here are some of the teams hajduk has played in the last 2 years: schalke, villareal, dinamo zagreb (many times), Gent, vitoria sc, shaktar donetsk, auxerre, tabzonspor....please dont force me to explain to you how beneficial such comp is compared to being in MLS...... not to mention...the country as a whole has been dominant in world cups and euro cups lately.....it a hotbed of talent additionally, this league is heavily scouted by the very top leagues....rokas pukstas was recently linked with the likes of liverpool.....for example. top clubs WILL BUY from this league without hesitation. beyond that, for the player pool as a whole, this type of move is amazing, it opens another spot for a young american to come through the ranks.... EVERY single move like this should be welcomed and celebrated by the fanbase.....instead of taken as a chance to hold yet another pointless and misguided referendum on MLS the number of americans in MLs will never fluctuate...its dictated by roster rules. however, the number of americans abroad is potentially gigantic.....so....clearly we should hope for the maximum possible amount instead of turning it into a chance to brag about how MLS isnt that bad lol this isnt a step down...its step up!
You don't understand because you don't listen to what people actually say. To use your words, that says a lot about you and all the other MLS like you.
Nobody is saying to ignore the opponents you list. We’re just not asking you and your ilk not to ignore all the shitty teams they also play.
I, too, dont understand how you can have such a strong opinion about a thing you say you don’t know about. This is an old essay about how no, you’re not entitled to your own opinion. You’re only entitled to what you can make an argument for. https://theconversation.com/no-youre-not-entitled-to-your-opinion-9978 You basically brag about not following the league, which is another way of saying you feel entitled to a self-professed ignorant argument. You’re not. Bring facts, or it’s just group therapy.
@Clint Eastwood , it looks like we have an MLS talking shit about something he knows nothing about. Here is your chance to set him straight.
Hadjuk Split has a much better track record with American players than MLS and yet MLS fans make fun of them. Yurp has produced much more Americans for the USMNT than MLS and MLS has ruined more American players than any league.
I know it wasn’t you, but there was a post on the last page listing players, but not counting McKennie or Reyna, who were signed from MLS academies. Go back to that list and count those guys and Richards and the rest, and you will see that you can’t make an argument for this assertion. You can check my math, but I counted 20 names and 11 with an MLS influence. And that list didn’t have any backup keepers despite being so long, and the backups are MLSers, so it’s skewed and still refutes your point.
I think now is a good time to come back to this. So Liga MX follows MLS lead, gets rid of pro/rel, makes money for corrupt owners, and the Mexican National becomes the worst it has been in over 50 years. The other league with some striking similarities to MLS is the EPL. We all know that did wonders for the English players and needed the FA to step in to make changes. Hmmm..... I wonder why American soccer fans don't like MLS. It is almost as if a closed system, bringing in tons of foreigners, and focusing on marketing isn't good for local player development.
You guys are talking shit about a club you know nothing about. Well if I were a 20 yo soccer player, I would much rather be rapidly growing my game and attracting attention from big clubs in Europe playing in Croatia over getting a loan from Philly to Austin to never play.
So your suggestion is to have academies but not a league. That’s kind of what I thought earlier, as unbelievable as such a suggestion is. Who is going to pay for academies if there’s no league?
So that’s a “no, I can’t back that up with evidence.” OK then. If you aren’t on a discussion board to discuss, then you’re just a Guys, shouldn’t we all just put him on ignore?
I disagree. This was actually a half decent post from this poster. This poster does bring up good points and has decent posts from time to time. I don't agree with a lot of them, but we shouldn't discount everything either. Posts/responses like yours here, don't move the discussion forward or add anything to it. Moreover these types of replies just pour more gasoline on their fire. Better to ignore and/or post something with substance. Then why do you constantly use vague and broad sweeping generalities in all of your posts? Add in some data (possibly name a few players that moved from a club to another.....) otherwise you're no better than those who you are picking nits with. Try putting together ONE well thought out, reasoned post with data/examples to back up your points, and I think you'll find folks to be more receptive to your ideas. Of course I realize you are way too busy for this.
