7/16 Gold Cup USA vs Jamaica Pre Game and PBP Thread [R]

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Wile Coyote, Jul 16, 2005.

  1. Wile Coyote

    Wile Coyote Red Card

    Sep 21, 2000
    Punta del Este, Uru.
    Club:
    Club Nacional de Football
    I can not get excited about this game personaly...and sadly I have not been excited about the Gold Cup at all I have only watched the costa rica game and the cuba game... This cup is a freindly cup at best Concacrap is a joke...
    I will begin to bother with this as soon as the nats make the semi finals...

    With that in mind Jamaica should be a walk in the park USA is 5 times superior than jamaica I see no reason why the US team cant put 4 to 5 goals away...

    I know its hard for the nats to pump themselfs up for jamaica but the boys should trash jamaica early on and cruse the rest of the way......
     
  2. Davids26

    Davids26 Member

    May 31, 2000
    Re: USA vs Jamaica Pre Game comments

    I think this match against Jamaica will be tough. If we have our full complement of players, no doubt I think we win this tournament easily. Attacking wise we haven't looked too spectacular except for about a 3 minute span at the end of the Cuba match...

    Luckily the experimentation is over and I expect a 2-0 win today.
     
  3. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    Re: USA vs Jamaica Pre Game comments

    It's not CONCACAF's fault that they have a bunch of islands and small countries. This has actually been a pretty exciting tournament as a whole, the USA games have been some of the least exciting.
     
  4. Jabinho

    Jabinho New Member

    May 29, 2004
    Re: USA vs Jamaica Pre Game comments

    If we got a big boat with a very heavy chain and hauled all the islands to one..
    Nevermind..
    Galaxy/USA fans can't lose today.. If the USA wins .. great.. If we lose .. well we get Donovan back for Real Madrid.. ;)
    I expect an exciting match today (USA is due for something that keeps us awake) and hopefully some better finishing from the USA.
    If it goes to PKs Keller will be the difference and make up for a couple of USA misses.. ;)
     
  5. reddog694

    reddog694 Member

    Jun 1, 2004
    NYC
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. kennytt

    kennytt Member+

    LA teams
    United States
    May 26, 2001
    Westminster, OC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: US vs Jamaica Starting Lineup

    No Dempsey??? Too inexperienced?
     
  7. Ronaldo's Idol

    Jun 13, 2004
    Re: US vs Jamaica Starting Lineup

    I like everything about this lineup but the defense. Pulling Cherundolo up to midfield I think is a great idea, but our back 3 are exposed and basically all of them are relatively slow (not sure about Gooch, but he's in the middle so speed isn't as much of an issue for him).

    Perhaps this might work better with Gibbs and Bocanegra available, defensively. Or even Spector. But Vanney and Conrad? I just hope our offense dominates because we will be very very vulnerable to counter attacks up the wings.
     
  8. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    Re: US vs Jamaica Starting Lineup

    I don't really trust the diagram.

    With Pope hurt, Conrad is really getting a nice run with the team.
     
  9. Lord15

    Lord15 New Member

    Jun 20, 2001
    Southeast
    Re: US vs Jamaica Starting Lineup

    The Jamaican defense is cheese. We're gonna go after them, but worst case senario we've got 6 guys that are good defensively out there.

    Conrad-Gooch-Vanney
    Cher-Mastro-Obrien

    I think this is really a 3-3-1-3
     
  10. reddog694

    reddog694 Member

    Jun 1, 2004
    NYC
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: US vs Jamaica Starting Lineup

    I don't trust the diagram either really. It reminds me of the '3-4-3' in the qualifier where Convey was a "left wing" and Beasley a "forward". Didn't really turn out that way all the time.

    But I think it's interesting nonetheless that either Bruce or US Soccer purposely decided to display it that way.
     
  11. Nelziq

    Nelziq New Member

    Jan 22, 2004
    Bay Area, CA
    Re: US vs Jamaica Starting Lineup

    I think the more lilkely explanation is that the formation is just wrong. What happens is that coachs release the starting 11 and analysts sort of guess what the strategy is going to be. In this case, the lineup is a bit different than usual so it could be working in a couple different ways. I think for sure in a knock out round game that Bruce wont be playing with 3 in the back. This means one of two options are likely.

