What proven facts are we getting from MadridForever? It is clear that Lucho has been correcting RM fans about the Messi situation which from reading your posts are simply ignorant of. May be he should come on our boards and let us see how proven his facts are. Messi is already making these nuts sweat as if he is an established world acclaimed star. I wonder what will happen when he plays over the weekend. Can`t wait.
What RM (and Alaves and Deportivo) are annoyed about is the preferential treatment that Barca is getting in this issue. As a Madrid fan, I am not sweating over Messi any more than over Dinho or Eto'o. In fact, I'd rather he played, because sinking an 18 year old AM into a game of that caliber is not the brightest of ideas - witness Iniesta's game last year. I'm 99.9% sure that Rijkaard, being as he is a smart coach, would not start Messi anyway. If he did, he'd get "intimidated" by Garcia, Salgado and RC in the first minute of play and discreetly disappear for the rest of the game. I've seen enough derbis to know this. Even Ronaldo, in his first RM-FCB game (and remember the season he was having for you guys) was completely absent. I can say the same of a young Reina (that game cost him his starting spot, and look where he is now), young Xavi... If you want to think that the world is afraid of Messi and thus can't let him play, suit yourself, but that is lowering the level of the discussion several notches. The problem with people protesting his lineup is that they think that it is unfair - what difference to Depor's or Alaves's season does it make that Messi plays 12 games instead of Giuly - NONE. And I might remind you, RM has NOT protested Messi's lineup. As far as Madrid is concerned, he is good to go. Why then do you say that he is making us sweat? If your answer is going to be that you see Madrid behind a conspiracy of Depor, Alaves and the LFP to prevent Messi from playing the derby, look at your words after you type them and realize how stupid they look.
You are really, really blind aren't you. I can't believe I actually agree with Nicephoras on something....and about the weekend, well, call me crazy but I thought you are coming to play to Spain, to Madrid (let's start talking Estatut here and treating you like an "invited" team into our country's league), and in the Bernabeu Stadium, which is no easy feat. "Can't wait" for what, exactly? baby tears and mucus? . Barca's entire roster I am sure that as the moment nears "can't wait" until its over to head back home in one piece, hoping to have some little nationalistic pride still left in their directors which is really what's moving in the sidelines alongside this game.
This is awfully convienient timing, isnt it? It may be Alaves and Depor on the complaint but Im sure the white plague has a hand in this somewhere...
Simple why would RM come in this late to protest Messi`s eligibility. I knew all the politics behind Messi`s situation and i knew that RM were silent but would come in when the time comes. I mean why is it that it`s only a few teams protesting over this issue. There is a lot of unknown in the Messi situation but deep inside RM don`t like the youngster to play not only this weekend but other matches. There is nothing you are reminding me in this case, i already know what is happening so keep that to your self. Like i said Messi will play and this is all what matters. By Messi making you sweat doesn`t mean that it is for the match in question. No, it is just a concern he is causing. Either way get back to me after the weekend and.....
You are begining to sound like Nicephoras himself, ignorance. Well yeah at least you agree with sime because you should go and review what he was discussing and the response he got. My response was directed to this trash "Lucho (he doesn't even know what a Paella is for what I've seen in another post, not kidding) is actually quoting MadridForever giving him an educational lesson on what the real issue is, not the other way around. Read it again, or go find it in its proper context at the RM forum. MadridForever is the one giving all of you the proven facts, facts which most of you don't have very clear for what I've seen said around this parts lately. Just to think that this dude can even think about having a minimal discussion with MadridForever gives me the chills, chiquitin." Does this have any sensible meaning if you go and look at what Lucho was saying, nothing. You simply wanted to challenge Lucho because like i said there are no proven facts in what MadridForever was saying. I hate wasting my time responding but what to do. Here you go again. "Barca's entire roster I am sure that as the moment nears "can't wait" until its over to head back home in one piece, hoping to have some little nationalistic pride still left in their directors which is really what's moving in the sidelines alongside this game." Crazy? may be, lack of understanding of what is being discussed? surely yes. By me saying i can`t wait for this match is just like any one anticipating this clash. I have confidence in my team so does any one who supports whatever. Are we well prepared? yes. Are we ready? yes. Ooops are we coming to tour or to compete? This i will leave it to your mind. So have you seen any one on this board challenging Ronaldo because he predicted a 2-0 win for RM? or how many times did he do the same last season. Simple this is how confident and well prepared he feel he and his team are. No one is challenging this, just like i don`t think any fool should challenge me for feeling confident that we are wining come the end of the 90 minutes play. No need to respond to the rest, it is simply a hopeless waste of my time and energy.
I dont know what a Paella is for.........odd. Maybe unlike the people where you are from (Newark, NJ most likely) I eat mine with seafood and meat..is that a stretch And since you are so bright and on top of my issues...read back in the RM forum....MadridForever and I have been going at this issue for a week or so...the only thing i havent done is show the article where I read the information supporting my point. The problem is I read it in a Spanish publication and dont remember which one because it was well after he had been reinstated. But it was a long explanation of the situation and gave detail about Barca's ace in the hole about the situation.