I have consistently used data to back up my responses to Adam Tash. I must have done it 100x He doesn't give a crap. He has just decided that everything a American is crap and everything European is great. He's a complete joke.
Hajduk is one of the bigger clubs in Eastern Europe. They have a track record of selling players to other clubs. In fact their fourth highest transfer ever was for Stipe Biuk when LAFC paid €6.5M for the player. They've also helped to produce: Luka Vuskovic, Nikola Kalinic, Mario Vuskovic, etc.
Thank you for an actual answer. I was sincere when I said could someone explain this move to me. And yes, to me it seemed a step down, that he couldn't get playing time at Dallas but that's only my opinion. I'm happy I could be wrong about it. I was guessing it was a step down, thus I'm happy to be wrong. I never said or implied it was factually a step down.
If I were a young goalkeeper and had the choice, I might well choose MLS. It's a league that has shown a willingness to play young keepers. I would be cautious about going to a big European club in one of the big leagues. We have had nearly no success in those situations. CJ Santos, Alex Borto, Chturu Odunze, CJ Dos Santos. It's a black hole for American keepers. Top teams in lesser leagues, I can at least see some success stories.
PSV is zeer gecharmeerd van Caleb Wiley🇺🇸🚨De 19 jarige linksback komt uit voor Atlanta United. Earnie Stewart kent hem nog van zijn tijd bij de USMNT. Hij geldt als een van de mogelijke opties op de linksback positie. pic.twitter.com/7Qu0TMmqDR— Transferfriday (@transferfridays) May 26, 2024
Some players will choose to explore options in Europe at an early stage on their career. Others well choose to stay in MLS and then move to Europe. It seems like both options are perfectly valid. There are advantages and disadvantages to each. I've said before that if I was in my late teens and had the opportunity to experience a different culture I might take it. If I was in my mid-twenties and was starting a family I may wish to stay in the states, or at least demand some guarantees before moving. If you have a chance to join one of top clubs in the world and become the next Pulisic, Reyna or Scally then go for it. Haji Wright turned down the chance of signing a home-grown contract to move to Schalke, which seemed like a big club all the way back in 2016. He got shuttled around, played in different leagues in different countries and it's taken him 8 years to settle down in the English second division. Would he have been better of staying at the Galaxy? Who knows? Though he probably would have played in a lot "B" internationals. Keaton Parks went to Portugal at the same age, made his way to Benfica, didn't quite make the grade but is now thriving at NYC, with a big contact renewal making almost 7 figures. Tajon Buchanan chose college, was drafted by New England, played 50 games games for them, moved to Belgium at 22 and is now playing in Serie A for Inter. Jack Harrison was rejected by Man City, then left Manchester United because his mom felt he had a better chance of becoming a professional in the States. He learned his football playing alongside Frank Lampard at Yankee Stadium and has earned his place in the Premier League. Jack McGlynn signed a home grown contract in MLS, has been outstanding and is now getting interest from the Premier League and Bundesliga. I think quite of few of the MLS youngsters in the U23s will get offers after The Olympics. My point there are lots of different options and unless you are a potential Bundesliga or Premier League starter at 18 the route you take doesn't really seem to matter. Most of the American stars of the 00s who had success on the top leagues went to college and didn't even start their professional careers until they were 22. I think learning to play professional soccer at one of the MLS clubs that's invested heavily in world-class facilities and has European trained coaches, probably has advantages over starting at a career at a small European club that trains at a school playing field but being in Europe has other advantages. Adam Tash's knee-jerk droning that playing anywhere in Europe is infinitely superior to playing in MLS isn't borne out by any experience or statistics. He's just become an anti-MLS troll. He just pisses me off. He won't see this because he's blocked me as I've responded to so much of his bs with facts, stats and evidence. Split is a beautiful city in a beautiful part of Europe. Hadjuk are one of the 3 big Croatian clubs who compete regularly in UEFA competitions. They produce a lot of good players. A player can do just as well there as they can do in any secondary European league and probably better than they'll do if they go to a massive club and end up on perma-loan.