MLS Waiver Draft - Metros pass on all players

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  1. Gamblor

    Gamblor New Member

    May 17, 1999
  2. Speedball

    Speedball Member

    Feb 27, 1999
    Harrison Stadium
    The results of the 2002 Waiver Draft follow:

    1. D.C. United - pass
    2. MetroStars - pass
    3. Kansas City Wizards - pass
    4. Chicago Fire - pass
    5. Dallas Burn - pass
    6. San Jose Earthquakes - Craig Waibel
    7. Columbus Crew - Luchi Gonzalez
    8. Colorado Rapids - Billy Sleeth
    9. New England Revolution - pass
    10. Los Angeles Galaxy - pass
     
  3. Paul Nasta

    Paul Nasta Member

    Oct 16, 2001
    Long Island
    I think it says a lot that Bradley did not take his former player Billy Sleeth, especially since the Metros could use some depth in the back. Hopefully, it means that the Metros are committed to bringing in some higher profile defenders, but it may only mean that, having seen him up close, Bradley knows he's not worth the roster spot.
     
  4. cjschlos

    cjschlos Member

    Jan 21, 1999
    New York
    any idea why saavedra wasn' taken?
     
  5. Metrosuccess

    Metrosuccess Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What would we have to lose by taking a player??? Why not take a chance on Gonzalez or whomever???
     
  6. Bigfoot

    Bigfoot New Member

    Fire Bradley!!!

    I just wanted to go on record as being one of the first to post that.
     
  7. How could they have passed on Billy Walsh. Our season is doomed.
     
  8. Kingsman

    Kingsman New Member

    Oct 25, 2002
    Seattle
    I think if you take a player in the waiver draft, you use up one of your picks in the next "Superdraft". So you want to make sure anybody you take would be as good or better than who you could get with that draft pick.

    At least that's how it works in the NFL with their supplemental draft. Anybody know the exact deal with the MLS version?
     
  9. Bigfoot

    Bigfoot New Member

    I know that the boundary lines aren't part of the field of play in the NFL but they are in MLS.
     
  10. Haig

    Haig Member+

    May 14, 2000
    METROSTARS
    Club:
    --other--
    No, you just go to the end of the line for the next time a player is waived. And apparently, if a player picked up in the off-season waiver draft is himself waived before the start of the next season, the team incurs a small fine (assessed against the salary cap I assume).
     
  11. Sandy

    Sandy New Member

    Mar 31, 1999
    Suffern, NY
    Little brother probably warned big brother that the ESC would roast him if he ever took back Billy.
     
  12. vflkirwan

    vflkirwan Member

    Mar 28, 2000
    North Jersey
    Club:
    New Jersey
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2002 with out Walsh = No Playoffs.
     
  13. Sweeper

    Sweeper New Member

    Feb 11, 1999
    Nowak loved playing with Walsh, who had a great 2002 campaign. Billy recognized the idiocy of Nick and OZ long before any of us did, and he wanted out. Can we blame him for having the same emotions we now have, just a season sooner? Face it, you don't hate Billy, you hated his views which were ahead of his time, and you hate his brother, but he did nothing but produce for Metro all season long.
     
  14. Haig

    Haig Member+

    May 14, 2000
    METROSTARS
    Club:
    --other--
    Walsh had a great 2002? Chicago waived him. But you're right that he evidently realized what an idiot OZ was early on, and most of us took OZ's side.

    If Billy was clearly good enough to help the Metros, Bob Bradley would have picked him up off waivers. Evidently he's not good enough. Or do we get to hear about what an idiot Bob Bradley is now?
     
  15. eric d

    eric d Member

    Sep 9, 1998

    1999 With Club MVP Walsh= Worst Season Ever
     
  16. Sweeper

    Sweeper New Member

    Feb 11, 1999
    I for one wouldnt be suprised to see Walsh back on Metro in 2003. Bradley likes his type of player, and Walsh can cover either defense or offense. He's not a gamebreaker, but at the current status that MLS is it, there is room for a player like a Walsh on every teams starting eleven.

    I wouldnt worry too much that Chicago waived him. May have been more a salary issue for Walsh, who, living away from his Chatham home, conceivably is looking for a raise to afford a decent dig.

    Good to see you back on the boards Haig.
     
  17. Michael K.

    Michael K. Member

    Mar 3, 1999
    There or Thereabouts
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I pray, hope, and steadfastly believe that you are wrong - in that order.
     
  18. eric d

    eric d Member

    Sep 9, 1998

    Any order.
     
  19. Michael K.

    Michael K. Member

    Mar 3, 1999
    There or Thereabouts
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bradley didn't believe you last year, cause Walsh was only a stopgap starter when injuries tore through the Chicago lineup with all the delicacy of a neutron bomb. Otherwise he was a scrub.

    Name me the regular Metro starter last season who you'd drop in favor of Walsh.
     
  20. Sweeper

    Sweeper New Member

    Feb 11, 1999
    Jeff Moore may be a better defensive mid, and there are better defensive mids out there, but your honest, unbiased view on Walsh cant be that he's a bad footballer.

    He is a much better player then Petke, Chronopolous, Lisi, Ziadie.....He may not waltz through a defense but he doesnt relent on defense and doesnt make mistakes with the ball at his feet.
     
  21. eric d

    eric d Member

    Sep 9, 1998
    And the players you listed don't play the same position as Walsh (with the exception of Lisi and I keep him because he has potential- billy boy has none). What kind of comparison is that?
     
  22. Gamblor

    Gamblor New Member

    May 17, 1999
    I can't agree with this one. When Walsh played here he usually led the team in unforced turnovers in the middle of the field. It was a serious achilles heel for Walsh (in addition to his lack of speed). Sure, Walsh would then fight hard to try and win the ball back, but his give-aways were just way too frequent.
     
  23. eric d

    eric d Member

    Sep 9, 1998
    Are we talking about Own-Goal Walsh or some other Walsh I have never heard of?
     
  24. Bigfoot

    Bigfoot New Member

    If Jeff Moore is a better defensive midfielder THAN Walsh THEN there is no way Walsh is a much better player THAN any of those listed because Moore sure isn't.
     
  25. Haig

    Haig Member+

    May 14, 2000
    METROSTARS
    Club:
    --other--
    It's time to get past personalizing this.

    Walsh is a journeyman player. The best coaches the US has-- Arena, Bradley-- have seen enough to want a good look at him, then decided he wasn't good enough. Bradley refusing to take him in the waiver draft is a good sign that he's not a player that Bradley sees being in his starting 11 (we need a d-mid, don't we?) or even on his bench.

    If we're in a pinch, and we need a third-string defensive midfielder playing for a pittance until someone heals, we could do a lot worse than Billy Walsh. But no current MLS coaches see him as a starting 11 player, and there isn't anything else to be said on the matter.
     

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