If RM wanted to stop Messi from playing this weekend they should've acted weeks ago, because it has been known all along that the FEF is NOT meeting this week. If RM really wanted to stop Messi from playing at all, they would build their own case themselves. What you fail to see is that Madrid has NEVER made a single statement about Messi's eligibility or challenged it in any way. Those are FACTS. Your arguments are that 'deep down inside RM' someone is rocking the cradle. If you find ONE single fact to support that, you'll convince me. Otherwise, it's what sane people call delusional paranoia.
Tomorrow night we will ride back to Barcelona with a white and purple flag tattered and dirty...stained with the spoils of our vicotry party...the steets of madrid will flood with the tears of the unbelievers....for they have yet to come to realize that......... THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE---------------and the one is BARCA Blau-grana al vent un crit valent tenim un nom el sap tothom Barca , Barca, Barca ! may the game be clean and entertaining, no injuries just beautiful football
Does any one know the situation with Maxi Lopez? He's from Argentina so wouldn't that make him a non-EU player as well? I know a team is only allowed to have 3, but as some one mentioned earlier Barca already has Ronaldinho, Eto'o and Marquez, so wouldn't that make Maxi the 4th?
You know what, let me not take this further and turn this into a RM against Messi playing. Like i said and i`m saying it the last time so hopefully you will pick up thios time. What matters is for Messi to play and there is alot which is still unclear and probably will remain unknown as regards Messi`s case. RM deep inside know how they feel about the situation just like other clubs who are waiting to protest later on. We know what went wrong in Messi`s situation but that is past and we keep moving forward. All Barca fans want is for the prodigy to play in the league which will also enhance his chances for the Argentine national team. So who ever protests i don`t really care now for as long as i see him playing, that is all what matters.
I feel the same way and hopefully we can leave the capital in triumph. The only sure thing to happen is physical play which comes from competitiveness. Hopefully there won`t be bad injuries in this one.
Oh I agree that the kid is blameless and I really hate to see talent wasted. All I'm saying is that if you think that the cause of this problem is how RM and other clubs feel "deep inside" (conspiracy theory?), and that they don't want the kid to play because he is just too good then you are deluding yourself. Barcelona is not the victim here. See, I would "pick up" your arguments much better if you actually said something other than "it is unclear" and "deep inside". In other words, I'd like to see some facts to support this theory of yours that people don't want Messi to play.
Who F U C K I N G cares about Messi? We have lots of players equally as good. Barca doesn't need messi right now and if anyone think this little player will save us from a defeat then what's the ********ing use of even trying?
Any African citizen needs 10 years of continuous residence (and tax-paying) - I know we have historical reasons to give Latin Americans preferential treatment, but this is ridiculous.
http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=328061&CPID=23&clid=&lid=10&title=Messi+row+continues Messi row continues The lawyer at the centre of the Lionel Messi case has been accused of being used by Real Madrid president Florentino Perez to stir up problems for Barcelona by the Catalan media. Javier Tebas, who represents Alaves, has been the most vociferous in calling for the Argentinian starlet to be stopped from playing and registers an official request that each game he plays in be annulled. The sports editor of El Periodico newspaper, Emilio Perez de Rosas, has alleged that the war being waged against Messi is being orchestrated by more powerful people and said that Madrid's president has a hand in the problems. Despite failing to have Barcelona's victories against Osasuna, Malaga and Getafe overturned, Tebas has continued his campaign against Messi and has demanded that the Blaugrana's 3-0 win in the Bernabeu be overturned. The Catalan media have said that Tebas, who is the vice president of the Spanish Football League (LFP), could be under the influence of Real Madrid, as Florentino Perez is also the president of the LFP. Messi's season has been blighted by proceedings that have stated he should not be allowed to play for Barcelona because he was registered as a player after the August 31 summer transfer deadline. Barca have succeeded in fending off the cases brought against their player as he was considered to be assimilated player at the start of the season and was then given a Spanish passport on September 26, meaning that he would not occupy one of the squad's three non-EU places, that are already taken by Rafael Marquez, Samuel Eto'o and Ronaldinho. The Catalan club have also demanded that Tebas be forced to resign from his post as vice-president of the LFP. "We now consider that his role as a member of the organisation and his job as the lawyer for Alaves are incompatible in the Messi case," a Barca statement read. After failing to win support to have Messi prevented from playing until at least January, when the winter transfer window opens, at the LFP or the Spanish Football Federation (RFEF), Tebas hopes to have the case presented to Spain's highest sporting body, the Superior Council for Sport (CSD) in early December. The LFP asked the RFEF to annul Messi's playing licence last week as they placed the request on their website, as Alaves, who have been joined by Deportivo La Coruna in making written complaints, believe that the granting of the player's licence after the official registration period had ended was unfair.
Thanks for bringing up this pal, i knew all along some thing was fishy and now we are starting to get at least some bits of information. The truth will come out in the end. I knew Real Madrid had a hand in all this but we will see how this ends. "We now consider that his role as a member of the organisation and his job as the lawyer for Alaves are incompatible in the Messi case," I like this, the fact that he is Lawyer for Alaves and at the same time the vice president of the LPF doesn`t sound right to many Barca fans. Now Perez`s name is being mentioned. Damn these los comedicos, we knew all along they were sweating over the kid. A shame really because i doubt preventing the prodigy from playing will make them any better.