Look at the fifa standings. http://fifa.com/es/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,All-Feb-2005,00.html Mexico is number 6; the US doesn't even land in the top ten. WE ARE BETTER THAN YOU
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/050310/1/396z.html That may be the most ill-informed story I've ever seen on fifaworldcup.com
I've been trying to find the aggregate of all USA vs Mexico matches since around 2000 which is pretty lopsided but haven't been successful.. Someone had posted it going back even a few years before 2000 and it was also lopsided for the USA.. Anyone got it?
Agreed. It is awful. Reads way too much into both friendlies. Fails to note that Colombia's team was an under-20 side while stressing that the one Mexico tied was a B team. Assumes that "madman" Clint Mathis has cemented a starting role in Mex City, based on his getting credited with a goal on a corner the Colombian goalie turned into his own net. And reads WAY too much into the results of those two games. "US takes pole position?" Hardly. It's all just practice. I like the way we look so far in practice, but waaaay to early to judge anything.
Colombia -- not Columbia. Sorry to nitpick but it is a big peeve of mine. I hope that this ends up being a boring 0 -0 affair. EDIT --Hey didn't Mexico play them as well before USA did?
I did post that, but can't find it now. Actually, in matches that count, of which there have been roughly 7 in the past 10 years, the USA and Mexico are dead even. I'm doing this from memory, so forgive me if I miss one: Copa America '95: USA over Mexico on PKs. WCQ '97: Two ties Gold Cup '98: Mexico wins Confed Cup '99: Mexico wins WCQ '01: Each team wins at home WC '02: USA wins Each team has 3 victories, 3 defeats and two ties. Sachin
Yes Mexico played a similar, 10-12 player overlap, Colombia team. I wonder how that turned out for Mexico?
Sorry if I'm late to the party and this has been addressed, but do the players themselves want the coach replaced or kept? I agree with the first sentence and believes it applies equally to the US. Both teams qualify regardless of this match, barring an off-the-field human catastrophe. It doesn't mean I don't view this as the biggest game of 2005 for us.
Dont you love it when people talk out of their ass. I find it sad your actually gonna brag about beating a sub20 Brazilian team at Copa Confed at the Aztec. I MEAN WOWOWOW . Please tell me when you have actually beaten a Full Squad of Brazilians or Argentinians cause I doubt they would ever use a full squad for anything except the World Cup. So your statement that Mexico has beaten the best when it matters is completely FLAWED. Lets also be honest, this Copa America,Confed,Copa nobodygives cares are just to give some reserves PT in order to get more depth. If your gonna brag about beating reserved teams then you to come back to reality pal. As for the FIFA standings, they are a JOKE. If your actually gonna believe those are the real top 10 in the world then you must be 12yrs old.
More info, for the record (though some of it will feed soccerdude's delusions). Regarding the Gold Cup, the US has won 2 times, Mexico 4 times, Canada 1 time. Regarding the Copa America, the US has only participated two times, in '93 and '95. We made it to the semifinals in '95, and haven't played in it since then. Since then, we have been invited a number of times but turned it down every time.
What does winning have to do with liking a team? (Unless you're a typical non-new yorker yankees fan) i personally find that logic very telling about the mindset of our near-troll.
I'm a proud American. That's reason enough to love my team. Even if they were the worst team on the face of the earth, I would just "like" them. I'd love them. It's called "patriotism", Bro. Either your memory is pretty short or you are very ignorant about US Soccer. US has won Gold Cup. Twice. US has beat Argentina. Twice (including in Copa America. The other game I I was there. I saw it.) US has beaten Brazil. Once. So, my friend, maybe you want to do some research before you start talking about things that you either forgot or never bothered to learn. You will have a lot more credibility and won't look so foolish that way. Do your homework. Know your rival.
I could care less if Mexico or its supporters respect the USMNT. What difference does it make? The game is won on the field. Not in the press. Not in the stands. Not in the bar. The scoreboard does the only talking that really matters. I would actually prefer that they underestimate us. It just makes any victories all the sweeter.
Some numbers, because I find this kind of thing infinitely more interesting than working: In the past ten years (since 4/95), the US and Mexico have played 17 times. The US has won 8, Mexico won 4, and there were 3 draws. (Note: I'm counting as a draw the Copa America PK win in 1995--otherwise it would be US 9, Mex 4, draw 2). In those games, the US scored 21 goals and Mex 10; a +11 GD in favor of the US. In the past five years (since 4/00), the US and Mexico have played 8 times. The US has won 6 of those games, Mexico 1, and there's been a draw. In those games, the US has scored 11 goals to Mexico's 1; a +10 GD in favor of the US. To be fair, Mexico does tend to step up in the big games. If you look at the games that counted, as Sachin showed, there's more parity. Still, a 6-1-1 record with 11-1 GD in the past five years is a fairly dominant performance. The Mexies can have their glorious past; I'll take the USA's overpowering present.
How the tides of time have changed. Never knew we were this dominant against Mexico. Offcourse that one win for them has come in the Azteca . Regardless , our talent is getting much better (and faster) than any CONCACAF team in the past 10yrs. USA fosho