Scotland vs. USA (Nov 12)

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  1. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    This is going to be really interesting.

    1) Trivia question: How many matches has Bruce Arena won against a European team on European soil after he took over following the debacle of WC98?

    One, Poland. No shrinking violet, but not Italy either. Of course we beat Portugal in 02, but that doesn't count.

    Clearly these matches at Scotland and Norway are meant to provide confidence playing in front of a passionate European crowd.

    2) I think both sets of fans actually underestimate the strength of the opposition. How many SPL matches does the average American watch? And how many of those are Old Firm games? I used to watch Rangers when Reyna was there, but that's about it. Your average fan has no clue who the Hibs players are, and if they do it's because of Championship Manager.

    3) A lot will depend on who Arena brings. If it's the USA "A" team it's going to be a game that's too close to call. I give the edge to Scotland due to point 1 above. If Arena decides he wants to try out some new faces, forget about it. 3-1 Scotland.
     
  2. Teso Dos Bichos

    Teso Dos Bichos Red Card

    Sep 2, 2004
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    Take you WR smack talk elsewhere. :rolleyes:
     
  3. BlackComyn

    BlackComyn New Member

    Nov 1, 2005
    With the squad announced for this game here is a possible team.

    Gordon in goal obviously.

    Three centre backs, Anderson, Gary Caldwell and Webster.

    I think it being a friendly Weir and Pressley shouldn't play for age/shitiness reasons. So thoughts of the future here.

    Murray and Alexander as full backs giving width in midfield.

    Fletcher, Quashie and Hartley in the heart of midfield, pushing forward. Let the defenders defend.

    Mcfadden and O'Connor up front.

    So 3-5-2 if you like.

    I'm giving barry ferguson a rest for this one only.
     
  4. markdickson

    markdickson New Member

    May 7, 2001
    Dumfries, Scotland
    ----------------------Gordon----------------------


    --Alexander----Webster-----Pressley----Murray---


    ---Fletcher----------Quashie-----------Hartley---


    ---Maloney----------O'Connor----------McFadden--


    Paul Hartley's got a hamstring injury so Ferguson might play afterall. If not that would be my team.
     
  5. celtic76

    celtic76 Member

    Aug 30, 2001
    WI USA
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Since Hartley might not make it why not give Pearson a shot? He has the speed to get up and down the pitch. Just a thought.
     
  6. YankHibee

    YankHibee Member+

    Mar 28, 2005
    indianapolis
    Formations that include all three of Caldwell, Riordan, and O'Connor really are the best.;)
     
  7. BlackComyn

    BlackComyn New Member

    Nov 1, 2005
    That's a shame that Hartley is injured.

    Don't think Pearson is in the squad.

    But ferguson to play is fine by me. Cannot believe that people having been slagging him off !

    Would like to see a few of these youngsters people say are good coming on as sub. Have never seen scott brown, for instance, play. Is he good and what is his best position ?
     
  8. ossieend

    ossieend New Member

    Apr 3, 2005
    derby u.k.
    The U.S. are a very good team, their only problem is strength in depth at international level or rather the majority of U.S. player's lack of experience at international level. Not enough of their 'club' sides get to play in the American continental equivilent of European competitions.
    The other thing is the MLS play-offs are reaching a climax at the moment so players from NE Revolution or Chicago Fire and Colorado Rapids or LA Galaxy won't be available, the likes of Twellman, Noonan, Dempsey, Donovan etc. these blokes can play. However, European based players O'Brien 'is he fit', Reyna, Beasley, Keller should all be playing.
    As a Limey who watches a lot of MLS I say the Scots could be in for a very tough time if anything like a U.S. first team squad turns up.
     
  9. justboy

    justboy Member

    Jun 21, 2005
    Portland, OR
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    I doubt that Ferguson will start the game....not with 2 Old Firm game's coming up and also the Champs League. It is too much to risk....
     
  10. Teso Dos Bichos

    Teso Dos Bichos Red Card

    Sep 2, 2004
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    That was in reference to a deleted post and not the one by Clint Eastwood.
     
  11. Firedog

    Firedog New Member

    Oct 30, 2005
    Glasgow
    Old Etonians, don't you just love them?
     
  12. Teso Dos Bichos

    Teso Dos Bichos Red Card

    Sep 2, 2004
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    Bruce Arena is bricking it and has delayed his 'roster' announcement until tomorrow. Just shows what a complete bunch of amateurs they are, if the MLS Cup and a few injuries is causing so much chaos. Surely he should have prepared for all of these eventualities? Looks like he will need to cobble a random central midfield within the next 24 hours. Anyone want to take bets on whether Team USA will even bother to show up at Hampden? :rolleyes:
     
  13. MeridianFC

    MeridianFC Member

    Jul 26, 1999
    Washington, DC USA
    £1 says 0:0 emulating the amighty thrill fest that was the last encounter (1998 RFK).
     
  14. dmike

    dmike Member

    Jul 7, 2004
    SoCal
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    someone is really anxious for this friendly
     
  15. DCFAN96

    DCFAN96 Member

    Apr 24, 2004
    Your right about the central mid part, there is no one available (due to playoffs/final) or healthy (Reyna, JOB both injured). The defense should be ok and will provide a good test for your offense, but like you mentioned our attack won't be up to par and will likely not cause too much trouble. I doubt the match will be terribly exciting.
     
  16. Teso Dos Bichos

    Teso Dos Bichos Red Card

    Sep 2, 2004
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    Not at all, since it doesn't do anything for us. We don't need to play you and I would have much rather played another European side in preparation for the Euro 2008 qualifying campaign. What I don't like is being completely messed around in regard to your potential sham of a side. All it does is cheat the fans and particularly your fans making the trip. It's a complete waste and will just be a farce of a match.
     
  17. Teso Dos Bichos

    Teso Dos Bichos Red Card

    Sep 2, 2004
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    £1 says I'll be giving my ticket for this farce to someone else.
     
  18. YankHibee

    YankHibee Member+

    Mar 28, 2005
    indianapolis

    You aren't still ornery from the weekend are you? That must have been hard after being a goal up and everything :cool:
     
  19. scarshins

    scarshins Member

    Jun 13, 2000
    fcva
    Yeah what amateurs.

    Amateurs 3, Scotland 1.
     
  20. Frat Alien

    Frat Alien New Member

    Mar 9, 2005
    Space
    You do know that just because he hasn't announced it doesn't mean they haven't already been called over, right? I mean Chris Rolfe is already on his way, from some reports, so the boys know and are getting right now to take on the Scots. What's the problem?
     
  21. Scottish_Morton

    Jul 7, 2003
    Irvine, Scotland
    The USA squad will probably be just as prepared as us, albeit with them missing a few players for various reasons.

    Caldwell, O'Conner, Riordan, Brown, Smith, Anderson, Esson, Ferguson, Murray and Maloney all have midweek cup games. So presummably the squad wont meet till thursday and might not get to train fully until friday.

    I also expect guys like Fletch, Ferguson, Maloney etc wont be playing the full 90 minutes. So it will be quite experimental for both sides.
     
  22. Gordon EF

    Gordon EF Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 15, 2004
    Edinburgh
    He's been out for too long. He's one of a number of good young players who I hope progress to that level but he hasn't shown enough yet. There are a few young players who play in similar positions who deserve a go ahead of Pearson, Scott Brown and Kevin Thomson spring to mind.
     
  23. Gordon EF

    Gordon EF Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 15, 2004
    Edinburgh
    Pish!
     
  24. Shaydee

    Shaydee Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    New Jersey
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    well...um...our defense should be alright
     

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