Jose can you see? That you're not going back home?

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Coach_McGuirk, May 6, 2005.

  1. Coach_McGuirk

    Coach_McGuirk New Member

    Apr 30, 2002
    Between the Pipes
    (With apologies to Francis Scott Key)

    From today's Evening Standard via Arseblog:

    "I have said many times that I do not buy a player of his age to sell him one year later. If Real Madrid wanted to buy him, they could have bought him a year ago. They can forget it."

    You tell 'em, boss!!!

    First he says he's interested in Becks, now he tells Real where to stick it on Reyes. Methinks LeBoss is putting the mental screws to Real, especially since they will very well finish up the year with no silverware AGAIN and the King of the Idiots will have to deliver some players or the inmates might just boot him from the asylum. "You can stick your Galacticos up your arse!!!"

    Links:

    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/sport/football/articles/18420687?source=Evening Standard#
    http://www.arseblog.com/index.php
     
  2. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep. Wenger is either messing with them.....and/or saying that Reyes will be very very expensive if Madrid start up with their usual summer shenanigans.
     
  3. Cannon

    Cannon Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Sep 2, 2001
    Washington, DC metro
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm happy that its Wenger messing with R.Madrid instead of the other way around. However, if stuff like these comments mean were stuck with a misfiring JAR for another season than I think its Arsenal that is really losing out. I just don't see JAR turning this around and becoming a great member of the team anytime soon. I hope I'm wrong but do we really want to watch him getting in Henry's way, missing good scoring chances, making runs directly into a swarm of defenders and turning over the ball, and stories of his problems with the rest of the squad for another season?

    I say we bite the bullet on this one, admit that he wasn't a good buy (and certainly not at the price we paid), and ship him off in the summer. It would be nice if we didn't sell him to those arrogant R.Madrid bosses but there simply aren't a lot of teams around that will be able to pay us enough to recoup most of the funds we spent on JAR.
     
  4. mad theory

    mad theory New Member

    May 10, 2004
    London
    i admit i was one of jose's biggest critics but lately he's starting to win me over. he's been playing really well and he still has alot to prove and i'm confident he'll produce. lets not be so harsh, eh? remember henry, pires, bergkamp and edu were all pretty crap when we bought them, so lets give him another season afterall he's still a youngster.
     
  5. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree with MT. I do not want to give up on Reyes yet. He is very young and has tons of potential. I would, however, like to see him more on the wing than as a forward....mainly because I want to see RvP in the forward position. I think Reyes' pace, ability to beat people and willingness to track back make him a project not worth giving up on quite yet.
     
  6. The Potter

    The Potter Member+

    Aug 26, 2004
    England
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Reyes is class if you let him go your fools I'm telling you.
     
  7. Coach_McGuirk

    Coach_McGuirk New Member

    Apr 30, 2002
    Between the Pipes
    Bergkamp? Crap?? NEVER!!! ;)
     
  8. martymarts

    martymarts Member

    Mar 11, 2003
    NYC
    Does AW tell Real to push off re Paddy?
     
  9. Coach_McGuirk

    Coach_McGuirk New Member

    Apr 30, 2002
    Between the Pipes
    I think that's what he's setting them up for.

    And now he's saying there's a 20% chance we'll keep Edu, as he's still trying to convince him to stay. Maybe he had Henry and Paddy tell him how horrid Italy can be if everything doesn't go just right.
     
  10. surfcam

    surfcam Member

    Sep 8, 2004
    Corpus Christi, TX
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looks like Le Boss is performing the old Texas "Taking the Bull by the Horns" and settin thangs straight from the get-go!
     
  11. martymarts

    martymarts Member

    Mar 11, 2003
    NYC
    I hope we can keep Edu! The 2 times he's come on recently he's looked really composed and assured. I know that would leave us with a surfeit of choices in the middle, but, as a lefty he offers something different. Even more important if Paddy decides to move on this year?
     
  12. Grand_Rapids_Gunner

    Apr 26, 2005
    Grand Rapids, MI
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We might be messing with Real Madrid...or it could just be the truth. I don't think that Arsene is ready to let Reyes walk just yet. Maybe during training sessions he sees something that we don't see on the pitch just yet, but I'm sure "the boss" has his reasons for wanting to keep Reyes. However, it would be nice to get some payback for the Vieira incident of last summer...
     
