Wake Forest vs Virginia [R]

Discussion in 'College & Amateur Soccer' started by BMincali, Nov 4, 2005.

  1. BMincali

    BMincali New Member

    Oct 27, 2004
    Bay Area
    Anyone care to discuss this game? It will be on TV, in front of a packed stadium at "The Spry"! Wake already has trouble scoring goals and now Mark Ellington is out for the game after suffering a mild stroke. I will predict a 2-1 W for Wake but a tie seems likely as well. Any thoughts...
     
  2. s0ccerguy

    s0ccerguy Member

    Mar 25, 2004
  3. fermi

    fermi New Member

    Oct 17, 2004
    ct
    does anyone know if patrick phelan will be starting this game?? he is from my hometown and played at my highschool i would like to see him play.
     
  4. gsterp

    gsterp Member+

    Jul 16, 2003
    College Park
    Unless there's some injury I'm unaware of he should be starting. He's played from pretty much day 1 down there.
     
  5. congo2

    congo2 New Member

    Jan 31, 2005
    Pat is starting, Curfman is hurt & right now is a gametime decision. Looks like WF will be going with up to 4 freshman starting -Cronin, Adams, Franks & Lahood. Having Mark done for the season hurts bigtime.

    UVA came in last night, trained this morning and talking with an assistant, seem pretty prepared & pumped for the game.

    I am leaving in a few minutes for it!
     
  6. jmsdoc

    jmsdoc Member

    Jun 25, 2000
    The Valley
    I'm predicting a 3-0 Deacon win...we'll see how that works! :rolleyes:
     
  7. rollinsfc

    rollinsfc New Member

    Aug 25, 2005
    Winter Park, Florida
    will this college game be on the internet......for those of us without FSC
     
  8. FAN0011

    FAN0011 New Member

    Jan 9, 2003
    Region1
    Halftime score 0-0. I must have been out to lunch this week. I didn't realize that Virginia had dropped to #20 following the VT loss until I heard it mentioned on the telly.
     
  9. voyager

    voyager Member

    Jun 10, 2004
    Frederick, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    2-1 UVA in OT. Wake dominated from what I saw, and had some great shots on goal but couldn't put it away. The goal looked to be totally against the run of play.
     
  10. ugaaccountant

    ugaaccountant New Member

    Oct 26, 2003
    Justin Moose looked the best tonight imo, anyone else?
     
  11. BMincali

    BMincali New Member

    Oct 27, 2004
    Bay Area
    That loss hurts. Sad to see some former teammates go down like that, but such has been the story against UVA over the last 6 years or so. I had not seen Wake play live until tonight and they are a hell of a lot better than I thought they were. They created a ton of chances and had two lapses on the defensive end, on the first goal Valentin runs by the UVA player when he should have held his ground and tried to dispose Coaluca and then on the second goal Adams, the freshmen, goes for the fake, gets out of position and leaves a hole in the middle of the field for Joe Vide to push into and finish for a nice goal off a feed from Christman. Overall a good game but an unfair result. Such is the game of soccer.....
     
  12. gsterp

    gsterp Member+

    Jul 16, 2003
    College Park
    So the typical UVA/Wake game then? There's no such thing as a sure thing in soccer, but lately this matchup has been as close as there is. At least for Wake it wasn't an own goal again. They might be meeting again in the ACC quarterfinals depending on the Duke/Clemson result tomorrow too. Of course, if Clemson gets a result then Wake is in the play-in game.
     
  13. BMincali

    BMincali New Member

    Oct 27, 2004
    Bay Area
    Curfman the left back and Lahoud the freshmen F/M looked good. Wells Thompson also played a nice game, although he went for goal at one point in the game (to Burke's near post) when he should have crossed the ball into the middle.
     
  14. BMincali

    BMincali New Member

    Oct 27, 2004
    Bay Area
    You are going to give me nightmares bringing up those damn own goals. If wake finishes in 8th place that would be a tragedy, IMO.
     
  15. vilafria

    vilafria Member+

    Jun 2, 2005
    I second that. One more assist for him. An inteligent player, a real #10.
    For UVA , the counterattack mode was just superb.
    Colaluca's goal was a masterpiece.
    I agree , tough loss for the home team.
     
  16. voyager

    voyager Member

    Jun 10, 2004
    Frederick, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    I was impressed with Curfman also. Very composed on D and didn't look afraid to push forward, either.

    I was about ready to yell at Wells Thompson when he went for goal in that situation but then I remember that he probably wouldn't hear me. Made the wrong choice there. Other than that he played pretty well.
     
