Yeah, I agree with you about stunting the growth of the youngins. I guess I just hate to see a good player go to su*rs.
What's the point in bringing in Rosicky when we have Cesc Fabregas who is currently his equal and will be better over the next couple of years. If we are going to bring in some new midfielders let's bring in some real quality WIDE PLAYERS like SWP.
who is more over-hyped this past year? Shaun Wright-Phillips or Michael Essien? i mean, i think they are both pretty decent players, but not world class, IMO~ Adriano is a world class difference maker.. Nesta is a world class difference maker. I think if we have our exact same midfield and strikers, but sort out the backline and keeper, we win the league and the Champions League~ correction, we would need a different forward to partner Henry for the CL. Owen? Gilardino? Adriano? Defense (including keeper of course) must be the FIRST priority!
Yeah, Adriano and Nesta are world class differenc makers. But they are also out of our price range. Either one would likely cost more than what we are going to spend this summer, total. Its nice to think in terms of that quality of player, but the reality is that Arsenal is not able to bring in that quality of player, not in their prime.
normally i'd agree with this... but you never know... Owen cost 8 million quid in his PRIME.. Nesta is a pipe dream, i know that.. but we could spend a huge amount on one player this summer, i think it is going to happen~ of course, we can't compete with the Real Madrid's or Chelsea's (do chelsea have room for any more players?).. anyways, i suppose we would get outbid regardless for the bigtime "name" players~
I thought that since Cesc was so young, the ideal situation would be not to play them so much. I am a huge Cesc fan, but doesn't it seem like le boss might bring in another CM, especially as it seems as Edu is departing? Rosicky would be great and van Bommel scored a hat-trick today away to Ajax.
Owen was a special case. He had gone through prolonged contract negotiations with Liverpool and it came to the point where a new contract was not going to happen. But rather than play out his contract and leave for free, he vowed to allow Liverpool to get something in return. So while 8m and Antionio Nunez is not equal to Owens true value, it was more of a matter of LFC getting anything as opposed to nothing. While there are some absolutely top class players I'd love to see player for Arsenal, I would be rather learly of Wenger spending the vast majority of our summer fund on one player. Too much risk of putting all the eggs in one basket when the club really does have more than a singular need.
you do realize how much (reported) money he has to spend right??? he has enough for 3 SPECIAL players. not one singular need.. cmon papa, i see/read just as much stuff as everyone else.. this isn't new~
I know how much money there is supposed to be. And I agree that it should allow the club to bring in 3 or 4 quality players to address the needs. And that's exactly what I hope they do. I'd rather that than seeing 35m of the supposed 40m spent on one player Adriano, as good as Adriano is. Or 30+m for Nesta. Because the truly world class players are going to cost in that range. If we target top class players instead of world class, then we can afford a couple.
OUT-- LEHMANN -- 1M COLE --- 20M REYES --- 15M EDU --- FREE so you add up 36M plus the 30M+ transfer chest... sign that german left sided winger lamb? Chivu, Kameni, Hargreaves, Trabelsi, and Adriano~ there, my total rediculous fantasy football summer transfers.... lol im sure i left out better options, just trying to multi-task and not thinking properly.
Rosicky would be great and van Bommel scored a hat-trick today away to Ajax.[/QUOTE] ive heard that dortmund is going to be selling there top players concidering they are in debt. so i think rosicky would be a good addition good playmaker but from what ive seen defends rather well
Yeah, if you factor in what the club could bring in from players out, then there is more to play with. And being able to afford a WC player becomes more likely. Still don't know if they'll do it - it just doesn't seem Wenger's style.
Phishy~ We already have Hargreaves. When he plays for the Arsenal, he wears "Flamini" on his shirt. Van Bommel is in his prime and a proven player, maybe not a world-class difference-maker, but consistent. On your list, only Adriano is a proven world-class talent. I would have thought Chivu, but I don't know now. I agree with you that Essien might be hyped beyond his true value here, but SWP has proven himself in the Prem for two successive seasons. He's legit. How do you see Arsenal selling Ashley Cole for just £20 million? Were you being conservative for the sake of argument? (I don't think Arsenal will sell him at all.)
good shout on flamini/hargreaves! ya i was just understating the value just in case. so how bout a insane summer of SWP, Adriano, Chivu, and Kameni?