  13. goonsquad

    goonsquad Member

    Apr 1, 2004
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't get me wrong, Italy has some amazing players and an extremely high quality league, but the question in my mind is: Do players have fun playing there? I mean since Directv picked up Goltv i've seen a lot of games, and they just don't seem to enjoy themselves like in England or even Spain. The games often seem very tense, the fans are mostly men, and the attitude at the games seems very different.

    BTW anyone see that Directv now offers Setanta sport (ch 615) for $12 a month? Will they show all of the PPV games on it you think? That would save me a lot on PPV. If so, I'll get it for next season.
     
  14. fermi

    fermi New Member

    Oct 17, 2004
    ct
    if your talking about EPL ppv games then i dont think so. but they say that that they show international matchs so you might be able to catch sum of the big national squads. from what ive seen so far on the channel they show the champions league games that espn doesnt show and eufa cup matches. as well as reruns of epl matchs. they also show championship matches from england.
     
  15. elknco1

    elknco1 Member

    Aug 20, 2004
  16. antifan

    antifan Member+

    Aug 14, 2004
    The Scottie
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wonder if the 20% chance that Edu will stay is the same 20% chance that Vieira will be sold.
     
  17. Rima067

    Rima067 New Member

    May 10, 2004

    Pires too?
     
  18. fox point fury

    May 19, 2001
    Providence
    Did Valencia move? :p





    Anyways, I agree 100% that it's great to see AW screwing with Real, and I'm not at all surprised that he hasn't given up on JAR (especially considering the 10m "bid").
     
  19. Catfish

    Catfish Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Go on Le Gaffer! Stick it to RMCF! Make 'em sweat and bleed them for everything.....lol.

    Sorry.
     
  20. Catfish

    Catfish Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Not only am I a Gooner, but also a fan of Edu.
    Keep the cheerful, Brasilian! Ya gotta love the guy.
     
  21. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unfortunately....I don't think the decision is Arsenal's at this point.
     
  22. Miles Brasher

    Miles Brasher Member

    Sep 6, 2004
    Coventry,England
    Reyes will stay, I've got a 10p bet with Phishy on that one.

    He will also be a top player. He's having a few problems off the field, (women as usual! :p ) but he will be a star for us. He's still v.young remember, so relax guys. Trust me, if he goes to RM, then in 2 years time, we'll all be going, "see, I told you we should have kept him"
     
  23. elknco1

    elknco1 Member

    Aug 20, 2004
    i assume so. wenger only called out bergkamp and edu.
     
  24. splara10

    splara10 New Member

    Aug 18, 2004
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I really hope Reyes stays on for at least another year.

    He seems to have found a better patch of form recently, and I think his confidence has grown as a result. One note: a "better" patch of form should not be misconstrued as anything more than that - he's been better, but not great. He's failed to convert numerous chances in recent games, and he still seems confused when it comes to the pass or shoot question (he seems to shoot when he should pass, pass when he should just go for it). On the balance, I'd rather see him shooting at this point - goals have given him confidence, and I think that will continue to aid his development in England.

    A few notes:

    1. He has come into form with the absence of Henry. I don't believe the rumors that they don't get along, but I do think Reyes and Henry clash as strikers - they both love cutting in from wide left, and they seem to get in one another's way. Playing Jose on the right doesn't feel like the answer - his right foot is just too weak at this point.

    2. It's funny - Reyes used to be overwhelmed physically by EPL defenders before he really got anything started; he'd get the ball, then go down. Sometimes he'd get the foul, but certainly that was the exception rather than the rule. He's looked better on this front, getting the ball and creating dangerous situations after riding out a bump or two, but he looks for the foul too often once in the box (look at the last few games, esp. against Spurs).

    Ultimately, I've come to see Reyes as a Pires-like figure, definitely someone coming in from the left wing to create/score goals. Problem is, I think he fancies himself as an out and out striker, but I don't think he and Henry work well together in that regard.
     

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