at first I would have agreed with this and I still dont think Luxe would ever bench him, BUT I dont see why becks should be benched... He has been playing great this year and played good today.
     
  23. robinho1979

    robinho1979 New Member

    Jul 5, 2005
    london,england
    real madrid is just playing damn awful!!!no cohesion,creativity or teamwork...what makes it worse is that have a huge amount of talent that can play beautiful football...i dont know if it is just one person to blame as in luxa,perez...i think as a whole they are just not working together...they need to hire some type of motivator..cause right now there minds are not in check..zidane shows some nice touches but is only playing maybe 60%, robinho i have no clue with..everytime he touches the ball he loses possesion...why cany he play like all those games i watched him play like with santos...he is only playing at 20%, baptista hmmm he is tricky...i just think he is just playing out of position and real madrid and getting what he is worth!tonites game was the most boring and uninspiring game i have seen real madrid play...very sad to watch the most valuable and exspensive team in the world play!!!
     
  24. Beckham7

    Beckham7 Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    Northern, California
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are you serious?? He makes long passing Cause he has an accurate foot. And destroying the National team because of it??You should watch some England games before you make comments like that next time.
     
  25. GRBomber

    GRBomber Member

    Sep 12, 2005
    Brasília - Brazil
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil

    He has an accurate foot, but do you think Ronaldo is good at air game? Robinho?
    Maybe Raul?

    I really don't follow much of England, that's why I did not manifest my opinion. I just said that I read that frequently.

    Beckham would still try the same balls even if he had two midgets playing as strikers.

    Today, RM managed to steal a ball and someone passed it to Beck.
    He looked to Ronaldo and he was 30 meters offside.
    Beckham kicked towards Ronaldo anyway...
     

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