    1) 4-4-2 with Beasely as striker
    This formation has only one person out of their natural position and plays to BA's established system.

    Cherundolo-Conrad-Gooch-Vanney
    ------------Pablo---------------
    Ralston----------------JOB------
    ----------Donovan--------------
    ----Wolff------------Beasley-----

    2) 4-5-1
    In this formation O'brien's creativity is taken advantage of in the middle of the park. A bit more conservative but plays everyone in their best positions. Make lack finishing with only Wolff up top, but if Donovan, Beasley and Ralston can get forward that shouldnt be a problem.

    --Cherundolo-Conrad-Gooch-Vanney-
    -----------Pablo-----JOB------------
    --Ralston----------------Beasley-----
    --------------Donovan---------------
    --------------Wolff------------------
     
  12. kbsj

    kbsj New Member

    Jun 12, 2001
    San Jose
    Re: USA vs Jamaica Pre Game comments

    Jamaica has a vastly improved team, expecting this to go to PK's.
     
  13. Nittany Meteo

    Nittany Meteo Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Burlington, NJ
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: USA vs Jamaica Pre Game comments

    Any IM PBP in the works? Thanks in advance.
     
  14. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: US vs Jamaica Starting Lineup

    I thought 4-5-1 when I first saw this lineup...
     
  15. Dixie

    Dixie New Member

    Jul 25, 2002
    Tallahassee, Florida
    Re: USA vs Jamaica Pre Game comments

    I'd appreciate pbp as well
     
  16. Supermanram

    Supermanram New Member

    Mar 31, 2005
    Riverside, Ca
    Re: USA vs Jamaica Pre Game comments

    Honestly this cup has been really exciting for me. My friends are really into it as well. I guess its the kind of tournament that some will love it and some will hate it. Honduras vs Costa Rica was a fantastic game. GO USA!!
     
  17. willykirk

    willykirk Member

    Jan 6, 2004
    San Jose, Ca
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 7/14 Gold Cup USA vs Jamaica Pre Game and PBP Thread [R]

    well I'm watching, so i'll fill in best I can...

    wile coyote, glad to see you care enough to start a thread.
     
  18. XaviusX

    XaviusX Member

    Mar 21, 2001
    Tampa, Florida
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 7/14 Gold Cup USA vs Jamaica Pre Game and PBP Thread [R]

    I created an AIM CHATROOM for this match: 'BIGSOCCERUSAvsJamaica'
     
  19. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Re: 7/14 Gold Cup USA vs Jamaica Pre Game and PBP Thread [R]

    Kick off.
     
  20. willykirk

    willykirk Member

    Jan 6, 2004
    San Jose, Ca
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 7/14 Gold Cup USA vs Jamaica Pre Game and PBP Thread [R]

    and we're away... reggae boyz kick off. man its good to see JOB on the field.
     
  21. Nittany Meteo

    Nittany Meteo Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Burlington, NJ
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 7/14 Gold Cup USA vs Jamaica Pre Game and PBP Thread [R]

    much appreciated
     
  22. flowergirl

    flowergirl Member+

    Aug 11, 2004
    panama city, FL
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 7/14 Gold Cup USA vs Jamaica Pre Game and PBP Thread [R]

    kudos in advance for any pbp. :)
     
  23. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 7/14 Gold Cup USA vs Jamaica Pre Game and PBP Thread [R]

    Jamaica Lineup:

    Ricketts
    Stewart-Marshall-Taylor
    Sawyers-Scarlett-Williams-Hue-Stephenson
    Shelton-Fuller
     
  24. throwin64

    throwin64 New Member

    Feb 7, 2004
    Ocean City, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 7/14 Gold Cup USA vs Jamaica Pre Game and PBP Thread [R]


    Pardon the inexperienced, but how does one access this chatroom?
     
  25. willykirk

    willykirk Member

    Jan 6, 2004
    San Jose, Ca
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 7/14 Gold Cup USA vs Jamaica Pre Game and PBP Thread [R]

    back and forth right now, everybody getting a touch.
     

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