Van Bommel would get 34892348892342348923489 red cards if he played for Arsenal. He wouldn't get away with the crap he pulls off in PSV. And why get Rosicky when we're linked to Hleb from Stuttgart who is playing way better than Rosicky is.
i agree with chivu and wright but adriano wouldn't fit our style of football, plus arsene won't spend 30 mill on a player. and kameni sucks get off his dick.
lehmann is our number 1 and will continue to be so. cole and reyes aren't going anywhere this summer.
Van Bommel's father - in-law is not a ref but a manager, can't remember his name off the top of my head but he's pretty famous if I remember correctly, I think he's a manager in the Bundesliga
That's almost an endorsement. I hope you are right about that. I think Arsene would still have around £30 million available if he wanted to go all in with a purchase. Does anyone else interpret Arsene's quotes about not undermining what the youngsters have accomplished this season as meaning he won't bring in squad players to get in the way of those guys? I assume he's talking about Flamini, Fabregas, Senderos, and probably Van Persie also. We know the coaches rate Senderos highly, and that if it weren't for the broken foot, he would have seen even more time this season and last. So, no move for Kuffour or King (a problematic signing, besides). If Gilberto is fit again, there will be no ho-hum moves for center-mids. A "big-name" signing can't be ruled out, because Edu will probably leave, but no middle-of-the-road guys will be bought that would demand time that could go to Flamini or Cesc. So, Gerrard would be worth signing for Wenger, but not necessarily van Bommel or Hleb. (To be honest, I don't really know Hleb.) Lehman is still Wenger's number 1. Aside from that, money spent on a new goalkeeper wouldn't bring as much improvement in the defense as signing a star CB would, £ for £. I think sometimes Lehman gets a raw deal. He's not at fault for shipping so many goals on set pieces, and if Wenger counts Gilberto and Sol and Senderos as starters next season, he'll recognize that improvement through health may ease the pressure for a signing to shore up the defense. The argument has merrit and doing nothing is the cheapest solution. Lehman has been worse this season compared to last, but he was the best statistically in the EPL last year. He could easily get back to his best with a competent defense in front. Campbell, Senderos, Gilberto, and even Toure could be that defense. They have been before. Sure Essien is on the radar, but Wenger is only interested in guys like him if the price stays down. With Man. U. in for the same player, it may not. So now we are talking +£30 million that Wenger might spend on something other than CM, CB, and GK. He brought in Eboue in January and has given Hoyte time there. Trabelsi is a ship that has sailed. Wenger won't make a move for another RB. I think Wenger's sights are on attacking players. SWP would be a good fit, and he'll be expensive. Arsenal finally has the clams to snap him up, and he'll definitely move with Man. City carrying so much debt. Pennant is gone. There is no back-up for Freddie Ljungberg. Signing SWP would make FL8 the back-up on the right side and also allow him to play on the left more often. With the game FL8 has... right, left--it's all the same. Not unimportantly, freeing FL8 to play on the left would also provide effective attacking cover for Pires. So if Reyes then has to go, he wouldn't leave a hole on the left side in his wake. Signing SWP would address the right and the left of midfield. If SWP doesn't come in, that's a lot of money for a striker. Who fits the bill? Would any money be left over if he was bought? Should Owen be rescued from Real Madrid regardless of Reyes's movement? Signing SWP would make losing Reyes more palatable for Arsenal and Reyes going the other way is more attractive for RM than simply cash.
i guess a CB like huth from chelsea would be needed!. owen for reyes and SWP. u guys will be fine with these 3 singings.
I don't think were going after a striker this summer henry w/ anyone but JAR has produced i think we should play RVP with God the rest of this campaign and see how that goes. Maybe it was too early to be thinking straight but was that a ROBIN VAN PERSIE song i heard on saturday.
I really hate this 'buy on the cheap' / 'bargain' mentality. AW has really got into your brains too! Phishy is right, we need world class difference makers. And I think if AW wasn't such a hesitant and over cautious person that he is we should have done this ages ago! If Reyes leaves, I think Owen/Adriano should be at least targeted. One thing that really annoys me is that AW and most arsenal fans don't resent the fact that we are never in transfer battles. How is the club to show ambition if it doesn't go for the best occasionally? And this 'we don't need/ we can't afford 'x' mentality doesn't help either. What on earth happened to Sebastien Frey? He was linked to us almost all season long last season. He is a very very very good keeper imo. Buffon rated him second after Peter Cezch in a recent CL programme. And from what i have seen of him last season he's saved parma singlehandedly a few times. With regards to Essien, SWP, and Rosiscky neither of them are worth any where near 20mil. SWP I’d rate around 10-12, Essien 8 at most, and Rosiscky (the Czech Rep player?) is not an arsenal player imo.