As Arthur Fonzarelli would say, "Whoa - Exactimundo - Aaayyyyy!" I love that name. A couple of seasons ago I caught a PSV-Liverpool(?) UEFA semi-final(?) where, late in the match, Vennegor of Hesselink got nailed just as he was shooting and scored the goal anyway. He went down for a few moments and there was silence and then he popped up in this regal pose, pefectly fitting the name "Vennegor of Hesselink".
I love the name Vennegor of Hesselink too. It sounds especially cool in English. But you guys should keep in mind that the 'of' doesn't mean the same as in english. I can't give you agood explanation of what it actually means but I remember having a discussion with a dutch person about it. It isn't the same as DaMarcus Beasley of Chicago. Still a cool name though. And he's a good player to boot.
I usually visit the PSV's English Language site http://english.psv.nl/ In the Dutch section http://www.psv.nl/ Beasley will occasionally be interviewed in their video feaures. I also have the <<Voetebalclips>> site bookmarked http://voetbalclips.50megs.com/ In short. I folllow the player more than the league Omigod. I think I'm starting to understand some Dutch, too Guus Hiddink: 'Discipline was goed'
you may want to take into account the fact that these are simply informal nicknames for Portsmouth Football Club and Fulham Football Club, respectively. now, if there were such a thing as Columbus Football Club, and folks just referred to them as 'the crew', or a Kansas City Soccer Club that fans informally called 'the wizards', that would be one thing. but these organizations are officially titled Columbus Crew and Kansas City Wizards. throw in their moronic logos, and they deserve all the criticism they get. seriously, you can criticize the folks in dallas for a myriad of things; but being sufficiently embarrassed by by their old name and logo to eliminate them both isn't one of them. oh yeah, the thread. no real affection for PSV, but wishing them and damarcus all the best while he's there.
Your so right. Next thing there will be emberassing organizations named something like Chicago Cubs or New York Yankees or New England Patriots. How emberassing would that be???
not terribly, by my account. now, were they to be called the Chicago Crew, New York Wiz, or New England Burn, i suspect there might be some folks out there laughing at them, as well. look, i realize it's all subjective. if columbus and their fans like that name and logo, fine. but we all know that most of the original MLS names, logos, strips, etc., came not from the clubs, themselves, but from some marketing agency* in a misguided effort to create some form of artificial appeal. by most accounts, it was an embarrassing failure. sufficient evidence thereof lies in the number of names and logos that have been abandoned in the league's first 10 years. regardless, i rather doubt that the fact that portsmouth and fulham are informally called 'pompey' and 'cottagers' will prevent many observers from continuing to shake their heads at MLS's initial marketing fiasco. *ok, actually i don't know that for a fact. i want to say that i read it somewhere. if such is not, in fact, the case, my apologies; but it is my understanding.
I want to live longer enough to see a Major League franchise, in any sport named....drumroll, cymbal crash.... THE GRAFTON CORRUPTION!!!!!!!!!! UNDER THE TABLE! Clap-Clap Clap-Clap-Clap UNDER THE TABLE! Clap-Clap Clap-Clap-Clap
You have got to be kidding me. Pompey is famous for his ridiculous haircut and for getting his ass kicked by his rival, so I guess that one makes sense, but a "cottager" is someone who seeks out sex in public toilets. That Fulham fans continue to use the name is a source of great amusement and no small amount of speculation about their leisure activities. It doesn't make a damn bit of difference to me whether the clubs or the fans picked such stupid names. The fact that you would draw a distinction leaves me at a loss for words. Except for "moron"... and "hypocrite". I guess I'm not at a loss for words after all. As for Dallas, I'm sorry you missed the memo, but europosing in any shape or form is completely retarded. Whatever junior ad exec thought sticking an FC in front made it somehow more legitimate needs a seriously malicious kick in the sack. In the first place, "Football Club Dallas" has the words in the wrong damn order. In the second place, F*C* Dallas doesn't play football. The Dallas Cowboys play football. F*C* Dallas plays soccer. And before you start, "S*C* Dallas" is at least as retarded as "F*C* Dallas", maybe more. Like the team, the mascot in the new F*C* Dallas logo has no balls, so I guess I'll concede that it's an improvement in accuracy, if that's where you were going with that line of thought. On the other hand, English teams almost universally have crap logos, so I'm not sure why you brought up logos. They may be traditional, but so are bad teeth, voting Tory, and oppressing the Irish. That doesn't make any of them good.
hmmm. yes, pompey's hair really does appear out of sorts by the standards of two millennia later. i guess most MLS names aren't stupid, after all.
You're off by half a century, but my point was that it appeared out of sorts by the standards of his time, not ours. His hair looked ridiculous to his contemporaries because he wore his hair that way to try and look like Alexander the Great and it really didn't suit him at all. Don't they teach kids anything these days? You see, it's particularly appropriate because he was trying to look like something he was not.