  17. Sammys

    Sammys New Member

    Mar 5, 2002
    Virginia
    Another Cavs win over Wake. Wake scored first off a give away in the midfield by Murphy that lead to two quick passes by Wake and the goal by Lahoud. Virginia didnt get rattled and Colaluca scored a brilliant goal off some nice individual work to tie it up. Wake had the better of the play at the end of the first half but was unable to finish. Nice work by Cristman to create the chance on the game winner by Vide. Good to see Mark Ellington at the game. ACCs should be a battle.
     
  18. s0ccerguy

    s0ccerguy Member

    Mar 25, 2004
    Wow Wake totally got robbed. Saw the game on television. Any Wake fan must be so disappointed. From what I hear that type of game has been the story for wake against uva for the last couple years, and has also been the case in the majority of their losses this year. They were a much better team, that goal in OT (a miss hit) definitely took the life out of them but if Duke beats clemson tomorrow then wake will play uva again on wednesday and i think they'll like they're chances. What's with all this talk about Cristman and Reyerend up top being the best forward combination in the country. They were both highly average in my book, neither one with decent foot skills, only height. The Wake defense did an excellent job with them, and the uva attack in general. Virginia had a good free kick opportunity in the first half with the header going just wide but other than that chance and their two goals they weren't dangerous at all. Colaluca did make a nice play on his goal but I swear that kid must be an acting major. He's received 3 cards this year for diving and could've gotten his 4th tonight if the referee didn't have his head up his @$$. Nevertheless uva pulled out a win which is a good quality to have going into tournament time. Unless wake does something special in the acc tournament they will face a good team first round of the ncaa's. I wouldn't want to be the team that has to play them first round though. Although not an exceptionally tall team nobody is going to win a headball over they're backs, and moose can skin an defender in the country everytime. Great potential, just need to put the pieces together. Frustrating loss nonetheless
     
  19. congo2

    congo2 New Member

    Jan 31, 2005
    Once again the lack of finishing hurts Wake. They are able to get dangerous opportunities but can't find the back of the net.

    I pity the team the team that they go against when they are able to finish better. A huge if though.
     
  20. Dr Jay

    Dr Jay BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 7, 1999
    Newton, MA USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Certainly rare for a young person, but the athletics part really would have no bearing.

    About 1/3 of strokes in the young are drug-related. I am sure this can be ruled out in this kid.

    Most likely he has the same thing Teddy Brushci did - a congenital hole in the heart as a cause. If so, this is easily repaired and the kid will be back next season. This would probably be the best diagnosis.

    If it is a blood clotting problem like anti-phospholipid antibodies than he will have to go on anticoagulants like coumadin which would preclude him from playing soccer.

    Other congenital anomalies of blood vessels or the brain might be at fault. Even more unusual would be migraine related stroke.
     
  21. thisisstupid

    thisisstupid Member

    Oct 31, 2003
    Isn't that the point....When they are able to finish better???
    That has been Wake's story for a long time. Score lots of goals and beat some teams, but come NCAA time or pressure game time, they fold and can't get it done. There comes a point in time that you have to stop making excuses like, they got robbed, or they were the better team. We have all been saying that about Wake forever.

    Truth of the matter is that they don't win the BIG game. Credit Virginia. On the road, against the run of play.....CONGRATS. But that is called getting points. UVA had to figure they were going to be playing against the run of play. Night game, in Winston-Salem, big crowd....that was always going to be a given.

    You may not think so but Gelnovatch had his players play a great game and get the result.
     
  22. utah444

    utah444 New Member

    Feb 24, 2005
    I saw the game, and I'm not sure Wake had the better of the play. If they did, if was by a very slight margin, and not necessarily the better good chances. Very fun second half and overtime. First half wasn't pretty - as a friend of mine said, "is this college soccer? big kicks and headballs?"

    3 great goals. Be interesting if they play again on Wednesday.
     
  23. BMincali

    BMincali New Member

    Oct 27, 2004
    Bay Area
    No one is making excuses brother. To say that Wake's teams, past and present, fold is wrong. Perhaps you used the wrong word but fold to me means the team gave up and that has NEVER BEEN THE CASE.
     
  24. BMincali

    BMincali New Member

    Oct 27, 2004
    Bay Area
    Were we watching the same game? I did not see the first 30 minutes of the first half so perhaps UVA dominated those first 30 minutes, but the last 15 minutes of the first half were even. In the second half almost all the chances belong to Wake. IMO, the second half was a pretty impressive display of soccer, especially for two college teams.
     
  25. vilafria

    vilafria Member+

    Jun 2, 2005
    I don't agree w/ you because, even though Wake had more control of the ball and several goal chances, UVA had killer counter-attacks and very good scoring chances. The "value " factor was ,perhaps, a balance of scoring opportunities. In the end, I have to say Wake were their own worst adversaries by failing to capitalize in key moments and put the game away.
     

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